People visit in Sirdi in Lacs daily . Do you think its good or its only being profession day by day?

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suni51 wrote:

All sarcastic posts including 1 each of yours and mine plus the member in question have been deleted. All copy pasted posts deleted as well. I hope the discussion will go on in right direction... Thanks everyone.

NOTE- Be careful title like GUNDAISM will not be taken lightly and members concerned will have to clarify their statement regarding them.

Coming back to the topic , religion has not only manipulated people but it is also totally biased towards women like it is in real life . Is more proof required to say that it is a totally man made institution ? Taking for ever example , Shabarimalai where women below the age of 60 are not allowed. The explanation given is ,  because the concerned god is a celibate . So , does that mean this God has no self control? A typical human mindset where they don't spare even the heavenly beings from their prejudices,.

usha manohar wrote:

Coming back to the topic , religion has not only manipulated people but it is also totally biased towards women like it is in real life . Is more proof required to say that it is a totally man made institution ? Taking for ever example , Shabarimalai where women below the age of 60 are not allowed. The explanation given is ,  because the concerned god is a celibate . So , does that mean this God has no self control? A typical human mindset where they don't spare even the heavenly beings from their prejudices,.

If we point out and eliminate all the biases and illogical ways that a religion has adopted over the years, we will be left with absolutely nothing. 

Interestingly, a precise answer to your question was posted by you in the topic "Religion and Science" -

One can never argue with a believer of any religion because of their blind belief that is unshakable. I came across this quote on religious beliefs " Religion is about turning untested beliefs into unshakable truth through the power of institutions and passage of time " ..

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Coming back to the topic , religion has not only manipulated people but it is also totally biased towards women like it is in real life . Is more proof required to say that it is a totally man made institution ? Taking for ever example , Shabarimalai where women below the age of 60 are not allowed. The explanation given is ,  because the concerned god is a celibate . So , does that mean this God has no self control? A typical human mindset where they don't spare even the heavenly beings from their prejudices,.

If we point out and eliminate all the biases and illogical ways that a religion has adopted over the years, we will be left with absolutely nothing. 

Interestingly, a precise answer to your question was posted by you in the topic "Religion and Science" -

One can never argue with a believer of any religion because of their blind belief that is unshakable. I came across this quote on religious beliefs " Religion is about turning untested beliefs into unshakable truth through the power of institutions and passage of time " ..

Absolutely ! I have seen the most brilliant minds holding on to religious beliefs , not that they lack the capacity to think and analyse. It is belief and upbringing to a great extent that makes them die hard believers even when there is proof against it. Once at Whitefield close to Bangalore , Sai Baba was challenged by famous magician PC Sarkar to show him the vibhuti darshan where saibaba puts his hand into an upturned pot and shakes it and vibhuti flows out continuously and one can imagine the frenzy of bhaktas. But Saibaba refused to take the challenge , also never performed it again . Interestingly some top scientists and scholars were extremely angry with Sarkar for having questioned Saibaba.

Talking about the money received as donations, in our village and the neighbouring ones, the temples have proper committees with elder people as their members who regulate and keep a check on the money amassed. A part of the money is kept for the temple's development and the pandit's salary, while the rest is allotted for the welfare of the village. 

At the end of the day everybody's happy. 

If the donations received by the Saibaba Temples are spent in a proper way, it is good. But in some Saibaba temples in my Stae are misused. That is the saddest part.

Abhishek Sharma wrote:

Talking about the money received as donations, in our village and the neighbouring ones, the temples have proper committees with elder people as their members who regulate and keep a check on the money amassed. A part of the money is kept for the temple's development and the pandit's salary, while the rest is allotted for the welfare of the village. 

At the end of the day everybody's happy. 

True, by and large money received is accounted for in most temples like Tirupati, Kollur and Puttaparthy . They have a committee that takes care with cc TV's monitoring the counting f the donations received. 

Its good to see lot of reply for this post. Some times relevant some times not. But peoples still here who are active and doing well. keep it up . Some times ago I was very active member for this site but due to office workload I am not able to active but I come here when i get time.

Not surprising. There are large number of Sai Sirdi followers. Even other devotees like Vaishno Devi evotees also visit Shirdi Sai Baba in addition. Most Indians are very religious. They worship and visit numerous deities. . No doubt SibBaba is on top. Moreover it is easier to travel to shirdi than places like Amar Nath cave, Vaishno Devi, Kailash Man sarovar etc.  

It is also good business for all concered and that is a prime reasin to keep the myth alive.

There are some exceptions. Of late, in my state, I noticed, a few Saibaba Temple Donations are being used for welfare schemes. Also maintenance of the temple . Expenditures on Gold and Silver ornaments and Silk Shawls was drastically cut

Normal offerings at temples are needed for the upkeep and salary of the staff. It is when above normal offerings and in.huge volumes are made that leads to all sort of problems. Also in many famous temples there are pujaris and pandas constantly harrassing the visitors for money which will go to their pockets. This spoils the visits sanctity.

Of course , in some Temples, Pujaris harass the devotees to pay money. But in some temples, I have seen Sign Boards are displayed  saying " Complan here, if Pujaris insist on paying money for a special Darshan " the devotees should utilize this facility.

No use complaining as this system is in vogue since ancient times.

Well said. This system is beyond repair.

vijay wrote:

No use complaining as this system is in vogue since ancient times.

It seems also a part of a unique tradition that becomes an identifying feature of our society. 

As it is based on the belief of individuals, we can't comment on this. It is purely based on each and every individual.

Oh good hits on this article I notice this today. Yes its true if you feel to contribute then you should do otherwise its ok. God is related to our religion and emotion. Its believe. 

I have visited Shirdi 5 times. People go there because of faith in God. You may say that i am biased since i have visited more times. It is the fact that people only go there because of faith.

Something good must have happened after visiting there, because of what people don't stop coming.