Hello Friends, back with another topic and hope it will be a super hit!
This week's question is inspired by a movie I saw yesterday 'The Mothman Prophecies' supposed to be based on a true incident, and also on series of 'X-Files'
For those who don't know these movies, a short update, these are based on experiences of some people who claim they have seen otherworldly creatures with supernatural powers, something like a ghost or a spirit.
So the question is,
Do supernatural beings exist? If so where do you think they come from?
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First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life, yet. So we dont have scientific reason for these things except considering it as superstitious things.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life, yet. So we dont have scientific reason for these things except considering it as superstitious things.
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
Sanjeev, No one really said a child to follow his/her parents teachings or principles after birth. So it lies entirely on our thoughts. Some parent even dont teach their children that god exists. then in such condition what will they do?
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
Sanjeev, No one really said a child to follow his/her parents teachings or principles after birth. So it lies entirely on our thoughts. Some parent even dont teach their children that god exists. then in such condition what will they do?
Rajani, those who are atheist don't teach their children that God exists but when they grow up and see majority of people believe on God they think and do what they like at that stage.But people who believe on God always teach their kids to believe on God and still it depends on them what they do when they grow up. :)
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
Sanjeev, No one really said a child to follow his/her parents teachings or principles after birth. So it lies entirely on our thoughts. Some parent even dont teach their children that god exists. then in such condition what will they do?
Rajani, those who are atheist don't teach their children that God exists but when they grow up and see majority of people believe on God they think and do what they like at that stage.But people who believe on God always teach their kids to believe on God and still it depends on them what they do when they grow up. :)
Ya your right , even my parents beleive in God and they also though me to believe in God but sometimes after we grow, our own thoughts come into existence and we start exploring many things, like that some may know what their parents dont know. But however I understood your point, that evil things are less discussed by parents, inorder to avoid fear.
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
Sanjeev, No one really said a child to follow his/her parents teachings or principles after birth. So it lies entirely on our thoughts. Some parent even dont teach their children that god exists. then in such condition what will they do?
Rajani, those who are atheist don't teach their children that God exists but when they grow up and see majority of people believe on God they think and do what they like at that stage.But people who believe on God always teach their kids to believe on God and still it depends on them what they do when they grow up. :)
Ya your right , even my parents beleive in God and they also though me to believe in God but sometimes after we grow, our own thoughts come into existence and we start exploring many things, like that some may know what their parents dont know. But however I understood your point, that evil things are less discussed by parents, inorder to avoid fear.
People with independent thoughts are few. Most are just sheep with herd mentality. That is why a person born in Hindu, Muslim or christian family will mechanically and blindly follow what has been preached. This is just brain washing. There is no need to discuss with brain washed as they have no independent views.
However even if you have thoughts independent of what you have learned in your community, the thoughts and perceptions as received from forefathers remain in subconscious mind. These affect behavior.
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life.
We believe on God because our parents told us to believe on Him. :) :whistle: I don't believe on other super natural powers because they never told me to do so. :laugh:
Sanjeev, No one really said a child to follow his/her parents teachings or principles after birth. So it lies entirely on our thoughts. Some parent even dont teach their children that god exists. then in such condition what will they do?
Rajani, those who are atheist don't teach their children that God exists but when they grow up and see majority of people believe on God they think and do what they like at that stage.But people who believe on God always teach their kids to believe on God and still it depends on them what they do when they grow up. :)
Ya your right , even my parents beleive in God and they also though me to believe in God but sometimes after we grow, our own thoughts come into existence and we start exploring many things, like that some may know what their parents dont know. But however I understood your point, that evil things are less discussed by parents, inorder to avoid fear.
People with independent thoughts are few. Most are just sheep with herd mentality. That is why a person born in Hindu, Muslim or christian family will mechanically and blindly follow what has been preached. This is just brain washing. There is no need to discuss with brain washed as they have no independent views.
However even if you have thoughts independent of what you have learned in your community, the thoughts and perceptions as received from forefathers remain in subconscious mind. These affect behavior.
I partially agree with you as my parents are pure theist and they go to temples and keep fasts on special occassions but still i am not like them and seldom go to temples. :evil:
But thats true people are brain washed often and are supposed to follow what their parents and forefathers did. :)
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life, yet. So we dont have scientific reason for these things except considering it as superstitious things.
