Has BJP done well in these 4 years?

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Has BJP done well in 4 years or only now results are coming through Scams, conversion of black money to white money in RBI, etc. Or is it just that it is a normal thing in our economy.

First Vijay Mallya, then Nirav Modi, then Jammu & Kashmir Companies evading taxes, then knowing that conversion of black money to white is still happening till 31-03-2018, then stock markets fluctuation, TDP backing its support & no confidence motion.

What is your opinion. Have these incidents come to light for our good to elect a new Party or BJP can be confided with for another term as in past 3 years everything went fine except job creation. What are your thoughts?

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Arunima Singh wrote:

I will say that they have definitely taken a few tough decisions and not the populist ones. These decisions might be good in long run for the country. 

And only and only Modi can take these decision. He have not much ambitions. So he have not any fear that voter will reject him.

I would say for some lower and upper class peipy yes quite a good job . But for middle class people, they are getting bankrupted due to heavy taxes.

Indian population especially the middle class and the petty business owners had gotten used to not paying taxes , thereby making no economical contribution but taking all benefits that are available by falsifying their income and pumping in black money into the system and this is what Mr Modi has targetted .The number of tax paying population doubled in a year after demonetization. Earlier only 3 percent of the population paid taxes while leeching on other tax payers for all their benefits , now around 7 percent do so...it is a small measures but goes a long way 

roza mansoori wrote:

I would say for some lower and upper class peipy yes quite a good job . But for middle class people, they are getting bankrupted due to heavy taxes.

No one is getting bankrupted due to taxes, to say that is quite a negative comment on the government's approach to raise money from within the country itself rather than taking loans from foreign banks! This weekend I had been to Hampi where I met a British woman. She was quite friendly and was chatting with me about various issues, the most prominent one being how Indians crib and complain about taxes, which she felt is negligible compared to what they pay in her country. Except for children's shoes and clothes, each and every thing, no matter how big or small, is taxed and they feel it is their duty to pay them. All these years, due to congressis, we have fallen into the habit of not paying taxes for anything and looking forward to subsidies at the cost of heavy foreign loans. Now that Modi government is working hard to change that, solely so that the country will only benefit from it in the long run, people are talking about bankruptcy due to taxes!

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
roza mansoori wrote:

I would say for some lower and upper class peipy yes quite a good job . But for middle class people, they are getting bankrupted due to heavy taxes.

No one is getting bankrupted due to taxes, to say that is quite a negative comment on the government's approach to raise money from within the country itself rather than taking loans from foreign banks! This weekend I had been to Hampi where I met a British woman. She was quite friendly and was chatting with me about various issues, the most prominent one being how Indians crib and complain about taxes, which she felt is negligible compared to what they pay in her country. Except for children's shoes and clothes, each and every thing, no matter how big or small, is taxed and they feel it is their duty to pay them. All these years, due to congressis, we have fallen into the habit of not paying taxes for anything and looking forward to subsidies at the cost of heavy foreign loans. Now that Modi government is working hard to change that, solely so that the country will only benefit from it in the long run, people are talking about bankruptcy due to taxes!

Some time bitter dose is necessary to cure the problem. We Indian like homeopathy medicines. Still some more hard decision is required.

Even today we only hear of freebies given at the 6 percent tax payers expense to those who don't pay taxes ...farmers get free electricity in many states , low interest loans but absolutely no technogical knowledge given to get the maximum benefit out of farming . The main reador why they commit suicide is because the govts do t really care ..waiving off loans is not a solution 

They too need to be educated and shown the right direction so that the time and effort they put in becomes productive.

I totally agree with Kalyani and Usha. 

All these years, there has been talks about freebies to grab votes. Freebies and policies like reservation are good only for a short duration to fill up some gaps but in long run it makes a country paralyzed and that is what has happened to India. The only thing that should be free in this country should be a good quality education till High School. Not even higher education of University and other courses after High School. Only when you pay, you respect it.

Economic churning through tax payers money is better than begging for funds from world and giving freebies back home. So with this tax burden on us we are becoming more of a respectable country and I am ready to bear that pinch of tax.

Arunima Singh wrote:

I totally agree with Kalyani and Usha. 

All these years, there has been talks about freebies to grab votes. Freebies and policies like reservation are good only for a short duration to fill up some gaps but in long run it makes a country paralyzed and that is what has happened to India. The only thing that should be free in this country should be a good quality education till High School. Not even higher education of University and other courses after High School. Only when you pay, you respect it.

Economic churning through tax payers money is better than begging for funds from world and giving freebies back home. So with this tax burden on us we are becoming more of a respectable country and I am ready to bear that pinch of tax.

