Vandalism of church at Agra

F.I.R. has been lodged against unidentified miscreants. The Hindutva organizations have denied any involvement saying that the make and not destroy. Today a mass meeting held condemning the vandalizing of church. People from all religions attended the meeting. Some candle light processions also organized.   

It's a good thing that people from all religions gathered to send a silent messagto saying such vandalism is a heinous thing, which has a limited following.

I am perturbed that a vandalism of one church perturbs the Hindu community. India has a population of 2.5% christains and thousands of churchs. The aim is conversion and this is what intrigues me. Why are we concerned about one  or two churchs ?  All over  the world , even in USA Hindu temples are dsecreted but people don't discuss this and say why it happened. We should ignore such small cases and let the police do their job. Remember in Pakistan in the wake of destruction of ONE Babri Masjid , 2000 Hindu temples were razed to earth. Hindus need not be apologitic about all this. The wrongs are mainly to the Hindus and now so called  pseudi intellectuals go about talking of a church here.

MG Singh wrote:

I am perturbed that a vandalism of one church perturbs the Hindu community. India has a population of 2.5% christains and thousands of churchs. The aim is conversion and this is what intrigues me. Why are we concerned about one  or two churchs ?  All over  the world , even in USA Hindu temples are dsecreted but people don't discuss this and say why it happened. We should ignore such small cases and let the police do their job. Remember in Pakistan in the wake of destruction of ONE Babri Masjid , 2000 Hindu temples were razed to earth. Hindus need not be apologitic about all this. The wrongs are mainly to the Hindus and now so called  pseudi intellectuals go about talking of a church here.

 

India is secular nation unlike Pakistan.  I am surprised to rad that aim of church is conversion. The Christian missionaries schools and hospitals have educated and serviced many but very few are converted.  A church is a religious place for worship/ prayer and solemnizing social ceremonies like marriage. For us, Hindu temples, Muslim mosques and Christian churches- all are sacred. Personally, I am atheist and do not subscribe to any religious thought but favor just and equal treatment of all. Incidentally, there is no question of Hindu/Christian dispute.  all people at Agra  belonging to all religions condemn the beastly and heinous act of the miscreants- whosoever they are.   

MG Singh wrote:

I am perturbed that a vandalism of one church perturbs the Hindu community. India has a population of 2.5% christains and thousands of churchs. The aim is conversion and this is what intrigues me. Why are we concerned about one  or two churchs ?  All over  the world , even in USA Hindu temples are dsecreted but people don't discuss this and say why it happened. We should ignore such small cases and let the police do their job. Remember in Pakistan in the wake of destruction of ONE Babri Masjid , 2000 Hindu temples were razed to earth. Hindus need not be apologitic about all this. The wrongs are mainly to the Hindus and now so called  pseudi intellectuals go about talking of a church here.

 

India is secular nation unlike Pakistan.  I am surprised to rad that aim of church is conversion. The Christian missionaries schools and hospitals have educated and serviced many but very few are converted.  A church is a religious place for worship/ prayer and solemnizing social ceremonies like marriage. For us, Hindu temples, Muslim mosques and Christian churches- all are sacred. Personally, I am atheist and do not subscribe to any religious thought but favor just and equal treatment of all. Incidentally, there is no question of Hindu/Christian dispute.  all people at Agra  belonging to all religions condemn the beastly and heinous act of the miscreants- whosoever they are.   

Would Mr Singh state at what percent in population a religion in a country should be taken seriously, Christians are less tan 2.5% in India's  population around 1,5%. Try as hard as they may missionaries have utterly failed to attract Hindus into Christianity. They have been at it for two thousand years now. Mr Singh can hopefully draw comfort from these facts. What is at stake when such incidents occur, is our secular credentials that State shall protect all religions equally. Comparisons with Pakistan are an insult to Indian ethos.

No matter what the reasons , any such incident should be condemned by everyone....such attacks on  religious place of worship have been going on for years now and successive governments have been unable to stop them.I feel that they shd have very strict punishment when such incidents occur .It could be a Church a mosque or a Hindu temple , they shd all be given the same treatment!

In Agra itself, people from different religions condemned the nefarious act of vandalism . This condemnations did take place earlier too and vandalisms are going unabated. It seems perpetrators are hell bent upon continuing their activities.

rambabu wrote:

In Agra itself, people from different religions condemned the nefarious act of vandalism . This condemnations did take place earlier too and vandalisms are going unabated. It seems perpetrators are hell bent upon continuing their activities.

