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A system having laws without functionality is as good as a system without laws. A lawless society is nothing short of a Jungle. Are we gradually drifting towards square No.1, primitive ages?


When there is no law, people get tired with lawlessness and adhere to self discipline. In the past, village elders would solve all disputes without any written law. Just watch on a road crossing. some times, there is no policeman on duty. Then the traffic controls itself without police intervention.

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A system having laws without functionality is as good as a system without laws. A lawless society is nothing short of a Jungle. Are we gradually drifting towards square No.1, primitive ages?


When there is no law, people get tired with lawlessness and adhere to self discipline. In the past, village elders would solve all disputes without any written law. Just watch on a road crossing. some times, there is no policeman on duty. Then the traffic controls itself without police intervention.


That exactly is the point, if a man is matured enough to elect a government, why should he be left out for matters like drinking a coupe of drinks. The rule should be limited to legitimate limit of drinks. That is common in every civilised country.

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Thank you said by: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani
Age is no bar in Delhi pubs. even teenagers are served liqueur in these bars. The minimum age is twenty five years. It appears that the age of twenty five years is impracticable. An individual may be employed when he is eighteen. If he is employed in army, he will begin taking liqueur from army source. Then why the civilians self employed or working in shops, factories be denied the pleasure.

In all fairness, the age for drinking should be reduced to eighteen and strictly adhered to.

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The criteria may be anything. But the conditions laid out in the law should be adhered to.


This type of rules increase scope of corruption. When no ban on buying liqueur then why ban on drinking in pubs. No one can drink liqueur in public places. But it very common that people drink in road side small shops or rehdi (temporary shops)


I agree, one should be allowed to drink in pub (age reduced), it is far better than minors drinking on roadside, cars, school premises and make all sort of Tamashas. Pubs are the places where they can take their frustrations out and talk man to man.


I am partly agree with you Sunil that it is better to allowed in pub to stop them drink on road. But wine is not only means to recover from frustration. If some one frusted than he must be spend some time with friends and parents to recover from frustration.
A man of 24 living in a metro working for a MNC does not necessarily drinks out of frustration but he wants to have some fun if he visits Pubs with friends. He does not need parents there but a government (He selected it) who understands him better than how is he being treated. Such unpractical laws bring frustrations to a young man rather than a frustrated youth going to a pub for a few drinks.

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The case is same throughout India, Recently a well known pub in Delhi was raided by the police and it was found that most of the people present at the pub were students below 18 years of age and what was worse is that they were being served alcohol freely. The parents blamed the pub owner and in turn the pub admin blamed the parents for letting go off their children.


The game of passing the buck. I blame the parents. Tell me how can my son or daughter can go to a pub without money. Where from my son or daughter got the money to buy booze ? Either the parents gave the money or my son or daughter picked pockets.
A system having laws without functionality is as good as a system without laws. A lawless society is nothing short of a Jungle. Are we gradually drifting towards square No.1, primitive ages?


Is that so, do you mean permissive societies are already there in the jungle? Or they are doing far better than us. More you try to put them within undesired laws, they only want to break them with more intensity. People with lesser laws to follow, know how to keep self control. People with no false restrictions do not have to break any law. Do you think people in Gujrat do not drink, where wine is not available officially? We shall be better off, if we act our age.


I agree with that ! In fact after Holland made drugs legal the drug usage cxame down....It is also true of Gujrat where liquor is freely available if one is willing to pay a little more...However, whn a rule or law is made it should be such that all angles are taken into consideration so that loopholes are reduced and it is people friendly !


After Sweden allowed porne open for anyone, the value of porne gone immediately. Forbidden fruits are perhaps sweeter than openly available. How can you stop anyone from doing things which they find tempting.

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Thank you said by: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani
A system having laws without functionality is as good as a system without laws. A lawless society is nothing short of a Jungle. Are we gradually drifting towards square No.1, primitive ages?


Is that so, do you mean permissive societies are already there in the jungle? Or they are doing far better than us. More you try to put them within undesired laws, they only want to break them with more intensity. People with lesser laws to follow, know how to keep self control. People with no false restrictions do not have to break any law. Do you think people in Gujrat do not drink, where wine is not available officially? We shall be better off, if we act our age.


I agree with that ! In fact after Holland made drugs legal the drug usage cxame down....It is also true of Gujrat where liquor is freely available if one is willing to pay a little more...However, whn a rule or law is made it should be such that all angles are taken into consideration so that loopholes are reduced and it is people friendly !


After Sweden allowed porne open for anyone, the value of porne gone immediately. Forbidden fruits are perhaps sweeter than openly available. How can you stop anyone from doing things which they find tempting.


Forbidden fruits are indeed sweeter. This reminds me of Five Rifles song- Jab se sarkar ne nashabandi tod di mano ya no mano maine peeni chhhod di- (I stopped drink- believe or not- since government lifted prohibition.

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A man of 24 living in a metro working for a MNC does not necessarily drinks out of frustration but he wants to have some fun if he visits Pubs with friends. He does not need parents there but a government (He selected it) who understands him better than how is he being treated. Such unpractical laws bring frustrations to a young man rather than a frustrated youth going to a pub for a few drinks.


First thing person who is working in MNC is never under 18. What you means with few drinks, soft drink? Remember in beginning drinking wine or smoking all are for fun but later all these will be habit and than addition.
A man of 24 living in a metro working for a MNC does not necessarily drinks out of frustration but he wants to have some fun if he visits Pubs with friends. He does not need parents there but a government (He selected it) who understands him better than how is he being treated. Such unpractical laws bring frustrations to a young man rather than a frustrated youth going to a pub for a few drinks.


First thing person who is working in MNC is never under 18. What you means with few drinks, soft drink? Remember in beginning drinking wine or smoking all are for fun but later all these will be habit and than addition.


You did not read me correctly Anil, I said a man aged 24, (as bars do not allow people under 25). And I mean drinks (hard alcoholic) which are not soft. I think people drinking and smoking maybe they are harming their lives but that certainly is not against rules by the way, I am a non drinker, non smoker by choice but if I use any of these items, that certainly does not break any rules.

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Thank you said by: anil
A man of 24 living in a metro working for a MNC does not necessarily drinks out of frustration but he wants to have some fun if he visits Pubs with friends. He does not need parents there but a government (He selected it) who understands him better than how is he being treated. Such unpractical laws bring frustrations to a young man rather than a frustrated youth going to a pub for a few drinks.


First thing person who is working in MNC is never under 18. What you means with few drinks, soft drink? Remember in beginning drinking wine or smoking all are for fun but later all these will be habit and than addition.


You did not read me correctly Anil, I said a man aged 24, (as bars do not allow people under 25). And I mean drinks (hard alcoholic) which are not soft. I think people drinking and smoking maybe they are harming their lives but that certainly is not against rules by the way, I am a non drinker, non smoker by choice but if I use any of these items, that certainly does not break any rules.


There are only restrictions of age and time on alcoholic drinks and not banned though considered harmful for all. In a liberated society the citizens are best judge to decide what, how much and when is good for them. Government cannot decide for them. However it is okay to make restrictions in interest of whole society. Thus drunken driving is rightly banned. Also misbehavior under influence of drink needs govt intervention. The best way is to remove all restrictions on drink. Most of the after affects of excessive drink are already covered in criminal law. Drunken driving is covered in traffic rules. Misbehavior is also covered in IPC.

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