Anti India slogan in JNU, Delhi

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Our system has been reduced to nothing but an unsafe and unhealthy place for citizens because of the political manipulations in the name of minorities , that some parties play.They want to  hate and disown anything Hindu and support anything that has minority written over it ! This trend over the years has cost our country a great deal , be it Kashmir or internal issues ! Even today they wont let go but hold on to their past mistakes and stubbornly insist on causing more damage !

Policy of Appeasement of minorities is not new it, it is continue since freedom. 

 

While it is the duty of the elected government to take care of all its citizens regardless of religion, caste or creed, it is also unfair to be partial to any one community simply because they help you get votes. Some people may argue how a minority community can help a party get votes, this is because minorities are known to stay clustered together and in some places there are more than 70 -80% of the same community living in the same area ...

For which government you are talking. Most of leader are edict of power. Power is first thing for them all are behind it. Leaders which are Hindu not serious for Hindus because Hindus are not organized, they are not vote bank.

Yes, every leader and his/her political party believes in having power and naturally appeasement of minorities is their vote bank. The worst point is that the esteemed universities are getting affected so badly. 

Beating the media reporters in court is not a good step, but it is also true that today, some of the media reports act as anti nationals. To get TRP these reporters help anti nationalists directly or indirectly. 

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Right now I am watching the news and typing this comment. Is this nationalism that which is taking place in the Patiala Court right now? A bunch of lawyers seem to be the greatest patriots who has turned into goondas and roughing up the journalists, even other lawyers and SFI supporters. 

Nobody supports anti national. There is no opposition to nab the anti nationalists. But so far anyone raising anti nationalist  slogan has not been nabbed. On the other hand innocent are being terrorized by the saffron goons- many in garb of lawyers. It is shame of those responsible for law and order in Delhi that Supreme Court had to intervene for routine work of maintaining law and order and preventing violence in court. even journalists and supreme court lawyers deputed by apex court were not spared. 

It is rightly said patriotism (or nationalism) is last refuge of scoundrel. The saffron goons are themselves anti national. Nationalism does not mean loving ancient scriptures and worshiping rivers, trees, various deities and chanting Bharat mata ki jai. Nation consists of not only Hindus but also Muslims, Christians, Dalits and others. If you hate the vast majority of minorities, dalits, poor, lower castes (dalit) who constitute majority, you are ant nation despite your pretensions.   

 

When Indira imposed emergency in 1975 why did the BJP oppose it. She also said that it was done for the sake of meeting threat to nation. BJP opposed it vigorously but no sedition charges were leveled against any opposing leader. It was their right to protest and they did it. Similarly today those who are not in agreement with government policies will oppose it. They have a right to do so. Why put sedition charges against them. It is this that is uniting opinion across the country against the government. In Gujarat they have slapped sedition charges against Hardik Patel for demanding reservation for Patels. It is not fair. At this rate there will be no opposition left to function in the country. 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Right now I am watching the news and typing this comment. Is this nationalism that which is taking place in the Patiala Court right now? A bunch of lawyers seem to be the greatest patriots who has turned into goondas and roughing up the journalists, even other lawyers and SFI supporters. 

Nobody supports anti national. There is no opposition to nab the anti nationalists. But so far anyone raising anti nationalist  slogan has not been nabbed. On the other hand innocent are being terrorized by the saffron goons- many in garb of lawyers. It is shame of those responsible for law and order in Delhi that Supreme Court had to intervene for routine work of maintaining law and order and preventing violence in court. even journalists and supreme court lawyers deputed by apex court were not spared. 

It is rightly said patriotism (or nationalism) is last refuge of scoundrel. The saffron goons are themselves anti national. Nationalism does not mean loving ancient scriptures and worshiping rivers, trees, various deities and chanting Bharat mata ki jai. Nation consists of not only Hindus but also Muslims, Christians, Dalits and others. If you hate the vast majority of minorities, dalits, poor, lower castes (dalit) who constitute majority, you are ant nation despite your pretensions.

This cannot be termed as nationalism. It's sheer hooliganism which is not justified.

