How corruption can be eradicated from our India?

You cannot blame them alone. Each and every one is responsible for that. For example: If any of our relatives has been admitted in an emergency ward in an hospital and we cannot go and see them after visiting hours however we give some money to the security guard or buy him some stuffs and we go and visit them.This is also corruption.

We speak only in higher level however we forget that corruption starts from the lower level and reaches a higher state. What i meant is giving some tips to a waiter or a server is also a corruption activity.

Pradeep Kumar Nanda wrote[quote]Even police are corrupted, infact they are one of the most corrupted people in our country.Police are nothing but terrorist covered with legal weapon to conduct crime freely without any fear.Corruption is like a spider's web, where everybody is interlinked with one another. One has to kill the spider(corruption) to stop it from spreading. The question is how?[/quote]

We have to go to the very roots of why the police are corrupted!! There is a glaring gap between the kind of work the cops are expected to do and the compensation that they are given for it! These people are on toes during their entire career span, the pressure increases during the numerous festivals and special events. During Ganpati festivals, the cops in Maharashtra barely even manage to go hole to eat a decent meal or sleep for even four hours for 10 days! They have no time to spend with their families, to take of their ailing children, parents or spouses, to share in the happy moments of the family. In return, what do they get? Measly sums of money which are mere peanuts in face of increasing expenses. Their children do not get to go to good schools or get any proper toys or clothes.

So I really do not blame the cops if they resort to taking bribes! We make a huge issue about it but we keep our mouths shut and pay whopping amounts of bribes when we want to get our personal work done in many government office or sumply to avoid paying double the amount on taxes or service charges.

[quote]It is not right to say that the country is running due to the negligible number of honest. In spite of corruption, we have advanced in all fields. In fact, the corrupt work more and day and night whereas the dead honest are satisfied with small salary and will not work more. Corruption has the merit of speeding up the administrative machinery. This does not harm all. If all were harmed, corruption would have ended long ago. Corruption favors the rich who afford bribe and harms the poor and principled. One who can and is ready to bribe always gets done what he wants. Food and drug adulteration play with health of people and need be dealt with first.

It is the poor and the few honest who suffer most. It is they who should struggle and launch strong movement against corruption. [/quote]

The kind of corruption that you have mentioned Gulshan, I think, has arisen from lack of responsibility and accountability. Otherwise, we did not need to pay bribes to keep the administrative machinery running smoothly.
I want quote here the example of Japan, compared to India, a very tiny country. Japan was completely devastated in the World War II as a result of the bombings on Nagasaki and Hiroshima which happened in 1945. But the entire Japanese population, instead being beaten back and defeated, stood up as one and resolved to rise out of its ashes like a Phoenix. And they did! The Japanese worked day and night, slogged and slogged, and within no time built up their nation from scratch, and today is an extremely powerful economically and technologically advanced country which no one can afford to neglect or ignore. Is there corruption involved? In small extents, there may be! But the magnitude of corruptions that are seen everywhere in India, such type of incidents are missing in Japan!

What could be the reason then that we are unable to throw off the vices of corruption in India?? The only main reason that comes to my mind is the inability or unwillingness to slog for honest money! We want to earn a quick buck and fast! Unless this mentality is changed and we will ourselves to really work for money, then only can we see some changes!

Kalyani wrotes:

[quote]We have to go to the very roots of why the police are corrupted!! There is a glaring gap between the kind of work the cops are expected to do and the compensation that they are given for it! These people are on toes during their entire career span, the pressure increases during the numerous festivals and special events. During Ganpati festivals, the cops in Maharashtra barely even manage to go hole to eat a decent meal or sleep for even four hours for 10 days! They have no time to spend with their families, to take of their ailing children, parents or spouses, to share in the happy moments of the family. In return, what do they get? Measly sums of money which are mere peanuts in face of increasing expenses. Their children do not get to go to good schools or get any proper toys or clothes. [/quote]

[quote]So I really do not blame the cops if they resort to taking bribes! We make a huge issue about it but we keep our mouths shut and pay whopping amounts of bribes when we want to get our personal work done in many government office or sumply to avoid paying double the amount on taxes or service charges.
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There are other people who are working in same stress at similar salary even less then what police people are getting. That doesn't mean that they should go on for taking bribes to meet their livelihood.

