Once a Thief always a Thief...is this true ?

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

Ya you said like jesus that who among us never did any mistake.
Hats off. Tusi great ho. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

we people are the biggest chors ;) :evil: :evil:

No it is not true once a thief is not always thief. It depends upon situation. In many cases situation makes them thief. Again situation can make them good.

Yes that is true...There have been many films which show how a person is forced into criminal activities and had they been givena chance to reform they probably would have...

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

Charles Shobhraj was a hardened international criminal. There is no question of reform for such people. They are jail birds. For many criminals, jail is just a resting place after a few months hard work outside.
Practically, small criminals turn bigger ones in company of more experienced in jail. There are very few who are reformed.

quote = Devyani Sarkar You can give them a chance but cannot rely them blindly. I agree that "Once a thief is always a thief". If you will give him a chance, he will steal.

No this is not true. He can live a better life if somebody give a chance. We are human beings. Human beings made mistakes in some times. But after realizing the mistake the won't do that again. :) :) :)

@ Devyani,I feel that reaction is a bit strong and unfair....For all you know it may be the persons first crime and the circumstances too need to be taken into consideration..

I agree Mary that it is always better to make them realise their mistake and since they have already been punished they should be given a chance to come up in life..

I have not written any other thing. My meaning was the same as you have mentioned above. Still I would suggest that it is better not to believe them blindly. Nobody can judge human's mind in this age

quote = Devyani Sarkar You can give them a chance but cannot rely them blindly. I agree that "Once a thief is always a thief". If you will give him a chance, he will steal.

No this is not true. He can live a better life if somebody give a chance. We are human beings. Human beings made mistakes in some times. But after realizing the mistake the won't do that again. :) :) :)

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@ Devyani,I feel that reaction is a bit strong and unfair....For all you know it may be the persons first crime and the circumstances too need to be taken into consideration..

I agree Mary that it is always better to make them realise their mistake and since they have already been punished they should be given a chance to come up in life..

I have not written any other thing. My meaning was the same but I nobody can judge human's mind in this age. It is better not to believe them blindly.

We need to differentiate between first time young criminals and the old hardened criminals for whom jail is second home. Those who can be reformed should be given opportunity but with precaution.

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

Charles Shobhraj was a hardened international criminal. There is no question of reform for such people. They are jail birds. For many criminals, jail is just a resting place after a few months hard work outside.
Practically, small criminals turn bigger ones in company of more experienced in jail. There are very few who are reformed.

Of course Charles Sobhraj became one of the most dreaded criminals.But he started his criminal activities when he was apparently only 8 years old - the charge was for drug peddling and stealing and was sentenced in a Thai prison.Suppose he were rehabilitated at that period of time, he might have turned different...

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

Charles Shobhraj was a hardened international criminal. There is no question of reform for such people. They are jail birds. For many criminals, jail is just a resting place after a few months hard work outside.
Practically, small criminals turn bigger ones in company of more experienced in jail. There are very few who are reformed.

Yes, I also agree with with fact that we can't justify criminals like Shobharaj.
It's true, it's difficult to reform big thieves. But what about small thieves....? Actually, society plays an important role in converting small thieves to big criminals. What is society? A group of society including 'me'. So, I can't put full blame on society. I also form a link of this chain.
Let me tell one thing more....it's told, certain genes are present in the blood of criminals, prompting them to do these things. Is it true? If so, do situations play a role in making them criminals? Can they be corrected? Many people are born in bad conditions/surroundings/situations etc in this world. But are all of them becoming criminals? Not at all. Can we 100% assure, a child born in good family won't become a criminal. Last week I read about a boy of 18 years from Pune, who kidnapped a child for money and later killed him. What does it mean? :blink:

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

Charles Shobhraj was a hardened international criminal. There is no question of reform for such people. They are jail birds. For many criminals, jail is just a resting place after a few months hard work outside.
Practically, small criminals turn bigger ones in company of more experienced in jail. There are very few who are reformed.

