Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

usha manohar wrote:

Hopefully Mr Modi will seriously look into abolishing article 370 in Kashmir and let it become a normal state like the others and bring in Uniform civil code ..these two measures could help our nation immensely. Most developed nations have a state religion and I dont see why India with a population of 80% Hindus cannot have a state religion. It solves several problems related to religion..  

That will be like a historical decision and a tough one going against populism. I think only BJP government with a majority mark can do that. They did not do it in last 5 years playing safe for next term. But if they come next term with clean mandate they should do it in favour of nation. There is a big demand of this from Modi on various social media platform especially after Phulwama incident. There is also speculation in media that this government is considering to abolish Article 35 A though they have not verified it. Even it came in today's newspaper. 

I just hope that if they come with clean mandate in upcoming election, they should take few of these tough decisions. They will be like last nail in the coffin of all the toruble and terrorism in Kashmir. We will have unrest for short time but things will be resolved in a long run.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

Arunima Singh wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Hopefully Mr Modi will seriously look into abolishing article 370 in Kashmir and let it become a normal state like the others and bring in Uniform civil code ..these two measures could help our nation immensely. Most developed nations have a state religion and I dont see why India with a population of 80% Hindus cannot have a state religion. It solves several problems related to religion..  

That will be like a historical decision and a tough one going against populism. I think only BJP government with a majority mark can do that. They did not do it in last 5 years playing safe for next term. But if they come next term with clean mandate they should do it in favour of nation. There is a big demand of this from Modi on various social media platform especially after Phulwama incident. There is also speculation in media that this government is considering to abolish Article 35 A though they have not verified it. Even it came in today's newspaper. 

I just hope that if they come with clean mandate in upcoming election, they should take few of these tough decisions. They will be like last nail in the coffin of all the toruble and terrorism in Kashmir. We will have unrest for short time but things will be resolved in a long run.

Flexible law is best one and rigid law is worst one. So section 370 was demand of that time. Time is enough changed. With this nation and Kashmir never get any benefit , one thing with this law and it is that Kashmir is till most backward state of India. This law is barrier in way of progress of Kashmir. It must be removed. Some political parties like National conferance and SP are always threating country and government that if this section is removed their may be big riots in Kashmir and it went to Pakistan. It is noting more than fictional fear which is created by some selfish politicians. It is question, that Kashmir have peace and calm with this section. Kashmir is burning, what will new happen if this section will remove?

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

I know the community extremely well, have lived with Sikhs as neighbours, grown up with Sikh friends, may be there are some who refuse to identify with their original Hindu roots but it still does not mean that they are wary of Hindus or view other religions as a threat like Muslims do!

Narendra Modi is doing his best to help uplift the nation. If there is one lacuna in his working style that is talking too much about opposition parties. He should refrain from doing this which will be more graceful for his post and personality.

suni51 wrote:

Narendra Modi is doing his best to help uplift the nation. If there is one lacuna in his working style that is talking too much about opposition parties. He should refrain from doing this which will be more graceful for his post and personality.

I agree! Until now, he focused on projecting his work and completed projects rather loudly but I think that was necessary also to make people realise that BJP government is indeed doing productive work as compared to earlier and I think that that purpose has been solved. If granted a second term, which I hope and pray will happen, he should talk less and work as usual!

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

anil wrote:

What you wrote above are right one. You don't read about what happen with Hindus of Punjab and Sindh are. My city have many family who come here empty hand. Gandhi ji never appeal to Muslim not to kill Hindus.

I did read about it and I also wrote about partition in my post. Nathuram Godse belonged to a Maharashtrian Brahmin family from Pune. Maharashtra and Maharashtrians were never directly affected by the partition like Punjabis, Sindhis and other Hindus from those states. But he was so moved by the plight of the Hindus returning to India from Pakistan both dead alive that he was very much enraged by it all, he was further enraged by Gandhi's continued policy of forgiving Muslims, keeping them happy. etc. He did fall out with RSS because he believed in direct and extreme action by force which RSS did not permit. Savarkar believed in Gandhiji only until Moplah happened, after that he realized that secular nation was not completely possible because you can never keep the Muslims happy, all they wanted was their own philosophy and for EVERY ONE to believe in Islam. India being majority Hindu, it was not possible and so he supported two nation theory BUT he also advocated that India be declared a HINDU nation at the time of partition. But your dear Gandhi and Nehru rejected that and threw Savarkar aside. Congress followed G and N and therefore the policy of Muslim appeasement begin at the cost of Hindu peace. Let me make it clear here that Hindutva does not mean hating Muslims but recognising that Hindutva is the first and foremost religion of India which in any case is true, Muslims should be able to recognise and respect that fact, many of them living in India do that any way. But given the rise of Wahabism as dictated by fanatical Mullahs, especially by the Deobandis who run Aligarh Muslim University, it is uncertain whether they will ever respect other religions.

What you wrote I also read some what, but I think it was not possible at that time to declare India as Hindu nation. Sikh community is one of largest community of North India. Sikhs are also not accepting that they are Hindu. At the of Partition Sikhs also demands for separate nation for them. But it also right that when Muslim get nation for them than they have not right to stay here.

Who said it was not possible to declare India a Hindu nation???  It was very much possible! Gandhiji insisted, in fact he was very obstinate about it to let Muslims stay in India if they wished to while Hindus were run out of Pakistan brutally while snatching away little and young girls and forcing them into becoming slaves to Pakis. But Gandhi and Nehru both didn't want to declare Hindu status because of their secularism which has so damaged our country. As far as Sikhs are concerned, they always had full respect towards Hindu as a religion since they understand that they themselves were Hindus at one point of time and there was no question of offending them as Hindus and Sikhs have always and even now lived and worked in total harmony! So that point is not valid. The question was only of having the will do do and that too with only a few people!

You may be right one some points, sorry, you don't know about Sikh community. I am living is area where Sikh community is living in large number and my city is also adjoining to Punjab. I know well about Sikh culture and their traditions and culture. Sikh never accepted it that they are Hindu. Master Tara Singh was of Akali leader and at the time of Partition he demands for separate Sikh state. Here in my are Sikh are minor community, if they are Hindu why they are minor here. Their rituals of marriage is differ from Hindus.

I know the community extremely well, have lived with Sikhs as neighbours, grown up with Sikh friends, may be there are some who refuse to identify with their original Hindu roots but it still does not mean that they are wary of Hindus or view other religions as a threat like Muslims do!

It is right that all sikhs are of Hindu origin. You are living in Maharashtra and Skihs which are leaving their are not too much. Some time come to Punjab and ask this question to them that you are Hindu, they will reply you. If Sikhs are Hindu than why they are minor community in my area. Their education institutes are minor community institutes.