True...All people who realize and understand that will not mind paying taxes. However, people who only think of themselves and are out to save money at whatever cost are the ones who will crib about taxes. Slowly and steadily, we have taken a step towards the correct path!

https://in.yahoo.com/finance/news/modi-jaitley-gamed-world-bank-095600198.html

Today this news Article was written claiming that PM & FM together have influenced to change the process of World Bank Rankings of Ease of doing business to make their ranking progress, is it true?

Most of the comments are in favour of Modi saying that there is no evidence shown but only a report written based on their findings.

Is that even possible to influence World Bank rankings?

usha manohar wrote:

Even today we only hear of freebies given at the 6 percent tax payers expense to those who don't pay taxes ...farmers get free electricity in many states , low interest loans but absolutely no technogical knowledge given to get the maximum benefit out of farming . The main reador why they commit suicide is because the govts do t really care ..waiving off loans is not a solution 

They too need to be educated and shown the right direction so that the time and effort they put in becomes productive.

Indeed, this was a thought I and many people over the Country must be having, how can a farmer live just on waiving loans by using government funds, is that even a solution? It is just for Vote Bank. This is such a depressing situation our Country is in. The farmers sections is not at all cared, leave alone waiving loans which also is done just to please them.

There is no real development for farmers happening. That I think may also be due to the reason that village people are not committed enough to use the resources & people who are working in institutions like NABARD and other such farmer supporting departments, they are not working towards farmer welfare.

usha manohar wrote:

Even today we only hear of freebies given at the 6 percent tax payers expense to those who don't pay taxes ...farmers get free electricity in many states , low interest loans but absolutely no technogical knowledge given to get the maximum benefit out of farming . The main reador why they commit suicide is because the govts do t really care ..waiving off loans is not a solution 

They too need to be educated and shown the right direction so that the time and effort they put in becomes productive.

There are other businesses too where people fail and go bankrupt and yet, they stand up again and start all over again. However, in the past couple of decades, farming and everything associated with it, has become or has deliberately been projected as a sensitive issue. Where on one hand, except for a handful few, most farmers indiscriminately use harmful toxic pesticides, genetically modified hybrid seeds which have been proven to be carcinogenic, use oxytocin injections on livestock to increase milk production and also on fruits and vegetables to make them appear better - all of this at the cost of people's health and wellbeing. And then when the yields are low because their own indiscriminate use of pesticides has rendered the soil poor, or the rains wash away the crops, they cry foul and demand that their debts be cleared without paying a single rupee. And all governments try to fall on their feet in a scramble to who will clear the debts first!

Originally, while the traditional farming was used, the farmers were very knowledgeable and a wise lot where the crop farming and seasons cycle was concerned. All that ancient knowledge is now gone thanks to the invasion of foreign pesticide and seed factories and hence, when a problem arises, the farmers do not know what to do as they have no knowledge that their forefathers possessed. So it is must that they are educated and encouraged to turn to traditional methods of farming. Only then this vicious cycle will be broken.

 

Offering freebies is never a solution to the problems being faced in India. Even the previous UPA government resorted to offering freebies as elections approached. People who get these benefits enjoy the most but common man suffers and feels demotivated.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:

Even today we only hear of freebies given at the 6 percent tax payers expense to those who don't pay taxes ...farmers get free electricity in many states , low interest loans but absolutely no technogical knowledge given to get the maximum benefit out of farming . The main reador why they commit suicide is because the govts do t really care ..waiving off loans is not a solution 

They too need to be educated and shown the right direction so that the time and effort they put in becomes productive.

There are other businesses too where people fail and go bankrupt and yet, they stand up again and start all over again. However, in the past couple of decades, farming and everything associated with it, has become or has deliberately been projected as a sensitive issue. Where on one hand, except for a handful few, most farmers indiscriminately use harmful toxic pesticides, genetically modified hybrid seeds which have been proven to be carcinogenic, use oxytocin injections on livestock to increase milk production and also on fruits and vegetables to make them appear better - all of this at the cost of people's health and wellbeing. And then when the yields are low because their own indiscriminate use of pesticides has rendered the soil poor, or the rains wash away the crops, they cry foul and demand that their debts be cleared without paying a single rupee. And all governments try to fall on their feet in a scramble to who will clear the debts first!

Originally, while the traditional farming was used, the farmers were very knowledgeable and a wise lot where the crop farming and seasons cycle was concerned. All that ancient knowledge is now gone thanks to the invasion of foreign pesticide and seed factories and hence, when a problem arises, the farmers do not know what to do as they have no knowledge that their forefathers possessed. So it is must that they are educated and encouraged to turn to traditional methods of farming. Only then this vicious cycle will be broken.