 

If the people live in peace even in face of such vandalism, the miscreants are defeated as their game plan is failure. People only need to live in peace and not be provoked and aggressively react against other community. It is for police to book the culprits at the earliest. .   

Sanjeev Gupta wrote:

Oh that's sad. Gulshan ji but I think Agra is a sensitive place and communal rights are common there. But that's not good people consider religion more important than humanity.

 

Agra is more peaceful than other places like Meerut, Aligarh . Here people are very sensible and do not indulge in riots on such provocations. 

I feel that some miscreants are taking advantage of the fact that RSS and BJP gets blamed for all such attacks and does such things with the backing of other political parties, thats what happened here at a place called Ujjre and later it was discovered that the people who broke in were doing it for money given by political heavy weights and were asked to put thee blame on Bajrangdal and BJP..

The role of miscreants who are none but the hired goons cannot be overruled. The mission of opposition is to malign the stronger or ruling party by hook or crook. This is an old beaten path. Better brush them away. If at all, there is a truth in the allegations on RSS and BJP I condemn the vandalism.

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Sanjeev Gupta wrote:

Oh that's sad. Gulshan ji but I think Agra is a sensitive place and communal rights are common there. But that's not good people consider religion more important than humanity.

 

Agra is more peaceful than other places like Meerut, Aligarh . Here people are very sensible and do not indulge in riots on such provocations. 

 

Rioting is old style now, the new style of taking control over the situation is by increasing the population and desettle the economy and peace of the nation. That's what is happening in entire country. 

 

suni51 wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Sanjeev Gupta wrote:

Oh that's sad. Gulshan ji but I think Agra is a sensitive place and communal rights are common there. But that's not good people consider religion more important than humanity.

 

Agra is more peaceful than other places like Meerut, Aligarh . Here people are very sensible and do not indulge in riots on such provocations. 

 

Rioting is old style now, the new style of taking control over the situation is by increasing the population and desettle the economy and peace of the nation. That's what is happening in entire country. 

 

Wow!!!What an innovation. I have to agree, politics for some may be murky. But, creativity ! Jawb Nahin .

 

 

For once both action and reaction will be individually enjoyable but collectively unbearable!!!!

These are common incidents in almost every country but we react too heavily and feel too guilty on such small things. In other countries anybody hardly raises an eyebrow on such matters

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/hindu-temple-in-old-lake-highlands-in-us-vandalised_1581595.html

suni51 wrote:

These are common incidents in almost every country but we react too heavily and feel too guilty on such small things. In other countries anybody hardly raises an eyebrow on such matters

 

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/hindu-temple-in-old-lake-highlands-in-us-vandalised_1581595.html

Agree with you. Why there is no NOISE here? Are we not hypocrites of the nth order?

The link saysWashington: A Hindu temple in the US has been vandalised with nasty images spray-painted on its walls, the latest such incident in the country.

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

These are common incidents in almost every country but we react too heavily and feel too guilty on such small things. In other countries anybody hardly raises an eyebrow on such matters

 

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/hindu-temple-in-old-lake-highlands-in-us-vandalised_1581595.html

Agree with you. Why there is no NOISE here? Are we not hypocrites of the nth order?

The link saysWashington: A Hindu temple in the US has been vandalised with nasty images spray-painted on its walls, the latest such incident in the country.

 I agree, noone is pointing fingers at Obama and his government but here in India Congress has so thoroughly divided the country during its misrule that religion and caste factors seem to be even more important than good governance ...

 

To be frank it's not congress alone but almost every party has created their own votebank and never leaves a chance let go pulling each others' legs.

We have dalit vote bank

Muslim

Vaish

Bramin

Christian

Valmiki

Kisaan

Labor

etc etc. We we do not have public but vote banks ready to fight with each other on smallest of matters. I was just listening to Rahul gandhi in parliament say- 'your prime minister' pointing towards treasury benches as if prime minister belongs to a particular party and not represent the country. In his opinion a prime minister not coming from congress is no prime minister of the country. 

I think we are beating about the bush. You must have read 2 hindu temples were vandalized in USA.. What happened? Did citizens go on meetings etc to condemn it? Its a simple law order problem and police  are to take action.

 I wonder why you bring out secularism in such cases. Remember 4000 sikhs were massacred in streets of Delhi. Even hitler never did any killings on streets of Berlin.  This is secularism.?Does secularism mean holding meetings etc? Look inwards please.