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There are other people who are working in same stress at similar salary even less then what police people are getting. That doesn't mean that they should go on for taking bribes to meet their livelihood.[/quote]

Pradeem that was a symbolic example that I have used to elaborate my point of view. But undeniably, even though there may be similar people working in similarly meagre salaries, their lives are not in limbo as the policemen's are!

@ Kalyani

You justifed the fact that policemen taking bribe is correct because of the meagre salary they are getting; that's the foundation of corruption, which should not be encouraged at any cost.

[quote]@ Kalyani

You justifed the fact that policemen taking bribe is correct because of the meagre salary they are getting; that's the foundation of corruption, which should not be encouraged at any cost.[/quote]

Pradeep, perhaps I didn't make it quite clear! I am not justifying that the taking of bribes by police is CORRECT, but it is the REASON for them resorting to taking bribes, at least on the lower levels it is so! Also, we always talk of not encouraging corruption, but in our daily lives we are the ones that encourage corruption on all walks of our lives.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
[quote][quote]It is not right to say that the country is running due to the negligible number of honest. In spite of corruption, we have advanced in all fields. In fact, the corrupt work more and day and night whereas the dead honest are satisfied with small salary and will not work more. Corruption has the merit of speeding up the administrative machinery. This does not harm all. If all were harmed, corruption would have ended long ago. Corruption favors the rich who afford bribe and harms the poor and principled. One who can and is ready to bribe always gets done what he wants. Food and drug adulteration play with health of people and need be dealt with first.

It is the poor and the few honest who suffer most. It is they who should struggle and launch strong movement against corruption. [/quote]

The kind of corruption that you have mentioned Gulshan, I think, has arisen from lack of responsibility and accountability. Otherwise, we did not need to pay bribes to keep the administrative machinery running smoothly.
I want quote here the example of Japan, compared to India, a very tiny country. Japan was completely devastated in the World War II as a result of the bombings on Nagasaki and Hiroshima which happened in 1945. But the entire Japanese population, instead being beaten back and defeated, stood up as one and resolved to rise out of its ashes like a Phoenix. And they did! The Japanese worked day and night, slogged and slogged, and within no time built up their nation from scratch, and today is an extremely powerful economically and technologically advanced country which no one can afford to neglect or ignore. Is there corruption involved? In small extents, there may be! But the magnitude of corruptions that are seen everywhere in India, such type of incidents are missing in Japan!

What could be the reason then that we are unable to throw off the vices of corruption in India?? The only main reason that comes to my mind is the inability or unwillingness to slog for honest money! We want to earn a quick buck and fast! Unless this mentality is changed and we will ourselves to really work for money, then only can we see some changes![/quote]


The cause of corruption is that our people are individualist and family oriented as contrasted to Japanese, who are national minded. Corruption is a disease and we need to diagonalize it properly. We cannot fight the disease at one go. So, we need to look for the type that is most dangerous. It goes without saying that adulteration of food and drugs is most dangerous and this need be tackled first.

Generally, the people are not very corrupt and also not dead honest. They simply follow the routine of corruption. Mostly, the govt employees do not receive bribe for doing any wrong. They just receive the bribe for speedily doing the job. Not the employees but the general public take initiative to pay the so called speed money. There are also unscrupulous persons who will even do the wrong for getting extra income. This is more serious. Howsoever bad corruption is, this is just transfer of funds, makes services costly and babus richer. The giver and taker of bribe both gain and so all are happy. The relatively poor are the most victimized.

Hence the question- who and how will fight corruption. Adulteration of drugs and food, substandard construction of building etc. harm all and must be tackled first. Embezzlement of cash and defrauding the exchequer like the 2G scam etc are also most heinous and must be fought with full might. But the cases of speed money for petty jobs are less important and giving more importance to these will indirectly benefit the big sharks.

I accept to kalayani's point of view that police are drove to get bribe and spending some small amount of time with the family.Some people to get into the police department itself give a huge sum of bribe? Am i right?

Gulshan, you are right! As people we are more family oriented and individualist unlike Japanese! Our nationalism awakes only in the wake of 15th August and 26th January and during cricket matches with Pakistan. On other days, we are only busy making lives better for ourselves and our family! BUt in the process we completely forget that these individual units called family make up the society and the nation and our lives are greatly influenced and even compromised because of our shortsightedness or unwillingness to see and understand the greater cause.

Also, the roots also go a long way! After we gained independence in 1947, corruption was so rampant in the congress even then that Gandhiji is known to have advised Pandit Nehru to dissolve the party then and there. But he ignored it!

