Group Discussion Contest: 9th April to 16th April!

So some super power exist.One serial was in TV long ago. We watched that named "believe or not".Many unnatural fact were seen which were unbelievable.

Some powers may or may not exist. If we can't see with eyes, does it mean, such forces don't exist at all????? :silly: :blink:

The lonely places, deserted buildings, crematoriums are said to be shelter of ghosts. The animals and birds freely go to these places day and night and do not get harmed by the evil spirits. Only man fears and is harmed. I wonder what this indicates. are the dogs, owls, cats free from terror of evil spirits unlike man?

Apparently, this is more psychological than real. As chinmoy said, there are many strange things occurring that cannot be explained. Human mind and energy is too small in relation to universe. Many things were unknown at the dawn of civilization and humanity has made a lot of progress so far. But still our knowledge is only a fraction of the whole and it is unlikely that all mysteries of universe could be solved any time.

Indian culture emphasis on the existance of 'Panch Bhootha' constituting 5 basic elements of life and they are themselves considered as strong enough to control the whole earth. Early men feared them and they begin to worship them in the form of God- Varuna.....(for water)....Agnideva...(for fire)...Goddess Bhumi for Earth......Vayu Bhagavan for air. Though can't be seen , their virtual existence was considered as divine forces by early men itself.

[quote]Indian culture emphasis on the existance of 'Panch Bhootha' constituting 5 basic elements of life and they are themselves considered as strong enough to control the whole earth. Early men feared them and they begin to worship them in the form of God- Varuna.....(for water)....Agnideva...(for fire)...Goddess Bhumi for Earth......Vayu Bhagavan for air. Though can't be seen , their virtual existence was considered as divine forces by early men itself. [/quote]

Sandhya, a little correction, the five elements Panch Mahabhoota not panch bhoota, and who says they are invisible??? We can clearly see fire, water, earth and the air(when it manifests itself in the form of powerful winds)! Also, I want to point out that these elements do not fall under supernatural category, although they are divine, there is a well defined and structured explanation for presence of these elements, unlike supernatural forces that we are discussing about.

[quote]The lonely places, deserted buildings, crematoriums are said to be shelter of ghosts. The animals and birds freely go to these places day and night and do not get harmed by the evil spirits. Only man fears and is harmed. I wonder what this indicates. are the dogs, owls, cats free from terror of evil spirits unlike man?

Apparently, this is more psychological than real. As chinmoy said, there are many strange things occurring that cannot be explained. Human mind and energy is too small in relation to universe. Many things were unknown at the dawn of civilization and humanity has made a lot of progress so far. But still our knowledge is only a fraction of the whole and it is unlikely that all mysteries of universe could be solved any time. [/quote]

I agree that the fear related to such elements is more psychological than real. But where the perception of animals is considered, they are much more sensitive than human beings.

I have seen in many incidents that a dog or a cat will NEVER step into a place which often gives a creepy feeling. There us one incident during my childhood, we used to live in an Air Force quarter and there was a huge neem tree in our front yard. We had a dog who was started barking one night, my mum got up to investigate and could see a white shadow revolving with great speed around the tree. The shadow kept changing shapes, and our dog was clearly very very scared. He kept barking from distance but would not go near, my mum picked up a stone and threw it at the figure which instantly vaporized. The next day, my mum fell terribly ill, no explanations could be given by doctors, and our dog inexplicably was found dead the next night a few hundred yards form our home!

[quote]The lonely places, deserted buildings, crematoriums are said to be shelter of ghosts. The animals and birds freely go to these places day and night and do not get harmed by the evil spirits. Only man fears and is harmed. I wonder what this indicates. are the dogs, owls, cats free from terror of evil spirits unlike man?

Apparently, this is more psychological than real. As chinmoy said, there are many strange things occurring that cannot be explained. Human mind and energy is too small in relation to universe. Many things were unknown at the dawn of civilization and humanity has made a lot of progress so far. But still our knowledge is only a fraction of the whole and it is unlikely that all mysteries of universe could be solved any time.

I agree that the fear related to such elements is more psychological than real. But where the perception of animals is considered, they are much more sensitive than human beings.

I have seen in many incidents that a dog or a cat will NEVER step into a place which often gives a creepy feeling. There us one incident during my childhood, we used to live in an Air Force quarter and there was a huge neem tree in our front yard. We had a dog who was started barking one night, my mum got up to investigate and could see a white shadow revolving with great speed around the tree. The shadow kept changing shapes, and our dog was clearly very very scared. He kept barking from distance but would not go near, my mum picked up a stone and threw it at the figure which instantly vaporized. The next day, my mum fell terribly ill, no explanations could be given by doctors, and our dog inexplicably was found dead the next night a few hundred yards form our home![/quote]

This is about domesticated dog. Such animals develop traits of humans. But the stray dogs, undomesticated animals and birds have no fear of any evil spirits. They will go to any deserted place at easy. In fact, the owls are lovers of such places. may be certain living beings like owls, bats and dogs love ghosts.