Beneficial farming is possible without using expensive pesticides and hybrid seed. Many farmers is doing it. It is called no cost farming. But government is not supporting it on own level. Government is giving hug subisidy to manufactures of seed and fertilizers. Most of pesticides companies are foreign based. They have good control of government and bureaucracy. They never like it that government focus on zero cost farming.

This topic is old, but I have resurrected it as it has become relevant again. Please read my earlier tweets on this site. and question. Modi lost in the Hindi heartland and there are signs that he will crash out in UP, Punjab, and Haryana. Where will he win? He has no base in southern states or Bengal. Modi will follow Vajpayee. He squandered an excellent chance to lead India for at least 2 decades but as I have stated he is a man with no horizon as he never studied the great philosophers as he has limited command of English and for the first time we had a PM who could not express himself abroad in a proper way. At home, he made a mess by speaking every time in classical Hindi( nothing wrong with it) but the southern states require English that's why Dr. Ambedkar had suggested that English be the only state language. In my view( I am entitled to it) he created misery for the soldiers, farmers, and small businessmen

MG Singh wrote:

This topic is old, but I have resurrected it as it has become relevant again. Please read my earlier tweets on this site. and question. Modi lost in the Hindi heartland and there are signs that he will crash out in UP, Punjab, and Haryana. Where will he win? He has no base in southern states or Bengal. Modi will follow Vajpayee. He squandered an excellent chance to lead India for at least 2 decades but as I have stated he is a man with no horizon as he never studied the great philosophers as he has limited command of English and for the first time we had a PM who could not express himself abroad in a proper way. At home, he made a mess by speaking every time in classical Hindi( nothing wrong with it) but the southern states require English that's why Dr. Ambedkar had suggested that English be the only state language. In my view( I am entitled to it) he created misery for the soldiers, farmers, and small businessmen

I partly agree with that but still feel that you are only highlighting the negative points and not the many reforms that have happened under him . Speaking English is not really required since Nehru/Indira/Rajeev never spoke in English when they came to south but spoke only in Hindi ..Modi is a very committed leader and as of now he is the only choice we have . Rahul Gandhi can never be a national leader because he neither has the capacity nor the caliber.

I have nothing much to say but if knowledge of English was the main criteria for ruling this country then Englishmen were doing it perfectly....cheers. let's talk about development of India through infrastructure and removal of poverty.

suni51 wrote:

I have nothing much to say but if knowledge of English was the main criteria for ruling this country then Englishmen were doing it perfectly....cheers. let's talk about development of India through infrastructure and removal of poverty.

True...if Modi is supposed to be a failure because his English is limited then definitely the people of this country need to get their brains examined. Saying English is needed to run the country is quite ridiculous. Just because Modi does not play to please the crowds but takes some hard hitting decisions because only then the country will benefit in the log run makes people uncomfortable and angry then those people do not deserve good people but they deserve only corrupt fools/

suni51 wrote:

I have nothing much to say but if knowledge of English was the main criteria for ruling this country then Englishmen were doing it perfectly....cheers. let's talk about development of India through infrastructure and removal of poverty.

Yes. There is no doubt that everything we see in India from TamilNadu to Lahore and Punjab like the postal service, high court, everything else is the gift of the British Raj. Read Nirad C Choudhry and one will realize that the Raj brought stability and sanity to India where there were just anarchy and Jizzia tax and what, not earlier. My grandfather spent 40 years in Calcutta and he vouchsafes that the Raj was the best time in India. Can you imagine that it was only during the British Raj that a man could travel from Delhi to Calcutta without fear? and Hindus could live peacefully.

Yes, I agree we need to focus on poverty but the governments including the BJP have failed. We had great hopes with Modi but suicides by farmers have gone on and on.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
suni51 wrote:

I have nothing much to say but if knowledge of English was the main criteria for ruling this country then Englishmen were doing it perfectly....cheers. let's talk about development of India through infrastructure and removal of poverty.

True...if Modi is supposed to be a failure because his English is limited then definitely the people of this country need to get their brains examined. Saying English is needed to run the country is quite ridiculous. Just because Modi does not play to please the crowds but takes some hard hitting decisions because only then the country will benefit in the log run makes people uncomfortable and angry then those people do not deserve good people but they deserve only corrupt fools/

Modi is doing exactly what you say he is not doing. He just plays to the gallery with bombastic speeches and empty promises but every day is not Sunday and now Modi has been ousted from the BJP strongholds of the Hindi heartland called the cow belt. The cow is not going to give victory to Modi.

I will just add a most famous quote by Nirad Choudhry. 

To the memory of the British Empire in India,

Which conferred subjecthood upon us,
But withheld citizenship.
To which yet every one of us threw out the challenge:
"Civis Britannicus sum"
Because all that was good and living within us
Was made, shaped and quickened
By the same British rule.”

Who will like to deny this?

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