Nothing is supernatural as such. Nature includes everything in universe. In fact, human capability is limited. Everything is not in our knowledge. So what appears supernatural at a particular time becomes natural later when human knowledge increases. Possibly, what we consider supernatural or mysterious today, may be unfolded a few centuries after. However, the entire universe is unfathomable and there will always be mysteries. But these are because of limitation of human race.
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life, yet. So we dont have scientific reason for these things except considering it as superstitious things.
Nothing is supernatural as such. Nature includes everything in universe. In fact, human capability is limited. Everything is not in our knowledge. So what appears supernatural at a particular time becomes natural later when human knowledge increases. Possibly, what we consider supernatural or mysterious today, may be unfolded a few centuries after. However, the entire universe is unfathomable and there will always be mysteries. But these are because of limitation of human race.
That's right there are things which we human beings cannot feel/sense.Consider an example of a dog which can hear the ultrasounds too which are inaudible for the humans. :)
Similarly there must be other things too which we may have not seen or we cannot see but they may exist.It may take time for us to explore them and say that yes these exist till then people can't say it firmly if they exist or not. :)
First of all we should understand that supernatural itself means that something which is beyond the reach of nature or doesnt exist physically. So we can only feel it or view it through our so called hidden senses.
If we believe the existence of god who is not viewable, there must be supernatural things too. Scientist havent found the real reason for death and the life, yet. So we dont have scientific reason for these things except considering it as superstitious things.
Nothing is supernatural as such. Nature includes everything in universe. In fact, human capability is limited. Everything is not in our knowledge. So what appears supernatural at a particular time becomes natural later when human knowledge increases. Possibly, what we consider supernatural or mysterious today, may be unfolded a few centuries after. However, the entire universe is unfathomable and there will always be mysteries. But these are because of limitation of human race.
That's right there are things which we human beings cannot feel/sense.Consider an example of a dog which can hear the ultrasounds too which are inaudible for the humans. :)
Similarly there must be other things too which we may have not seen or we cannot see but they may exist.It may take time for us to explore them and say that yes these exist till then people can't say it firmly if they exist or not. :)
Yes, gulshan ji what you said is right and some people have unique capability to see things that are generally not see by naked eye(maybe sixth sense)
Sometime even I could see some future incidents, it happened to me with my grandfather, when he died I got a dream on the previous day, that he is lying on the floor, with white cloth covered on his body. :(
Thanks Kalyani for bringing up this interesting topic. Perhaps this subject is never going to cease to tickle our imagination! Why years not even any number of centuries is going to resolve this existential question. I wonder if we can club strange happenings with supernatural phenomena. What I have observed most of these stuff are gathered from secondary sources. While rationalists would always negate the existence of any such agency but in life I know many persons with higher education in science to be subscribing to such beliefs. I know many who in their youth pooh-pooh any such belief to convert themselves as believers in the mid-stream! At the personal level I was witness to a few events which are at all explicable to me till now!
Thanks Kalyani for bringing up this interesting topic. Perhaps this subject is never going to cease to tickle our imagination! Why years not even any number of centuries is going to resolve this existential question. I wonder if we can club strange happenings with supernatural phenomena. What I have observed most of these stuff are gathered from secondary sources. While rationalists would always negate the existence of any such agency but in life I know many persons with higher education in science to be subscribing to such beliefs. I know many who in their youth pooh-pooh any such belief to convert themselves as believers in the mid-stream! At the personal level I was witness to a few events which are at all explicable to me till now!
The rationalists and scientists also are not absolutely free from thoughts of ghosts and supernatural or meta physical existence. Many things are mysterious. Even the most rational person has many irrational beliefs in his subconscious mind. The most rational will fear to go alone at mid night to a lonely crematorium site. I believe that I am rational enough. However, the movie 'Jadoo Tona' frightened me for many days when I was about thirty. The movie was about ghost. But just a few days back, i again saw this movie on TV and I was very normal. People become rational only when they begin free thinking and form independent opinion. Even then they can not wash away everything from their mind. We have to live with a bit irrationality also.
It's no doubt true that those childhood ghost stories leave a kind of permanent signatures in our psyche but as I raised the original point in initial post that there has to be a demarcation between these para-psychological experiences and some divine experience of a few of our sages and seers!
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