So friends all the views expressed so far just point to that grey region which would be always there to produce goblin,sprite,banshees and our very own Bhoots,Petnis,Sakchunnis and what not! There are some do-gooders, there are some evil-doers cutting across all genders. You have incubus and succubus!! Some of the gripping stories and floklores are based on these ethereal creatures. So don't get frightened by them as I didn't a few months back when I was returning home late in night. On that very day there was death of a person living my next door,I rang the door-bell and gently pushed the door to be awe-struck to find the door bolt came off on its own. I rushed upstairs to find if anyone opened the doors but all they seem to be stunned!!! I couldn't find a satisfactory answer till date!

[quote]Indian culture emphasis on the existance of 'Panch Bhootha' constituting 5 basic elements of life and they are themselves considered as strong enough to control the whole earth. Early men feared them and they begin to worship them in the form of God- Varuna.....(for water)....Agnideva...(for fire)...Goddess Bhumi for Earth......Vayu Bhagavan for air. Though can't be seen , their virtual existence was considered as divine forces by early men itself.

Sandhya, a little correction, the five elements Panch Mahabhoota not panch bhoota, and who says they are invisible??? We can clearly see fire, water, earth and the air(when it manifests itself in the form of powerful winds)! Also, I want to point out that these elements do not fall under supernatural category, although they are divine, there is a well defined and structured explanation for presence of these elements, unlike supernatural forces that we are discussing about.[/quote]

Yes.....in Malayalam we name them as 'Panchabhoota'. I am saying though these 5 forces are visible to us, the devas who are controlling these 5 are not visible to us and we worship sun, moon, earth, wind and water giving them humanly shapes and divine power.

Its not just about the domestic animals and undomestic. It has been said that when the animals see or smell about these supernatural powers they start moaning or crying and i have witnessed it several times. Sometimes nothing bad happens like their is no man standing, even no natural calamity also but the dogs start barking and whom they bark, wind so its not wind they bark its something else in that air.

I posted a thread In suicide thread that an uncle near my house suicided last year because he was having a paralysis problem from past 5 years. And i also said that he was very good and a positive man. Every one was in shock that how the man like him can do so. But after 3-4 months of his death the truth came infront.
On the day of his death many unusual things happened, there was a cyclone and it disturbed many things, a huge tree behind my house fallen on the room of my neighbour and his room was destroyed. And the street dogs all were moaning before his death even my dog too.
Afterwards a pandit saw the kundli of uncle after 3-4 months and when he saw it the paper was badly destroyed as if someone crushed it into pieces. then he told that someone near by your house has done some puja etc for doing this, Afterwards someone told that the lady living infront of her house has done this puja to save his husband and she will do this after every 3 to 5 years in which one mperson will die and his man will be saved. And many pandits told this. And its true also because the lady is always involved in such activities and earlier the condition of her house was not good but after death of that uncle everything seems to be good in her house.

There is a abandon house with a tree in front, people fear to go there as they thing a person with his lover, committed suicide. Another such place is my college hostel, In one room a girl committed suicide, and no one never get near to that room. :blink: :huh: :) Does this happened anywhere?

Yes one can find these abandoned houses anywhere. :laugh:

It was said about the girl's hostel of our college that one of the girl committed suicide there and her ghost often comes to the hostel to do some spooky things but i don't know if it was true or not. :) I asked it from one of the girl living in the hostel she said no i never felt like any ghost there. :laugh:

I concluded from it that these stories are made just to make sort of fear in people and nothing more. :)

Yes I beleive in supernatural powers.

They are called as spirits of deadely persons who had not reached their goals and wishes will stay on this earth until they reach them.

I know some persons who can see ghosts and can hear their voices also.

My friends father can see the ghosts but he had not feared of them.

There is a belief that persons who born in one star can see the ghosts.

Yes I beleive in supernatural powers.

They are called as spirits of deadely persons who had not reached their goals and wishes will stay on this earth until they reach them.

I know some persons who can see ghosts and can hear their voices also.

My friends father can see the ghosts but he had not feared of them.

There is a belief that persons who born in one star can see the ghosts.

I am not against the people who believe on ghosts or spirits :) .But i want to know that there are very few people in the world who fulfill their wishes during their life time so all of them should become ghosts when they die and then the population of ghosts would be more or equal to the population of us human beings then why we rarely hear an incident of someone seeing the ghost or hearing it :laugh: .Where all the ghosts go? :laugh: Do they sleep most of the time? :evil: or what? :laugh:

Some of the ghosts went away as their wishes fulfilled.

and some of the ghosts are doing funny things in some body houses.

And other ghosts are just watching their family members and staying happily.

I forgotten to say one thing they all are in this world only when we are in sleep they wake up so we cannot see them. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Some of the ghosts went away as their wishes fulfilled.

and some of the ghosts are doing funny things in some body houses.

And other ghosts are just watching their family members and staying happily.

