Can there be another division of India on religious lines?

vijay wrote:

85% of the population is under a common code. Has it helped ?

it has to be 100% like in other nations, only then the effect will be seen. Why should India be the lone nation in the world with this dichotomy. Can you point even one country in world which follows dual civil code in world ? This is handiwork of Nehru and Congress and an insult to Indian intellect.

It is incorrect to say that there is a uniform civil code even for 85%. There is no common code even for Hindus. There are two schools- Dayabhag in Bengal and Assam and Mitakshra in rest of India. Both these are part of Hindu law. 

The entire talk of uniform civil code in meaningless. BJP has been talking about so called common code in past. But while in power, they have understood the folly and no longer even talk about this. 

There is already common and same law for all citizens in civil, commercial, criminal matters that affect all uniformly.  Personal law is something that is a matter of indoor management of marital customs and affairs, succession and similar matters.  In name of so called common civil code, the real intention is to force the Hindu religion, tradition and customs on minorities.  This is neither feasible nor desirable. In fact, the BJP led government also has no such plan. Then there is no sense in discussing such issue.  

For information of Nehru baiters, it was he who was a champion of uniform civil code but faced opposition from many influential leaders of that time and thus settled for Hindu Code Bill which have equality to women. Then in 1955 Special Marraiges Act was passed under which any person of any religion could marry and it was against polygamy. Constantly blaming Nehru with no knowledge of facts betrays an agenda and cultivated bias.

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

It is incorrect to say that there is a uniform civil code even for 85%. There is no common code even for Hindus. There are two schools- Dayabhag in Bengal and Assam and Mitakshra in rest of India. Both these are part of Hindu law. 

The entire talk of uniform civil code in meaningless. BJP has been talking about so called common code in past. But while in power, they have understood the folly and no longer even talk about this. 

There is already common and same law for all citizens in civil, commercial, criminal matters that affect all uniformly.  Personal law is something that is a matter of indoor management of marital customs and affairs, succession and similar matters.  In name of so called common civil code, the real intention is to force the Hindu religion, tradition and customs on minorities.  This is neither feasible nor desirable. In fact, the BJP led government also has no such plan. Then there is no sense in discussing such issue.

I sometimes wonder whether you believe in what you comment. Can you please elucidate that in ALL countries there is a uniform civil code. Does this mean that they are enforcing Christianity on minorities like in Europe and USA. Come man ! dont get paranoid about Hinduatva 

Modi and the BJP for the game of votes have compromised on some basic issues and this cannot be accepted. The BJP manifesto talked of removing special status of Kashmir and uniform civil code. In two years Modi government's performance here is zero and it shows that Modi is missing his date with history.  No, excuse for it.

I have a feeling that what Modi promises he delivers...the ground realities are bound to be different and it is difficult to put a time frame. I am sure they are working towards it because Kashmir is an emotional issues for all Indians more so for BJP and it's supporters.

MG Singh wrote:

Modi and the BJP for the game of votes have compromised on some basic issues and this cannot be accepted. The BJP manifesto talked of removing special status of Kashmir and uniform civil code. In two years Modi government's performance here is zero and it shows that Modi is missing his date with history.  No, excuse for it.

This is really creditable if Modi has removed such notorious items from BJP agenda. But I have a feeling that BJP is waiting for getting single party two third majority in center and states. Till then they will keep a low profile. Basically, Vajpayee and Modi are not different. Vajayee had just razor thin majority and BJP as a single party had no majority. So he was liberal. Modi appears hardcore as he has some more majority- single party majority.  

As is being made to believe, Nehru was definitely not a champion for uniform civil codes but some civil rights groups and progressive minds were in fact all for it and he did not oppose it nor did he do anything to take it further ! However, Goa is the only state that has introduced uniform civil code for all citizens.

http://www.lawctopus.com/academike/need-uniform-civil-code-india/

It is a trversity of truth to say that Nehru was not champion of uniform civil code. The truth is he was but had to setle only for Hindu Code bill due to opposition from within his own party also. Being a democrat he accepted. You may not like the man that is your personal choice but do not rob him of his credit and deny the truth. In doing so a very low attitude comes out . As  a teacher you must support the truth irrespective of personal bias. Goa continued the Portugese common civil code and for that they should be complimented. One more plus point they had was the population was already used to a common civil code.Who is stopping BJP from bringing  Common Civil Code Bill. Let her do so and stop blaming.

The fact of the matter was that Nehru did not bring in Uniform civil code because  of musilm opposition...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/68-years-after-Independence-consensus-on-uniform-civil-code-remains-elusive/articleshow/49397679.cms

I have stated that Nehru wanted a Uniform Civil Code but could not do so because of opposition. He did it for Hindus. Instead of praising him for this courageous step you enjoy condemning him. You should condemn the PMs who followed him till date for lacking courage. Nehru's action was not final. It can be done today also. Let it be done muslims or no muslims.Have guts do it.

Where is the courageous step in giving something that would have made this nation much more secure simply to please the then 8% of the population? It shows him as a dithering leader who not only was not capable of taking any firm decisions good for the country but made sure that no one else did so as long as his party was in power and now things have become so bad because of their communal policies that it is an uphill task. But, no matter what I sincerely hope that Modi gets to rule for at least 2 more terms to undo all the wrong doings of the previous governments.. We have had enough of the so called democratic, psuedo secular rules ..

http://india.wikia.com/wiki/Uniform_civil_code

It was not done to please any section as you are alleging. The common civil code was opposed by tall leaders like Rajendra Prasad and Sardar Patel. It was to be done when acceptability would be higher. You are only condemning without facts . Let Modi get as many terms as people will give him. But for common code even one term is enough. Will should be there.

usha manohar wrote:

The fact of the matter was that Nehru did not bring in Uniform civil code because  of musilm opposition...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/68-years-after-Independence-consensus-on-uniform-civil-code-remains-elusive/articleshow/49397679.cms

 This is a fact

 

It is work known fact, what is point in repeating it again and again.He could not get consensus and passed only the Hindu Code Bill. But what stopped following PMs bringing UCC. Present government Law Minister told SC that UCC cannot be brought till there is consensus. Then why blame Nehru and sing praises of present set up I can not understand.

yes why to sing praises on past, its better to move forward and make our future beautiful 

Our present stands on what the past was, we can see it in the continued battle for Kashmir which is a leftover from the past. It can neither be repaired nor erased but we have to put up with enormous amount of expenditure, so many unnecessary deaths and so on..There is a saying that old sins cast long shadows !

By your analogy then the future stands on the present. So if in present we are all the time brooding on the past then in future we will continue to do the same. Break the cycle and be positive is what I am trying to advocate, but you see in me all things which I am not ranging from communal  to sikular and god knows what all.

usha manohar wrote:

Our present stands on what the past was, we can see it in the continued battle for Kashmir which is a leftover from the past. It can neither be repaired nor erased but we have to put up with enormous amount of expenditure, so many unnecessary deaths and so on..There is a saying that old sins cast long shadows !

Yes babu don't know that DNA transfer in next generation. We get these problem from past and still these are with us.

vijay wrote:

By your analogy then the future stands on the present. So if in present we are all the time brooding on the past then in future we will continue to do the same. Break the cycle and be positive is what I am trying to advocate, but you see in me all things which I am not ranging from communal  to sikular and god knows what all.

I call a certain party communal, sikular etc etc and I thought you are not particular about any  political party , so it is not meant for you ...However, I totally agree that there is no point in brooding about the past unless it comes up on its own and creates a problem, at which stage we have to deal with it and automatically everything that is related to it comes alive