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Striking Article 370 is going to create a separate and independent state of Kashmir. You do not seem to appreciate this important repercussion and are going on repeating that like other constitution amendments article 370 can also be done away with. If Congress is guilty of not doing so why BJP is not able to do it? Blaming Congress is not going to solve the issue. 

I agree. Instead of digging the past and curse other parties, it is wise to find solution which is the responsibility of the present ruling party.

My principal and substantive questions still remain unanswered or are unappreciatively dodged! Were the merger of princely states unconditional ? Were the continuation of privy purse and recognition of rights as to titles etc.as incorporated under Article 291 and 362 of the Constitution as permanent provisons ,not conditions? If the abrogation of these Articlrs did not lead to restoration of independent status of these princely states how can we think of a scenario in J&K's case. Legally constructed and considered the terms of the Instrument  of Accession provided for accession  of the entire state ,were honoured and India was not allowed to have full control- thanks to Nehru's bungling who by that time moved the UN!My humble question is if one part of obligations of a contract is not discharged by a party, Maharaja in this case who had the obligation to ensure accession of the entire J&K- not the truncated one- why did we accede to the demands in the form of Art.370 and my question regarding its appearance as a transitional device also remains  unanswered. It shows tearing hurry on the part of the Nehru government in its utter failure to evolve a suitable strategy to deal with a situation which he made more complex than what it originally was.We can be and should be objective about Nehru- not unnecessary touchy and delusional!

Thank you said by: MG Singh, usha manohar

Doing away with article 370 is not a problem and can be done by Indian parliament with a 2/3 majority. But it requires courage and resolve. That is lacking. Pakistan has already occupied 1/3 of Kashmir and onther 1/3 is occupied by China.Both blunders were because of poor appreciation by Nehru. The bigger problem is Kashmiri Muslims do not want integration with India unlike Sikkim where 99% voted to join India. That is the reason India never held a plebiscite in Kashmir, though promised by Nehru.

The question is how long are you going to keep army in Kashmir? There 5 Divisions operating there and though I am out the morale for many reasons is dipping. There is increasing incidents of fratricide , soldiers killing officers and colleagues, Almost 50000 soldiers retire every year and non approval of OROP is one of them.

Modi has no clue how to solve the problem. This is the opinion of a retired army chief. Cant name him

Request to beginner of this thread, it is not Kashmir, it is jammu and Kashmir, and it is not High Court of JK, if I am correct it is Supreme Court of JK, I might be wrong on this. Whatever be the case, JK cannot pass any law to separate from India. It is bit like US states where they have sovereignty. 


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Thank you said by: usha manohar
mohan manohar wrote:

Request to beginner of this thread, it is not Kashmir, it is jammu and Kashmir, and it is not High Court of JK, if I am correct it is Supreme Court of JK, I might be wrong on this. Whatever be the case, JK cannot pass any law to separate from India. It is bit like US states where they have sovereignty. 

The word kashmir is used in colliquel sense and  refers to J and K. There is no Supreme Court of J and k but only high court. Please read and comment on para 2 of my post which is operative part. Incidentally there are almost daily casualities of Indian troops and now army is fighting insurgency for 25 years.  Incidentally J and K can pass a law to separate from India but 2/3 majority is required, but it wont happen as Jammu has 33 seats.

 Even if they pass a law it will have no effect as the main factor is army there. However many think sitting in chairs in mumbai and other places that army will contunue fighting for ever. Battle fatigue is creeping in and morale is dipping.

mohan manohar wrote:

Request to beginner of this thread, it is not Kashmir, it is jammu and Kashmir, and it is not High Court of JK, if I am correct it is Supreme Court of JK, I might be wrong on this. Whatever be the case, JK cannot pass any law to separate from India. It is bit like US states where they have sovereignty. 

The word kashmir is used in colliquel sense and  refers to J and K. There is no Supreme Court of J and k but only high court. Please read and comment on para 2 of my post which is operative part. Incidentally there are almost daily casualities of Indian troops and now army is fighting insurgency for 25 years.  Incidentally J and K can pass a law to separate from India but 2/3 majority is required, but it wont happen as Jammu has 33 seats.

 Even if they pass a law it will have no effect as the main factor is army there. However many think sitting in chairs in mumbai and other places that army will contunue fighting for ever. Battle fatigue is creeping in and morale is dipping.

The real situation is not known to armchair specialists sitting in other parts of India. How many know that locals do not supply any item to Indian army and every item is airlifted from Chandigarh. The cost of feeding almost 200000 troops and para military is prohibitive. I operated for 18 months in  Kashmir fighting insurgency and I know what I say. 

Srinagar  and Pahalgam are relatively sanitised,  but the countryside is dangerous. No Indian can walk freely there. The army is out and CRPF and other para military forces patrol. The real battle has yet not commenced and the fat will be in fire once Mujahaddin from ISIL and Afghanistan turn attention to Jand K. 

Supreme court in J&K? Does it exist?

Analogy with US states is simply not on!

All states are on an equal footing to my

limited knowledge.I can say with a fair bit

of objectivity that MG's account is not one

of exaggeration being one having the credentials of viewing things from the

ringside which is further backed up by some of my civilian friends who have been to this state.J&K  more particularly the Kashmir Valley has been reduced to a hotbed rather a happy hunting ground of all anti-India elements and we with all our wishy-washy thinking continue to live in our make-believe world. How long shall we remain invested with our precious and scarce resources both in terms of material and men where even the prospect of a minimal return in the form of loyalty is turning out to be a mirage. Heranguing in esoteric terms won't alter the factual status!

MG Singh wrote:

The real situation is not known to armchair specialists sitting in other parts of India. How many know that locals do not supply any item to Indian army and every item is airlifted from Chandigarh. The cost of feeding almost 200000 troops and para military is prohibitive. I operated for 18 months in  Kashmir fighting insurgency and I know what I say. 

Srinagar  and Pahalgam are relatively sanitised,  but the countryside is dangerous. No Indian can walk freely there. The army is out and CRPF and other para military forces patrol. The real battle has yet not commenced and the fat will be in fire once Mujahaddin from ISIL and Afghanistan turn attention to Jand K. 

 

Sounds scary ! It goes to show to what extent the state has been neglected by our eminent leaders....I guess you need a Hitler to bring in some order there and drive away the unwanted elements , which probably would be half the state population !!! 


Pay no mind to those who talk behind your back, it simply means that you are two steps ahead !!!

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