I forgotten to say one thing they all are in this world only when we are in sleep they wake up so we cannot see them. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

So they fulfill their wishes after death? :laugh:

They are active in the night. :laugh: I have tried to see ghost while waking whole night outside the shamshan ghaats but i have never seen the ghosts. :laugh:

I always believe that those who are strong mentally don't imagine about ghosts when they are feared and those who are not easily imagine something for the cause of their fears it may be a ghost or anything else. :laugh:

Yes I beleive in supernatural powers.

They are called as spirits of deadely persons who had not reached their goals and wishes will stay on this earth until they reach them.

I know some persons who can see ghosts and can hear their voices also.

My friends father can see the ghosts but he had not feared of them.

There is a belief that persons who born in one star can see the ghosts.

I am not against the people who believe on ghosts or spirits :) .But i want to know that there are very few people in the world who fulfill their wishes during their life time so all of them should become ghosts when they die and then the population of ghosts would be more or equal to the population of us human beings then why we rarely hear an incident of someone seeing the ghost or hearing it :laugh: .Where all the ghosts go? :laugh: Do they sleep most of the time? :evil: or what? :laugh:

I have also known through various sources that the frustrated and those who committed suicide become ghosts. n becoming ghosts, they may go to any place and do what they like.

So, I may visit the choicest restaurants and bars and enjoy my best without spending any penny. Also, I may do what ever I like without others even knowing.

Yes I beleive in supernatural powers.

They are called as spirits of deadely persons who had not reached their goals and wishes will stay on this earth until they reach them.

I know some persons who can see ghosts and can hear their voices also.

My friends father can see the ghosts but he had not feared of them.

There is a belief that persons who born in one star can see the ghosts.

I am not against the people who believe on ghosts or spirits :) .But i want to know that there are very few people in the world who fulfill their wishes during their life time so all of them should become ghosts when they die and then the population of ghosts would be more or equal to the population of us human beings then why we rarely hear an incident of someone seeing the ghost or hearing it :laugh: .Where all the ghosts go? :laugh: Do they sleep most of the time? :evil: or what? :laugh:

I have also known through various sources that the frustrated and those who committed suicide become ghosts. n becoming ghosts, they may go to any place and do what they like.

So, I may visit the choicest restaurants and bars and enjoy my best without spending any penny. Also, I may do what ever I like without others even knowing.

Hahaha... :laugh: yes you can do it but please better to confirm from the ghosts first which restaurant make their food i think they don't like what we human being eat they eat something special. :laugh:

Many of members cannot see ghosts as we are not born in that star.

But when we are alone we can imagine some thing around us.

When we are in dark we can imagine that some thing is with us which we all will call as ghosts. :unsure: :ohmy:

Lots of interesting posts and everyone has added a bit of ghostly flavor to them! I would just add whatever I suggested earlier that this is a subject which has never ceased to capture our imagination ever since the dawn of civilization. We simply can't do without them as they can't do without us! Let there be more such unnatural ghostly happening and more scientific explorations side by side! But to my humble understanding human beings have become more dangerous,ruthless and inhuman these days than their ghostly counterparts!!!

Here I conclude and thanks to all!

There is a abandon house with a tree in front, people fear to go there as they thing a person with his lover, committed suicide. Another such place is my college hostel, In one room a girl committed suicide, and no one never get near to that room. :blink: :huh: :) Does this happened anywhere?

Yes one can find these abandoned houses anywhere. :laugh:

It was said about the girl's hostel of our college that one of the girl committed suicide there and her ghost often comes to the hostel to do some spooky things but i don't know if it was true or not. :) I asked it from one of the girl living in the hostel she said no i never felt like any ghost there. :laugh:

I concluded from it that these stories are made just to make sort of fear in people and nothing more. :)

Hmm but what will they acheive by creating fear? Such fear will take another person's life too. The girl in the next room died immeditely after the suicide due to heart attack, her roomate use to hear lot of sounds in the room, and she also got sick for some days. :blink: :S

Yes I beleive in supernatural powers.

They are called as spirits of deadely persons who had not reached their goals and wishes will stay on this earth until they reach them.

I know some persons who can see ghosts and can hear their voices also.

My friends father can see the ghosts but he had not feared of them.

There is a belief that persons who born in one star can see the ghosts.

Which star, Sasi????
Most of the members who has shared ideas for discussion have added some sort of 'ghost' masala to the threads. But even a single member has not claimed with confidence that "I have seen ghost in real life" :P
Actually do they exist?????? I don't believe ghosts do exist who wear white sarees and wander around in Friday nights asking betel leaf and lime :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
But some forces may or may not exist which can put strong influence on human beings :unsure: . I have told in the discussion about soul of ancestors who reside in families, who may help family members to foresee incidents to occur in future. We do worship them. Yet, I have not seen any. Yet felt their presence through many experiences....that's all.

Actually, this discussion is concluding without any clear cut answer to the question. Really sad ;)