What the Rise of Narendra Modi Means to India

It is no longer true that who rules UP rules India. Both Congress and BJP are out of power in UP since long but ruled India. @Gulshan is right that BJP garners a good chunk of votes because of polarization. @Rambabu for a change has shown right approach to evaluation of BJP in future by electorate. Ultimately it is how the electorate perceive that matters.

I talk facts. I don't believe in blind supporting of any political party.

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

I beg to differ with you. Please don't expect BJP sans RSS. Do you think people are not aware of the fact about BJP -RSS association ? Had the people thought, combination of BJP and RSS, a sacrilege, they wouldn't have elected the BJP with an overwhelming majority to rule the country.

 

rambabu wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

I beg to differ with you. Please don't expect BJP sans RSS. Do you think people are not aware of the fact about BJP -RSS association ? Had the people thought, combination of BJP and RSS, a sacrilege, they wouldn't have elected the BJP with an overwhelming majority to rule the country.

I remember that Vajpayee had taken a different stand on Babri demolition. Hence he was considered liberal and distant from the extreme communal and fascist forces and accepted by allies. Even now, the BJP leaders distance themselves from core ideology of R.S.S. in Kerala, Goa and Arunachal Pradesh. Recently, a BJP leader told in Kerala election rally that eating beef was no issue. This is in sharp contrast with the official stand taken by RSS/BJP. 

If BJP comes out of RSS camp, acceptability among all sections of people and communities would rise. 

 

 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

I beg to differ with you. Please don't expect BJP sans RSS. Do you think people are not aware of the fact about BJP -RSS association ? Had the people thought, combination of BJP and RSS, a sacrilege, they wouldn't have elected the BJP with an overwhelming majority to rule the country.

I remember that Vajpayee had taken a different stand on Babri demolition. Hence he was considered liberal and distant from the extreme communal and fascist forces and accepted by allies. Even now, the BJP leaders distance themselves from core ideology of R.S.S. in Kerala, Goa and Arunachal Pradesh. Recently, a BJP leader told in Kerala election rally that eating beef was no issue. This is in sharp contrast with the official stand taken by RSS/BJP. 

If BJP comes out of RSS camp, acceptability among all sections of people and communities would rise. 

It's bound to have differences in the same Party. But it doesn't mean BJP got dissociated with RSS.. A lot has happened since Vajpayi's time and Modi's time. Now the present philosophy of BJP is,  BJP- RSS association alone can deal with the most communal party of India, Congress. Which is why, BJP - RSS combination will continue for the betterment of this country.

 

 

 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

 

BJP's identity lies with RSS and other Patriotic Hindu groups and people who vote for BJP are quite happy with it. The problem with other party supporters is that they think their party is perfect and BJP should become one like them. I don't see why they should even try to emulate one of those communal parties that go in the guise of secularism. BJP supporters are happy with its links with a disciplined and service minded party like RSS . In fact RSS and its ideologies are an asset to the party .

Joke of the day: A die hard member says he does not blindly support any party! 

BJP was built on the strong foundations of RSS, which is known for discipline and Hard work.It is due to this combination , BJP could introduce a plethora of Welfare measures which include Make in India, Swatch Bharat, Creation of Jobs, to name a few. The aim of the BJP Government is to make Bharat Self sufficient. Hence, I'm of the firm opinion that the BJP and RSS combination alone can make India walk through the Course of development.

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.   

 

I too agree that multi party system is good for the democracy, not too many parties but a few that give good competition to the ruling party and keep it on its toes, or else it would be dictatorship.  So, in that respect all national parties have their own importance and have a role to play in keeping the economy healthy.

India is a Democracy having Multi Party system. Hence the question of Dictatorship will not arise. Despite this fact, one of the so called National parties Congress failed miserably in keeping the Ruling party on toes. On the contrary, it is stalling the Parliamentary proceedings with baseless and flimsy reasons instead of contributing  with positive approach.

usha manohar wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

According to one member when BJP wins there is always a sinister reason for this whereas when his own favorite arty wins it is win for democracy, truly laughable especially since the party is slowly disintegrating itself because of their communal agenda and misrule and BJP is called a communal party !!!!

BJP is a nation level party. we definitely need multi party system. so BJP is also to be there. Voters must have a choice. So far as BJP is called communal, the obvious reason is association with R.S.S./ allied organizations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajarangf dal ertc.  All democratic minded citizens would like that there are alternatives for voters. BJP as an alternative to Congress is welcome.  However, BJP needs to disassociate from the rabid fascist outfit headed by R.S.S.  BJP independent of R.S.S. will be most welcome to all.

There is no question of dissociation from RSS which is the parent organization and it is NOT repeat NOT a Fascist organization.   

 

I too agree that multi party system is good for the democracy, not too many parties but a few that give good competition to the ruling party and keep it on its toes, or else it would be dictatorship.  So, in that respect all national parties have their own importance and have a role to play in keeping the economy healthy.

Calling RSS as Fascist organization is a folly.  my question is why BJP should get  itself  dissociated from RSS. Having radical principles and views with a view to see the Nation stand among the advanced countries is Fascism ? The combo of, BJP - RSS has released this country from the shackles of Communal parties. Nation is grateful to both BJP and RSS.

Since when have you usurped the right to speak on behalf of the nation and its people. Nation has far too many people who may not agree with your views. Speak for yourself only please.

My voice is the echo of the Nation's voice that had chosen a Great ruler, Narendra Modi. Every Indian of this country can join.

Sychphancy at its worst or best. Self appointed cheer leader.

Some are of Ostrich mentality. Such people fear to face the realities around them. This makes them hide behind the facts. People with realistic attitude will laugh at them. They are fit to work as clowns in a Circus company.

It is important to understand what Fascism is. I have written extensively on Fascism and had a first-hand view of it in Italy as well. Fascism is a special philosophy and exists from Roman times. i shall give my ref to Fascism. Those who talk of RSSbeing a Fascist organization, I am afraid do not know what Fascism is. On this subject i shall not cross swords with people who parrot "fascism" not knowing what it is. 

rambabu wrote:

Some are of Ostrich mentality. Such people fear to face the realities around them. This makes them hide behind the facts. People with realistic attitude will laugh at them. They are fit to work as clowns in a Circus company.

 One must be knowledeable and pragmatic in a discussion, which I am afraid is not the case with a few. Just imagine people calling RSS a fascist organization, I could die laughing on a bed of nails. At least read about Fascism please.