People visit in Sirdi in Lacs daily . Do you think its good or its only being profession day by day?

vijay wrote:

In a particular religion there are no statues, icons, paintings etc and yet the commitment and attachmentvto their religion is equal or greater.

And that is the religion which treats other religions as being trash and wish to wipe out followers of all other religions! And you cannot definitely say that just because other religions have symbols or statues, their followers have lesser commitment! At least other religions are not as fanatic, regressive and aggressive as the one mentioned by you!

As usual you are going tangential. You stated that symbols etc help in greater attachment by followers to their religion. In response  I stated that even in absence of these similar attachment is observed in another religion. Period. 

@Vijai that particular religion has plenty of symbols and the followers of that religion are even more intolerant. Try to say something against those symbols and see what happens! Here we can get away saying anything about Hindu symbols and religious beliefs (I personally avoid anything about any religion though) but others are not as tolerant as we are. 

I hope the members have seen the Bollywood movie "Oh My God." It provides an apt way of worshipping God. It debunks the false beliefs and ways of minting money adopted by some greedy people in the name of Almighty. 

If you believe in a superior being, then simply believe!! You can worship stones all you want. You can chant bhajans in your house. But if you take out processions and disrupt daily traffic, if you spread hate and cause riots, if you earn loads of money at the expense of illiterate, helpless common masses, then you know you're dead wrong about religion. 

No I have not seen "Oh My God" but I saw PK and I thought for a moment if Amir Khan could script that movie around "you know what I mean". It's easy to say things about Hindu Gods but when it comes to other religions. I hope you know "what I mean" again.   

Sunil, I have also seen OK and the hypocrisy in all religions is shown including in 'you know what I mean'. Please do not try to be purposely selective even when the message is unbiased. The arguement put forward was that symbols help in better binding in Hindus which I perectly agree with. What I stated was that even in religions which has far less symbols than Hinduism there also attachment is equal or more. So symbols are not responsible for attachment but inherent faith in the  ideology is. Why do you always bring in the threat that try criticizing the you know who and see what will happen and it is easy to criticize Hindu gods etc. Dissent has been the backbone of Hindu thought and even the great Sankracharya also had to debate his ideas during his time. Any reference to the great religion of Hinduism should not be taken as critism all the time and plurality is its hallmark. Needless sensitivity will kill the beauty of Hinduism and stop its fee flow through centuries. There is no need to constantly compare with the you know who. To hell with them.

suni51 wrote:

No I have not seen "Oh My God" but I saw PK and I thought for a moment if Amir Khan could script that movie around "you know what I mean". It's easy to say things about Hindu Gods but when it comes to other religions. I hope you know "what I mean" again.   

As far as I can remember PK was a harmless satire on all the religions and their practices in general. The very fact that you are getting offended gives the measure of your tolerance. 

Earlier we have had countless moves where Hindu gods like Krishna, Hanuman , Ram and Shiva were shown in different avatars , descending on earth ,many a times riding motor cycles and getting fooled by people , later showing their power and so on..it was taken in the spirit it was meant to be. The whole intolerance issue began with Salman Rushdie and his book that spoke about Islam which was thought  as derogatory. The same with Jesus when certain sections began to portray Jesus in a humorous manner, which did not go well with them. So, when MF Hussain began taking undue liberties with Hindu gods and goddesses , certain sections of Hindus began to retaliate seeing the unfairness of it all ..so , it is tit for tat more than anything !

Very difficult to see things in a different way. Always lay the blame on the you know who.

And I suppose you have a better or more convincing reasoning ..

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

suni51 wrote:

No I have not seen "Oh My God" but I saw PK and I thought for a moment if Amir Khan could script that movie around "you know what I mean". It's easy to say things about Hindu Gods but when it comes to other religions. I hope you know "what I mean" again.   

As far as I can remember PK was a harmless satire on all the religions and their practices in general. The very fact that you are getting offended gives the measure of your tolerance. 

I agree... here is another harmless satire coming for you. Please enjoy it and tell us that someone only did it for the sake of fun

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/isis-threat-to-jk/296301

Sure, take more than a minute because you can't think properly in one minute but you know everything counts and movies like PK are like slow poisons which we consume in the name of 'harmless satire' and then one day these satires show their real result. Besides, we are not familiar with each other so you're free to follow your own rules and standard as long you don't want me to follow them. Have a nice time...

A joke in between friends is a two way communication and we have no way to create a similar satire so I won't take it.

There is already an increase in the number of aethists all over the world although the number may still be relatively smaller in India. In fact , they should introduce the option on all governmental forms and documents to show that it is accepted not to have any religious leanings. 

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

vijay wrote:

In a particular religion there are no statues, icons, paintings etc and yet the commitment and attachmentvto their religion is equal or greater.

We are not discussing the different religions and how a particular religion is practiced but the point is that most of the religious places have become money minting place. Though people throng to Shirdi and Tirupati, these places have lost their religious sanctity because in every step money speaks louder than anything else.     

It is an undeniable truth that most of the religious places are money minting places. May be with few exceptions.

Deleting posts and locking threads shows a lack of committment to freedom of  expression and inability to face criticism. Honestly Sunil you  have mislead bu posing as a liberal but in reality you are the  opposite. Least you can do is withdraw but do not act as a censor. 

I challenge the moderator to confront me rather than locking me out. Let the members be the judge. Or are you too scared? 

vijay wrote:

Deleting posts and locking threads shows a lack of committment to freedom of  expression and inability to face criticism. Honestly Sunil you  have mislead bu posing as a liberal but in reality you are the  opposite. Least you can do is withdraw but do not act as a censor. 

I do not mind discussion or criticism but personal attacks against any member will not be tolerated. If you think something was not fair, you had the option of going to administrator. Writing (copy paste) continually the same post in all the threads is a serious matter and that will be deleted instantly.   

Sunil you had resigned as a moderator and I  also felt you should not have. But  with your  recent actions  I feel you have lost right to be a moderator. Reputation once lost can never be  regained.

suni51 wrote:

vijay wrote:

Deleting posts and locking threads shows a lack of committment to freedom of  expression and inability to face criticism. Honestly Sunil you  have mislead bu posing as a liberal but in reality you are the  opposite. Least you can do is withdraw but do not act as a censor. 

I do not mind discussion or criticism but personal attacks against any member will not be tolerated. If you think something was not fair, you had the option of going to administrator. Writing (copy paste) continually the same post in all the threads is a serious matter and that will be deleted instantly.   

You won't lock out the person who has been using malpractice to gain points saying that you don't have that much power. But you locked me out. That's highly unfair. You let the members be the judge of what's to be deleted and what's not. 

I had to copy paste because you were continuously deleting my posts. Where is the democracy on this forum? 

Please apologize for making personal attacks, threatening me to delete the posts for no reason and then misusing your power. 

THIS SITE MEANS A LOT TO ME. Don't u dare lock me out. 

Yes, this post makes sense and your complaint about a particular member is right but how do you know that his posts not being deleted constantly or he was not banned from the site temporarily? In fact, your ban was only temporary to stop you from posting and reposting (copy paste). If you think something was not right or your posts were deleted wrongfully, you have the right to go to admin and report me. Writing the same and in different topic is as I said is not accepted so all your posts were deleted. We do not accept personal attack and copy paste in any section.