Of course Charles Sobhraj became one of the most dreaded criminals.But he stated his criminal activities when he was apparently only 8 years old - the charge was for drug peddling and stealing and was sentenced in a Thai prison.Suppose he wee rehabilitated at that period of time, he might have turned different...

Yes, I agree situation often change small thieves to criminal. Yet, as a citizen, everyone has a duty to the nation. Live and let live. So, he can't justify himself by putting full blame on the society he lives. What's the difference between men and animals? His common sense to differentiate between good and evil. He choose the wrong path. It's easy to travel through wrong paths, but very difficult through a single right path.

A thief becomes thief only if he is caught. By this way, how many thieves are living among us!!!
I always believe in giving another opportunity to a person, if he believe so. Faults and mistakes.....everyone can commit. It doesn't mean, he should be punished for ever, whole through his life, particularly if his mistakes are small.
Everyone in this earth has right to correct his mistakes.
But I have to tell onething, it's not easy to win a lost belief once again!!!

It is always the small time criminals, the petty thieves that get caught and have to pay the price probably for the bigger thieves too...I was reading a book on Charles Sobhraj who was a drug peddler and also a murderer - the kind of background and childhood he had made him what he was, and he was never ever given a chance...

Charles Shobhraj was a hardened international criminal. There is no question of reform for such people. They are jail birds. For many criminals, jail is just a resting place after a few months hard work outside.
Practically, small criminals turn bigger ones in company of more experienced in jail. There are very few who are reformed.

Yes, I also agree with with fact that we can't justify criminals like Shobharaj.
It's true, it's difficult to reform big thieves. But what about small thieves....? Actually, society plays an important role in converting small thieves to big criminals. What is society? A group of society including 'me'. So, I can't put full blame on society. I also form a link of this chain.
Let me tell one thing more....it's told, certain genes are present in the blood of criminals, prompting them to do these things. Is it true? If so, do situations play a role in making them criminals? Can they be corrected? Many people are born in bad conditions/surroundings/situations etc in this world. But are all of them becoming criminals? Not at all. Can we 100% assure, a child born in good family won't become a criminal. Last week I read about a boy of 18 years from Pune, who kidnapped a child for money and later killed him. What does it mean? :blink:

Hereditary may account for a fraction but it is mostly other factors including environment, bad company and financial constraints that drives a person to crime.When that happens putting that person in favorable circumstances is bound to give at least some positive results.And most criminals start young so it becomes the duty of those around them ( parents, governmental agencies etc ) to make them realise their mistake and take up a more responsible role as citizens..

1 year back, I saw a movie...can't remember its name right name. Moral story behind that movie was "Kill crime, not criminals!". It's a nice message. But I can't remember the movie name. I think it's a Bollywood movie.

This is fact once a thief always a thief.Even though the person had got the punishment for the crime he will always be seen suspiciouly by the society.This is not good actually people should give that a person a chance to start his/her life again.But then it depends on the crime the person has done. :blink:

If a person commit a heinous crime like murder or a kidnap for the very first time then of course there is no hope for such people.But when it is a small , minor crime committed because of the circumstances then one should make some allowances and give him a chance...Like Sandhya said the idea is to kill crime and not the criminals and their reputation which may be even worse..

If a person commit a heinous crime like murder or a kidnap for the very first time then of course there is no hope for such people.But when it is a small , minor crime committed because of the circumstances then one should make some allowances and give him a chance...Like Sandhya said the idea is to kill crime and not the criminals and their reputation which may be even worse..

Exactly! for some minor issues they should not be seen suspisciously may be its the circumstances due to which he/she may have done this crime. :blink:

In a country where a poor man steals for bread, he is treated as a thief where, politicians and ministers who steal money from country's treasury are given great respect and reputation. Why this double standard? I feel politicians are no.1 criminals of the country. Even the poor people are paying tax for purchasing something. Money collected in this matter goes to politicians' pockets in one way or another. Yet, our country is always starving!!!!!!! So, who are the real thieves?

In a country where a poor man steals for bread, he is treated as a thief where, politicians and ministers who steal money from country's treasury are given great respect and reputation. Why this double standard? I feel politicians are no.1 criminals of the country. Even the poor people are paying tax for purchasing something. Money collected in this matter goes to politicians' pockets in one way or another. Yet, our country is always starving!!!!!!! So, who are the real thieves?

