Can we question employer if betrayed

It happen in most of the companies now-a-days, that employer do what ever they like and even don't pay sometimes saying "didn't liked your work" :angry:
While hiring they should analyse employee's capability..they do it too. Then why they betray us and in such case what should a employee do?

There are certain rules and regulations for hiring as well as firing - if and when that is not followed you can go to the consumer court.If you have not gone through your employment letter and made sure that you are protected as far as your rights as an employee is concerned, then it is your loss ...

I have already faced this problem. That's why I am now interested in Government Job rather than private company or MNC jobs. The employees can file a case in court against the company or he may leave the job and look for the better one.

Devayani
I think you are confused..govt job is much safer as laws and rules are there to handle such problems but in case of private companies first of all consistency is not there, who know they will stay or pack up suddenly..makes us unemployed and we even cannt report anywhere once they pack up.... :huh:

It happen in most of the companies now-a-days, that employer do what ever they like and even don't pay sometimes saying "didn't liked your work" :angry:
While hiring they should analyse employee's capability..they do it too. Then why they betray us and in such case what should a employee do?

Such practices are very common in the private sector. Although redressal mechanism is available but it is so loaded against a hapless employee!

Redressal mechanism ??? is it in favour of employee or employer?

It happen in most of the companies now-a-days, that employer do what ever they like and even don't pay sometimes saying "didn't liked your work" :angry:
While hiring they should analyse employee's capability..they do it too. Then why they betray us and in such case what should a employee do?

There are certain rules and regulations for hiring as well as firing - if and when that is not followed you can go to the consumer court.If you have not gone through your employment letter and made sure that you are protected as far as your rights as an employee is concerned, then it is your loss ...

But going to consumer court is not easy task for one employee...Anyway loss is always in employee side. :(

Though employee protect themselves from getting fired.by being sincere, efficient...companies are more concern about so called quality(don't really know what is the meaning in employer terminology) and more important number( overloaded work which they know is not feasible for one person to do).. :unsure:

I want to know if there is no agreement between employer and employee that state - employer can stop payment if he is not satisfied with employee work
is it feasible to question the employer if he doesn't pay with similar reason. (consider that the employer is private organization)

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

I want to know if there is no agreement between employer and employee that state - employer can stop payment if he is not satisfied with employee work
is it feasible to question the employer if he doesn't pay with similar reason. (consider that the employer is private organization)

In the absence of any written agreement between the two, it would be very hard to put up fight of any sort, because there would be no proof of the employment in the first place. A common place practice in so many private enterprises where the salaries are given mostly in cash, and there is no stuff like PF etc,. that would point to a concrete for of employment! :angry:

I want to know if there is no agreement between employer and employee that state - employer can stop payment if he is not satisfied with employee work
is it feasible to question the employer if he doesn't pay with similar reason. (consider that the employer is private organization)

In the absence of any written agreement between the two, it would be very hard to put up fight of any sort, because there would be no proof of the employment in the first place. A common place practice in so many private enterprises where the salaries are given mostly in cash, and there is no stuff like PF etc,. that would point to a concrete for of employment! :angry:

Exactly there are organisations which don't enroll people but they do enroll them on temporary basis so they don't have stuffs like PF,ESI for them so whenever the employer feels like that he does not want that person he easily can ask him to leave. :evil:

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

Advocates in labor courts are perfect handling such cases on 50% basis. They even charge their fee once the client wins.

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

Advocates in labor courts are perfect handling such cases on 50% basis. They even charge their fee once the client wins.

I don't know but i have seen in most of the cases an employee don't go to the court fearing of the expenses. :evil:

Yes that's true employee really don't venture to go to court just for getting their payment from employer as they know that its going to cost more than the payment to be received.. :(

Another problem these days is employer though give certificate of work experience etc... they keep all information clean about themselves by making employee sign NDA(company name or work shouldn't be disclosed in any circumstances. This means almost all powers of going against them is gone... :S
But still a hope exist that some strict action should be taken against such company..

yes, we have right to question the employer if that person is not paying us though we work hard.

Yes that's true employee really don't venture to go to court just for getting their payment from employer as they know that its going to cost more than the payment to be received.. :(

Another problem these days is employer though give certificate of work experience etc... they keep all information clean about themselves by making employee sign NDA(company name or work shouldn't be disclosed in any circumstances. This means almost all powers of going against them is gone... :S
But still a hope exist that some strict action should be taken against such company..

I also have thought it many times but there is no way employee can compete with employer :evil: .There should be some place where employee's griefs are listened and some actions could be taken against the employer. :blink:

Yes it is human right and we can ask the cause of betray.

One cannot smoothly work in an organization where he is not wanted. Even if sticks somehow, he will not get due promotions and increments. The best way is quit an organization before being shown the door. But ensure that you get all your dues from the employer.

One cannot smoothly work in an organization where he is not wanted. Even if sticks somehow, he will not get due promotions and increments. The best way is quit an organization before being shown the door. But ensure that you get all your dues from the employer.

Its right that one should leave the organisation himself if he is not fitting in it before they show him the door but what to do when the employer don't give him the salary for the days he worked there before being aksed to leave?. :blink:

One cannot smoothly work in an organization where he is not wanted. Even if sticks somehow, he will not get due promotions and increments. The best way is quit an organization before being shown the door. But ensure that you get all your dues from the employer.

Its right that one should leave the organisation himself if he is not fitting in it before they show him the door but what to do when the employer don't give him the salary for the days he worked there before being aksed to leave?. :blink:

Same doubt here :blink: we cann't leave the unpaid amount... :S neither can fight through law.

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

Advocates in labor courts are perfect handling such cases on 50% basis. They even charge their fee once the client wins.

It is true very few aggrieved employees ,especially those belonging to the unorganized sector have limited avenues to get their grievances redressed. Labor-related cases are mostly filed by labor unions. The scenario on this score has deteriorated further with the government taking very little interest in liberalized economy. The very suggestion that advocates advancing their rentier interest shamelessly by pocketing 50% tells its own story!!

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

Advocates in labor courts are perfect handling such cases on 50% basis. They even charge their fee once the client wins.

It is true very few aggrieved employees ,especially those belonging to the unorganized sector have limited avenues to get their grievances redressed. Labor-related cases are mostly filed by labor unions. The scenario on this score has deteriorated further with the government taking very little interest in liberalized economy. The very suggestion that advocates advancing their rentier interest shamelessly by pocketing 50% tells its own story!!

That is good and bad both, if they do it- I mean the advocates they do it with a risk, although they win most of the times because they do not keep whole amount for themselves. You know what I mean when I say they do win the cases most of the times and do not keep whole amount. I know you understand it perfectly as to where the balance amount goes.

They have labor courts which are almost always decide in favor of employees, moreover there are lawyers who represent employees on share basis i.e.-payment when they win the case.

Yes there are labor courts but they need bribe which every one can't afford it as employer can afford it so in most of the cases they win. :evil:

Advocates in labor courts are perfect handling such cases on 50% basis. They even charge their fee once the client wins.

It is true very few aggrieved employees ,especially those belonging to the unorganized sector have limited avenues to get their grievances redressed. Labor-related cases are mostly filed by labor unions. The scenario on this score has deteriorated further with the government taking very little interest in liberalized economy. The very suggestion that advocates advancing their rentier interest shamelessly by pocketing 50% tells its own story!!

Well, that is true, but what I want to ask is, the companies or places where the workers are part of such labour unions will definitely have SOME protections, the union will take up cudgels on behalf of a wronged employee. But what about those countless small industries, shops, hotels etc. where there is no such protection?? The wages people get is so less that they can hardly approach any one for help! :(