Pradeep, you are right although it is not only the police but even in zilla parishad run schools, if you want to get a job as a teacher you need to pay lakhs of rupees as bribe. Obviously, such breed of teachers cannot be expected to inculcate the values of honesty and integrity among young children!

Deivigan wrote:
[quote]I accept to kalayani's point of view that police are drove to get bribe and spending some small amount of time with the family.Some people to get into the police department itself give a huge sum of bribe? Am i right?[/quote]

There is lot of truth in this. There are two parties to bribe- giver and taker. The giver is interested in getting some thing out or turn or irregularly. He pays for this. The entry to jobs lucrative in the sense of illicit money is also costly. There is price even for getting choice postings and so called sensitive posts.

I have to point out a basic reason for corruption. Our political system is costly. You need crores of rupees to win an election. A minister or a legislator will definitely treat the amount spent in elections as an investment which must give return. The politician will recover the amount spent on election through unfair means.

It is necessary to introduce state funding for elections. The state should finance the political parties for elections. No politician should be allowed to spend even a single rupee individually. also independent candidate should not be allowed. In a party based democracy independents including those from small parties play havoc with the system and add to corrupt practices.

Come guys just think Gulshan wrote:If you spend crores of rupees for an election and it is an investment and he wants in return? Is it some kind of joke or what? "Rich gets richer and Poor gets poor"

We want funding for elections what for? too loot those money also and to have fun. These politicians invest huge money no doubt on that however how he takes back the amount he invested?

Deivigan wrote:
[quote]We want funding for elections what for? too loot those money also and to have fun. These politicians invest huge money no doubt on that however how he takes back the amount he invested?[/quote]

Only rich people can spend crore of rupees in elections and win. They consider the amount spent on election as investment, which they must recover along with premium or interest on the original investment.

State funding will enable individuals with meager resources to contest and win elections. The political parties will get funds and spend in the elections. Since the individual politicians will not spend anything from their pocket, they need no indulge in corrupt practices to recover the money spent on elections. The current system favors the multimillionaires, who consider the political system as an investment or business. The real honest social minded individuals have no room in the existing system. Hence, it is proposed that state may give funds to recognized political parties, who will spend and render account to election commissioner. The individual contestant must mot spend even a single rupee.

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Corruption can be rooted out only if you have selfless leaders like singapore's Lee Kuan Yew who turned a small city-state without any natural resources in to a wealthy country.He was a visionary who evolved policies with Asian values and inculcated self-discipline in its people, which are followed even today.

Yes,
Corrupt less leaders are to be there to lead a nation to prosperity.Singapore is enjoying his leadership.

Deivigan wrote:
[quote]Come guys just think Gulshan wrote:If you spend crores of rupees for an election and it is an investment and he wants in return? Is it some kind of joke or what? "Rich gets richer and Poor gets poor"[/quote]

This is not joke. Just find out independently how much a candidate spends on Lok Sabha or parliamentary elections. An M.P. or MLA will definitely recover the cost of contesting elections by unfair means. This will set in a chain of corruption. The parliamentary system howsoever commendable is costly, favors the rich and contains roots and causes of corruption. By introducing state funding of elections and banning individual expenditure on elections, we may curb corruption in high places and consequently in lower bureaucracy also.

Secondly, we need to curb individualism and family bias in political and administrative affairs and promote nationalism and patriotism. Gradually, corruption could be eradicated. Also measures like frequent transfers and postings of bureaucrats and short tenure of political posts may help fighting corruption. There should also be continuous and more effective audit of personal accounts and bank accounts of politicians and bureaucrats.

@ Abid

At Present i am staying in Singapore and i know how people are enjoying here. They have really have a good leader and they respect him as he really made Singapore a good and a developed country in a short period of time however have one thing in mind Singapore is a small country. India is a big nation and it is really difficult to eradicate corruption. To eradicate we must have very hard sentences or severe punishment. On spot judgement and no cases or no re appealing in supreme courts.

Eradication of corruption will be a difficult task however we can minimize the level of corruption. Moreover India is a big nation and it will be really difficult to stop it on spot. Everyone wants to earn money quickly and gets settled and never worry about others. Their main goal is to earn money they never think about Loyalty or Honesty. To earn money they even choose a wrong path which affects the nation and also his fellow brothers and sisters.