Yes Politicians are the most corrupted people in India but they still are given respect by we people I don't know why law becomes unlawful for those who steal bread when they have no money to buy food for their family and themselves. May be if Lokpal Bill has been implemented then there would have been some improvements. :blink:

It might not be easy for others to trust those who have been jailed for any crimes. But completely shunning them would only turn them into a hardened criminals. As many of you have already mentioned we need to consider under what circumstances the crimes were committed. If they are repentant of their actions, chances should certainly be given to them to come back to the straight path.

In a country where a poor man steals for bread, he is treated as a thief where, politicians and ministers who steal money from country's treasury are given great respect and reputation. Why this double standard? I feel politicians are no.1 criminals of the country. Even the poor people are paying tax for purchasing something. Money collected in this matter goes to politicians' pockets in one way or another. Yet, our country is always starving!!!!!!! So, who are the real thieves?

Let us collect data as to how many are in jail for stealing bread, biscuits etc only. Most of the criminals are in jail for big offences. Jail terms are based on severity of crimes. It is no use making sweeping statements like these though this may attract readers.

The bandits and big thieves get bigger jail sentence. These days, we do not have many 'uthaigeers' or petty thieves. The thieves have their own intelligence system. They gather information regarding cash and valuables before entering a house for theft. The thieves never attempt to enter a house where they know they will get no valuables and cash. In today's actual circumstances, it is meaningless to talk of bread thieves.

In a country where a poor man steals for bread, he is treated as a thief where, politicians and ministers who steal money from country's treasury are given great respect and reputation. Why this double standard? I feel politicians are no.1 criminals of the country. Even the poor people are paying tax for purchasing something. Money collected in this matter goes to politicians' pockets in one way or another. Yet, our country is always starving!!!!!!! So, who are the real thieves?

Let us collect data as to how many are in jail for stealing bread, biscuits etc only. Most of the criminals are in jail for big offences. Jail terms are based on severity of crimes. It is no use making sweeping statements like these though this may attract readers.

The bandits and big thieves get bigger jail sentence. These days, we do not have many 'uthaigeers' or petty thieves. The thieves have their own intelligence system. They gather information regarding cash and valuables before entering a house for theft. The thieves never attempt to enter a house where they know they will get no valuables and cash. In today's actual circumstances, it is meaningless to talk of bread thieves.

Yes, I agree, today is the era of high tech thieves than before. Modern technologies used and most of all, cyber crimes. :evil: Yet can't deny the fact that still people are there who steals for just filling stomach.

In a country where a poor man steals for bread, he is treated as a thief where, politicians and ministers who steal money from country's treasury are given great respect and reputation. Why this double standard? I feel politicians are no.1 criminals of the country. Even the poor people are paying tax for purchasing something. Money collected in this matter goes to politicians' pockets in one way or another. Yet, our country is always starving!!!!!!! So, who are the real thieves?

Let us collect data as to how many are in jail for stealing bread, biscuits etc only. Most of the criminals are in jail for big offences. Jail terms are based on severity of crimes. It is no use making sweeping statements like these though this may attract readers.

The bandits and big thieves get bigger jail sentence. These days, we do not have many 'uthaigeers' or petty thieves. The thieves have their own intelligence system. They gather information regarding cash and valuables before entering a house for theft. The thieves never attempt to enter a house where they know they will get no valuables and cash. In today's actual circumstances, it is meaningless to talk of bread thieves.

Yes, I agree, today is the era of high tech thieves than before. Modern technologies used and most of all, cyber crimes. :evil: Yet can't deny the fact that still people are there who steals for just filling stomach.

Actually theft is also an employment. all economic activities- legal or legal are for physical needs only- hunger or luxury. The thieves in most cases choose this job. There are very less circumstantial thefts like stealing bread. This could be in England. Indians do not eat bread. They eat roti (chapati) and rice. For such petty things, people do not steal but turn beggars and queue before temples or Gurudwaras (Sikh temples).