usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

MG Singh wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

 I completely agree with you. We must have social change and not only for Hindu women but also for Muslim women and obnoxious facets of personal law like Triple talq abolished.

If society changed, I think no need of law.

    

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

@usha manohar You are correct that the act of the cricketer is extremely condemnable. People believe in show which is so repulsive. Gifting is fine but it should not become a matter of exhibition and when people give importance to expensive articles then it seems like dowry. It must be criticised and these popular figures must learn to be within a limit. They must take responsibility in curbing social evils like dowry and so on. 

It is wrong to say that the cricketer was showing off his new car. Thw press took photos and splashed them. Why should you be always critical. Please spare the cricketer.  Congress bashing is enough.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Unless a social change happens with a complete change in the mindset and attitude of the society , mere degrees and education does  very little to change the status of women in India. In fact the more educated males have no hesitation in asking for larger dowries because they feel they are entitled to it. Unless women dont bother too much about marriage as an absolute necessity to be entered into even at the cost of buying grooms,very little can change.

Absolutely, men do not hesitate to demand dowry and see, those women who get married to such men wilfully, is really a pathetic state. The ladies enjoy luxury such as expensive car and all with their respective husbands at the cost of the biological family's expense. I pity these ladies and have no words to describe the so called educated men who take dowry. 

 

Recently there was a cricket player who was proudly displaying the Audi car or some other car given to him by his would be father in law. Giving a gift is of course personal choice the father in law may be a very rich person and may want to share part of his wealth with his daughter.But making a show of it and advertising it only sends the wrong signals and the fellow came in for a lot of negative criticism n twitter and elsewhere ..

If father wants to share his wealth with his daughter, what is wrong in it. On one hand we are talking equal right for female. on other hand we are saying that it is wrong to give gifts in marriage to daughter. If son have right of wealth of his father why daughter have not?

 

Anil, before jumping in to respond, please read the last part of my response...it is not about rights but the impression created in a country where dowry giving and taking is a crime..

Yes I read it, can you separate dowry and gift.

 

Well if you have understood good or else leave it...

@usha manohar You are correct that the act of the cricketer is extremely condemnable. People believe in show which is so repulsive. Gifting is fine but it should not become a matter of exhibition and when people give importance to expensive articles then it seems like dowry. It must be criticised and these popular figures must learn to be within a limit. They must take responsibility in curbing social evils like dowry and so on. 

@Shampa what you write is right one. Exhibition is not fair. It is saying that lest hand don't know what right hand give.