People visit in Sirdi in Lacs daily . Do you think its good or its only being profession day by day?

Gods are treated like showpieces and displayed as per paying capacity of the viewer. So god  is under control of mortal humans.

gods are definitely Showpieces. They are mere stone sculptures carved by humans like you and me.

rambabu wrote:

gods are definitely Showpieces. They are mere stone sculptures carved by humans like you and me.

Gods are definitely not showpieces neither are they controled by us. Stone sculptures, statues, icons etc are all made by humans as they can related their faith better to a definite visual, that's all. So do not call gods as showpieces or anything similar.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

rambabu wrote:

gods are definitely Showpieces. They are mere stone sculptures carved by humans like you and me.

Gods are definitely not showpieces neither are they controled by us. Stone sculptures, statues, icons etc are all made by humans as they can related their faith better to a definite visual, that's all. So do not call gods as showpieces or anything similar.

I surely believe you, on your statement as gods are not shown pieces for them who come to temple to pray with their pure heart. Sculptures of gods create attachment between God and people who truly believe in God. 

Now, I understood both Kalyani and you. Thank you

In a particular religion there are no statues, icons, paintings etc and yet the commitment and attachmentvto their religion is equal or greater.

vijay wrote:

In a particular religion there are no statues, icons, paintings etc and yet the commitment and attachmentvto their religion is equal or greater.

We are not discussing the different religions and how a particular religion is practiced but the point is that most of the religious places have become money minting place. Though people throng to Shirdi and Tirupati, these places have lost their religious sanctity because in every step money speaks louder than anything else.     

In earlier times the religious places where also places of commerce as they would atract thousands of persons. Nothing wrong in that. So why crib now. No one can make you part with your money unles you are willing. So let us stop preaching and talk about attachment etc. Religion is one form of commercial activity.

God and religion has now become entangled..when we go back to the early days we see that it was nature in different forms being worshipped. This also brings the larger question, where were all the gods and goddesses and the connected stories and the many customs and rituals that have become a curse to the present day society in many ways ? This itself shows that religion is a man made institution that evolved through times.

Religion was perhaps invented to bring order in society and bond it together in common rituals. In days gone by it may have been necessary but in todays times it may need to be redefined.

vijay wrote:

In a particular religion there are no statues, icons, paintings etc and yet the commitment and attachmentvto their religion is equal or greater.

And that is the religion which treats other religions as being trash and wish to wipe out followers of all other religions! And you cannot definitely say that just because other religions have symbols or statues, their followers have lesser commitment! At least other religions are not as fanatic, regressive and aggressive as the one mentioned by you!

As usual you are going tangential. You stated that symbols etc help in greater attachment by followers to their religion. In response  I stated that even in absence of these similar attachment is observed in another religion. Period. 

@Vijai that particular religion has plenty of symbols and the followers of that religion are even more intolerant. Try to say something against those symbols and see what happens! Here we can get away saying anything about Hindu symbols and religious beliefs (I personally avoid anything about any religion though) but others are not as tolerant as we are. 

I hope the members have seen the Bollywood movie "Oh My God." It provides an apt way of worshipping God. It debunks the false beliefs and ways of minting money adopted by some greedy people in the name of Almighty. 

If you believe in a superior being, then simply believe!! You can worship stones all you want. You can chant bhajans in your house. But if you take out processions and disrupt daily traffic, if you spread hate and cause riots, if you earn loads of money at the expense of illiterate, helpless common masses, then you know you're dead wrong about religion. 

No I have not seen "Oh My God" but I saw PK and I thought for a moment if Amir Khan could script that movie around "you know what I mean". It's easy to say things about Hindu Gods but when it comes to other religions. I hope you know "what I mean" again.   

Sunil, I have also seen OK and the hypocrisy in all religions is shown including in 'you know what I mean'. Please do not try to be purposely selective even when the message is unbiased. The arguement put forward was that symbols help in better binding in Hindus which I perectly agree with. What I stated was that even in religions which has far less symbols than Hinduism there also attachment is equal or more. So symbols are not responsible for attachment but inherent faith in the  ideology is. Why do you always bring in the threat that try criticizing the you know who and see what will happen and it is easy to criticize Hindu gods etc. Dissent has been the backbone of Hindu thought and even the great Sankracharya also had to debate his ideas during his time. Any reference to the great religion of Hinduism should not be taken as critism all the time and plurality is its hallmark. Needless sensitivity will kill the beauty of Hinduism and stop its fee flow through centuries. There is no need to constantly compare with the you know who. To hell with them.

suni51 wrote:

No I have not seen "Oh My God" but I saw PK and I thought for a moment if Amir Khan could script that movie around "you know what I mean". It's easy to say things about Hindu Gods but when it comes to other religions. I hope you know "what I mean" again.   

As far as I can remember PK was a harmless satire on all the religions and their practices in general. The very fact that you are getting offended gives the measure of your tolerance. 

Earlier we have had countless moves where Hindu gods like Krishna, Hanuman , Ram and Shiva were shown in different avatars , descending on earth ,many a times riding motor cycles and getting fooled by people , later showing their power and so on..it was taken in the spirit it was meant to be. The whole intolerance issue began with Salman Rushdie and his book that spoke about Islam which was thought  as derogatory. The same with Jesus when certain sections began to portray Jesus in a humorous manner, which did not go well with them. So, when MF Hussain began taking undue liberties with Hindu gods and goddesses , certain sections of Hindus began to retaliate seeing the unfairness of it all ..so , it is tit for tat more than anything !

Very difficult to see things in a different way. Always lay the blame on the you know who.

And I suppose you have a better or more convincing reasoning ..