Group Discussion Contest - 25th February to 2nd March!

yeah. Unless and until practical classes are increased and practical oriented syllabus is framed, it is very difficult to increase our education standard. Results should not be based on theory ie exams, equal weightage has to be given for practicals as well. A student's practical knowledge has to be tested.

I think the same; let us come out the Mekale system of education and plan some thing of our own. Although we are progressing in many fields but if you see the real ground realities, you will be shocked to see what students can do to get a degree or up to what an extent they can go to cheat the system...
No way, we must do some thing to get further down the hill before this is totally out of our hands.

So it is obvious enough from the views expressed by all that our educational system has some inherent deficiencies which are creating some anomalies with consequent pressures on all who are part of it. A student is as much hassled as his parents for no fault of their own. India is a very big country with its peculiar needs which require urgent and immediate attention. First we have to re-orient our direction to the practical needs of the vast majority. Vocational training institutes must come up in all parts of the country to provide practical training in different branches which hold tremendous employment potential.For the genuinely meritorious wherever they are identified and located, avenues should be created so that their talents flourish to the best gains of the country. Sub-standard private engineering,management and medical colleges should come under strict official scrutiny. These charge exorbitant fees and fleece parents and students and in return these offer substandard education which contribute nothing towards career advancement!

Yeah and the parents must let the students to gain stress less education. As soon as the students enter 9th they are asked to skip everything, ie playing games, watching television, etc. They want their children to be book worms and just to earn good marks. They must realize that only good marks doesn't help, if their children has a good knowledge about the subject even if he doesn't score well, he will have a bright future and a successful career.

Yeah and the parents must let the students to gain stress less education. As soon as the students enter 9th they are asked to skip everything, ie playing games, watching television, etc. They want their children to be book worms and just to earn good marks. They must realize that only good marks doesn't help, if their children has a good knowledge about the subject even if he doesn't score well, he will have a bright future and a successful career.

Yes, I have quoted earlier also.....Fully concentrating in books only will never be a benefit to kids in long term. So, they want some kind of rest and recreational activities. Then only their brain can attain strength to learn more things. So, never switch off cables when your kids reach class 10th or 12th :)

To my humble understanding of the problem existing in the field of education, we need to think in radical terms. As a first step we need to de-brand education.A motley group of businessmen have taken over this role of promoting 'brand' and liberally showering money at the feet of those of governmental authorities to get permission to set up private institutions to 'sell' education! A cursory glance at their activities show that they do not care for quality, don't ensure acceptable lab facilities yet charge whopping fees, fill their pockets with filty lucre and go scot-free! The government must come down heavily on them!

To my humble understanding of the problem existing in the field of education, we need to think in radical terms. As a first step we need to de-brand education.A motley group of businessmen have taken over this role of promoting 'brand' and liberally showering money at the feet of those of governmental authorities to get permission to set up private institutions to 'sell' education! A cursory glance at their activities show that they do not care for quality, don't ensure acceptable lab facilities yet charge whopping fees, fill their pockets with filty lucre and go scot-free! The government must come down heavily on them!

You are right Ceeem.But this education business came in recent past - about ten or fifteen years back.This was because of a the system introduction by the central government namely DPEP.It was followed by SSA and now comes another one.Common people thought that this is not a good practice and they changed the school of their child.This situation was correctly exploited by some business men.

Who else know it better than me about what Abid told...DPEP!!!!
100% correct!!!
Actually implementation of DPEP in Kerala syllabus made parents re-think about the syllabus of the state. It paved the way to more CBSE schools in Kerala. It's a truth.
Abid,
Can you tell a little more about DPEP?
I think, according to it, students should never take books to study in primary classes.....only practical knowledge...ha ha

The ultimate result is that in eigth standard two types of students reached.
Some have a lot of practical experience , but not able to read or write well.The others can read and write well , but have no common sense! Really the teachers were not able to adjust them both.

Still I think that the CBSE and ICSE syllubus children comes out with high marks.But most of them have no sense how to behave , how to act in a situation etc.Local school children are better educated to be a human.