  

 

 

My view of the action by lawyers is different. It is good that this happened, for someone must show anger at the antinational acts of the students. It shows anger of people and till such acts dont happen frequently the anti nationals will have a field day.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Right now I am watching the news and typing this comment. Is this nationalism that which is taking place in the Patiala Court right now? A bunch of lawyers seem to be the greatest patriots who has turned into goondas and roughing up the journalists, even other lawyers and SFI supporters. 

Nobody supports anti national. There is no opposition to nab the anti nationalists. But so far anyone raising anti nationalist  slogan has not been nabbed. On the other hand innocent are being terrorized by the saffron goons- many in garb of lawyers. It is shame of those responsible for law and order in Delhi that Supreme Court had to intervene for routine work of maintaining law and order and preventing violence in court. even journalists and supreme court lawyers deputed by apex court were not spared. 

It is rightly said patriotism (or nationalism) is last refuge of scoundrel. The saffron goons are themselves anti national. Nationalism does not mean loving ancient scriptures and worshiping rivers, trees, various deities and chanting Bharat mata ki jai. Nation consists of not only Hindus but also Muslims, Christians, Dalits and others. If you hate the vast majority of minorities, dalits, poor, lower castes (dalit) who constitute majority, you are ant nation despite your pretensions.

This cannot be termed as nationalism. It's sheer hooliganism which is not justified.

  You cannot run with the hare and hunt with hound. Anti national elements must be suppressed. The lawyers did a good thing. In fact these students should be caned or lashed. 40 lashes with a whip will sOrt them out, even a developed state like Singapre has lashing and caning and it is carried out.

 

 

 

MG Singh wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Right now I am watching the news and typing this comment. Is this nationalism that which is taking place in the Patiala Court right now? A bunch of lawyers seem to be the greatest patriots who has turned into goondas and roughing up the journalists, even other lawyers and SFI supporters. 

Nobody supports anti national. There is no opposition to nab the anti nationalists. But so far anyone raising anti nationalist  slogan has not been nabbed. On the other hand innocent are being terrorized by the saffron goons- many in garb of lawyers. It is shame of those responsible for law and order in Delhi that Supreme Court had to intervene for routine work of maintaining law and order and preventing violence in court. even journalists and supreme court lawyers deputed by apex court were not spared. 

It is rightly said patriotism (or nationalism) is last refuge of scoundrel. The saffron goons are themselves anti national. Nationalism does not mean loving ancient scriptures and worshiping rivers, trees, various deities and chanting Bharat mata ki jai. Nation consists of not only Hindus but also Muslims, Christians, Dalits and others. If you hate the vast majority of minorities, dalits, poor, lower castes (dalit) who constitute majority, you are ant nation despite your pretensions.

This cannot be termed as nationalism. It's sheer hooliganism which is not justified.

  You cannot run with the hare and hunt with hound. Anti national elements must be suppressed. The lawyers did a good thing. In fact these students should be caned or lashed. 40 lashes with a whip will sOrt them out, even a developed state like Singapre has lashing and caning and it is carried out.

 

Anti national elements should be dealt with an Iron fist. They are a menace to the integrity of the Nation.  How,students in a University raise the slogans in favor of Afzal Guru, who attacked Indian Parliament ?

 

 

 

 

Already certain channels are demonstrating that the vedeo of Kanhaiya showing him shout slogans is a morphed one and fake. In fact BJP spokesman stated that the channels are fighting a TRP war and involving politicians in it. I maintain the real truth has still to come out. Many will have to take back or eat their words. Let us wait and see.  Now lashings are being proposed because they are done in Singapore.

vijay wrote:

Already certain channels are demonstrating that the vedeo of Kanhaiya showing him shout slogans is a morphed one and fake. In fact BJP spokesman stated that the channels are fighting a TRP war and involving politicians in it. I maintain the real truth has still to come out. Many will have to take back or eat their words. Let us wait and see.  Now lashings are being proposed because they are done in Singapore.

The plain facts are evident. No body raising anti national slogans has been arrested so far. Only one innocent student has been arrested and also manhandled in court.  They are repeatedly mentioning a video with slogans- "insha allah- leke rahen ge azadi' etc. It is apparent that any leftist would not be raising such slogans. The left will say neither 'insha allah'  nor 'jai Shri Ram'.  This alone suffices to show how false the saffron block is spreading rumors and falsehood. Even the Muslim student said to be mastermind belongs to some communist group, is self proclaimed atheist for which his father does not like him. He is not a Kashmir's  either.  He also son't chant 'Insha allah'.  