Who else know it better than me about what Abid told...DPEP!!!!
100% correct!!!
Actually implementation of DPEP in Kerala syllabus made parents re-think about the syllabus of the state. It paved the way to more CBSE schools in Kerala. It's a truth.
Abid,
Can you tell a little more about DPEP?
I think, according to it, students should never take books to study in primary classes.....only practical knowledge...ha ha

DPEP means District Primary Education Programme.Children learns through activities rather than taught by the teacher.So teacher also have to be well planned with some activities related to the topic of study.Children will easily catch the topic as it is taught in a dramatic way or through a life experience.(Sandhya,Some expanded this as Dansum Pattum Echchiri Pranthum )

Ha...Dance and Song....with a little madness!!! ha ha

Yes, those looking from outside felt so.But the impact it made among students was very high.They began to think before acting.They became self sufficient at least in some activities like going to a bank and paying the amount.They directly studied the soil type and vegetables to be cultivated in that soil, from the farmers.

But the burnt out children mugged up all these in their mind without any practical sense and application.So it remained in their mind only for years and died there itself.

So am concluding my discussion with this.
Our topic was "Are we producing a generation of burnt-out children?"

Really parents reproduce children and we in turn produce from them a generation of burnt out children.

The main reason for this is the education system that we follow.

The best solution is to give them opportunity in extra curricular activities like Scouts & Guides , NSS,NCC etc with equal priority of class room education.

Also they should be given or trained some social experience during the studentship itself.

Thanks to all who encouraged to put more and more ideas.

So am concluding my discussion with this.
Our topic was "Are we producing a generation of burnt-out children?"

Really parents reproduce children and we in turn produce from them a generation of burnt out children.

The main reason for this is the education system that we follow.

The best solution is to give them opportunity in extra curricular activities like Scouts & Guides , NSS,NCC etc with equal priority of class room education.

Also they should be given or trained some social experience during the studentship itself.

Thanks to all who encouraged to put more and more ideas.

Are you canvassing parents to send their children to scouts and guides :P :angry:

[quote]To my humble understanding of the problem existing in the field of education, we need to think in radical terms. As a first step we need to de-brand education.A motley group of businessmen have taken over this role of promoting 'brand' and liberally showering money at the feet of those of governmental authorities to get permission to set up private institutions to 'sell' education! A cursory glance at their activities show that they do not care for quality, don't ensure acceptable lab facilities yet charge whopping fees, fill their pockets with filty lucre and go scot-free! The government must come down heavily on them[/quote]

Very true! But I think we cannot blame only the educational institutions in this regard. It is the lack of vision on our part as well, almost all the parents want to make their children an engineer or a doctor or an IT professional. They are refusing to look beyond the established realms of professions. Very few parents really take the interests of their children to heart and allow them to do what they really want!

There are also so many different avenues regarding professions taht can be practiced, but no one is willing to take a step towards those, all have but one goal in mind, to get a professional degree and start earning money by going abroad!

So it's time to conclude and what else I can add as I have tried to bare it all in the way that's possible on my part. I thank all of you for going through my posts and giving your feedback, thanks once again!!

Let me conclude this group discussion with my own points. Through the discussions, it is clear that present educational system has many drawbacks. Yet, we are not able to provide a better one. But, as parents, what we can do is not to pressurize our kids to see our dreams fulfilled through them. We should try to see their dreams through our eyes. If so both ours and our kids’ pressures will be decreased considerably and it is sure, he will achieve his goals with our support, not our pressure. It is most important responsibility of parents to make their kids a better citizen than a better professional. If so, not only parents but also the country can expect many contributions from a kid in return. Also, make your kid mentally strong by giving him good advices and guiding him through proper channels. Give him both good education and better and peaceful atmosphere at home itself, with a smile in your faces than a face filled with over ambitions and tensions. It will of course prompt your kid to study better and fulfill his parents’ ambitions up to some extend because education is to be attained by one himself, not by pressure of parents or situations.

I have said enough, and would like to stick to what I already have said. I am not satisfied with present form of education, which is not knowledge oriented but producing degree holders. I know so many fresh pass out from different business schools that cannot draft an application and go to typists to do the job for them. I know so many software engineers who are not aware about ROM and RAM. There is no use of education like this which makes one a matter of laughter.
This is high time they really do some thing about the present system and change it for good as soon as possible.

I have said enough, and would like to stick to what I already have said. I am not satisfied with present form of education, which is not knowledge oriented but producing degree holders. I know so many fresh pass out from different business schools that cannot draft an application and go to typists to do the job for them. I know so many software engineers who are not aware about ROM and RAM. There is no use of education like this which makes one a matter of laughter.
This is high time they really do some thing about the present system and change it for good as soon as possible.

We can't get everything perfect Sunil. We have to choose one among the best and do our best. That's all.

No nothing would ever get perfect but this should be worthwhile at least.