 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

vijay wrote:

Already certain channels are demonstrating that the vedeo of Kanhaiya showing him shout slogans is a morphed one and fake. In fact BJP spokesman stated that the channels are fighting a TRP war and involving politicians in it. I maintain the real truth has still to come out. Many will have to take back or eat their words. Let us wait and see.  Now lashings are being proposed because they are done in Singapore.

The plain facts are evident. No body raising anti national slogans has been arrested so far. Only one innocent student has been arrested and also manhandled in court.  They are repeatedly mentioning a video with slogans- "insha allah- leke rahen ge azadi' etc. It is apparent that any leftist would not be raising such slogans. The left will say neither 'insha allah'  nor 'jai Shri Ram'.  This alone suffices to show how false the saffron block is spreading rumors and falsehood. Even the Muslim student said to be mastermind belongs to some communist group, is self proclaimed atheist for which his father does not like him. He is not a Kashmir's  either.  He also son't chant 'Insha allah'.  

 

Here one can easily surmise who is behind the entire episode which started as a university event and how the 'Hand took over and the left and the communal party together started their own tirade, with the one and only intent of destabilising and defaming the Modi government, which hey have been doing at the slightest given chance. This was a god sent opportunity to them.I see it here happening in our campus, th youth who can easily be manipulated hardly know what is going on and are being totally manipulated by the state ruling party and its hired goons who are having free run into all college campus destabilising and organising strikes etc ...The real anti nationals are these parties who need to be kicked out ..

Modi govt is not so weak to be destabilized by such events. The desire to control by rightist elements is making them target for backlash by leftist elements. In the process logic and reasoning have gone for a temporary toss. Emotional outbursts are not the answer.

Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students 

Students are from where future politicians also emerge.

Babu saroj wrote:

Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students 

Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you:

http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml

 

 

College campuses are hunting ground for politicians since they are able to manipulate young minds to their advantage and get large chunk of votes. This happens all the time and as long as it is a healthy competetion between parties I guess one can take it in ones stride but when anti national elements come in like it is happening in JNU and other universities and politicians actively encourage it, there is need to worry and try to curb this tendency right at the beginning !

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Babu saroj wrote:

Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students 

Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you:

http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml

Student politics is OK, but involvement of political parties in collage politics is not acceptable.

 

 

 

anil wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Babu saroj wrote:

Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students 

Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you:

http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml

Student politics is OK, but involvement of political parties in collage politics is not acceptable.

Yes and this has to be understood by the different political leaders. They must not engage the young minds for their selfish motive and ruin the lives of these students. In the larger context the country will be at a huge loss when such young minds take a wrong path. 

 

 

 

 

Let us not sit in judgement as to the exact nature of Kanhaia Kumar's wrong as the matter is sub judice . Art. 19(2) of our Constitution does confer on us freedom of speech but it is not an absolute one. I don't know in what context Samuel Johnson made the observation that patriotism is the last..... But of all nobler,sublime sentiments love and loyalty for one's country,bring the very best in us. Our freedom-fighters made supreme sacrifices. Our jawans have been bravely fighting enemies both within and outside in the full knowledge that they may be brutally beheaded and their bodies sadistically thrown across the border. Knowing well their lives may be snuffed out any moment by dastardly acts of external enemies or insurgents of our country leaving behind them their young widows and little ones! The other day Jadavpur University students came out openly with placards supporting secession of just not J&K but also Nagaland and Manipur raising provocative slogans. Who will save this country? Rahul Gandhi,perhaps!!!

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Babu saroj wrote:

Well my thinking is that the student should focus on their studies rather than doing all this. and if they want to do all this then there are other ways of doing that because they are students and this kind of behaviour is not meant for the students 

Students are the future of a country and so they need to voice their opinion. Yes, what is required is a right mentor who can guide them on the path that leads to a better country. Student politics is not new but they should not be misguided. Even the students played important role in our Freedom Struggle. A link for you:

http://www.merinews.com/article/role-of-students-in-the-indian-independence-movement/15908767.shtml

that's only i was saying that they are students and they are educated so why they are doing all these there are many other ways also to get justice. i mean to say that this is not the proper way for a student to do all these, this doesn't set a good example.