Donald Trump is presently the leader in the race for Republican nomination for president. He has fearlessly articulated some strong views on Muslims. He has called a halt to Muslims entering USA. Round up of all Muslims in America for verification and severe action against
Muslim terror groups including reprisels. Most Americans support him. Can India take leaf from Trumps book? Can the anti terror laws scrapped as appeasement be restored?
suni51 wrote:The first thing that Trump will do is he will abolish H1B Visa that allows US based companies appoint skilled workers from other countries to popularize himself among Americans.
Looking at this from the American point of view it can be apreciated. India will suffer, but the obvious lesson is nation first. This is where we lag.My American GF is very happy with this, though it does not stop her from a holiday at the Mercure Resort with me.
MG Singh wrote:suni51 wrote:The first thing that Trump will do is he will abolish H1B Visa that allows US based companies appoint skilled workers from other countries to popularize himself among Americans.
Looking at this from the American point of view it can be apreciated. India will suffer, but the obvious lesson is nation first. This is where we lag.My American GF is very happy with this, though it does not stop her from a holiday at the Mercure Resort with me.
This lesson does not work for Indians. Some of the so-called "Intellectuals" take pride in talking against interest of India as they consider it will get them International recognition or even Awards.
suni51 wrote:MG Singh wrote:suni51 wrote:The first thing that Trump will do is he will abolish H1B Visa that allows US based companies appoint skilled workers from other countries to popularize himself among Americans.
Looking at this from the American point of view it can be apreciated. India will suffer, but the obvious lesson is nation first. This is where we lag.My American GF is very happy with this, though it does not stop her from a holiday at the Mercure Resort with me.
This lesson does not work for Indians. Some of the so-called "Intellectuals" take pride in talking against interest of India as they consider it will get them International recognition or even Awards.
I agree with you. There is an excellent book which I have just read by Wendy Doniger titled " The Hindus, an Alternative History". In this book she states that educated Hindus are in the habit of denigrating Hinduism. these educated Indians seem to have a problem with Hindu India, but not with Muslim or Christian nations.
This is where we must take lessons from Donald Trump. He talks of " making America Great". Why cant we do the same talking without fear and vote bank politics. Donald is not afraid to antagonize the Hispanics, Moslems and otehrs who he feels are pulling America down. He has just opined that " muslims hate us". here we have politics of fear and as pointed out by Wendy Doniger in her book, the Hindu elite is itself denigrating Hinduism. So sad.
If leaders put nation before all else, everything falls in line ! Here in India, we dont even have a uniform civil code , add to that the caste factor and of course the minority community, I doubt if other minorities are really considered given their small number. The country can go to dogs as long as Netas get elected by hook or crook ,,
usha manohar wrote:If leaders put nation before all else, everything falls in line ! Here in India, we dont even have a uniform civil code , add to that the caste factor and of course the minority community, I doubt if other minorities are really considered given their small number. The country can go to dogs as long as Netas get elected by hook or crook ,,
This is the bane of India, where Making India great is nothing. Vote banks is everything even if the constitution is violated. The denialof India as a Hindu nation is another.
With the kind of love Trump is seizing upon to promote his candidacy will America survive ? He is packaging xenophobia, jingoism in the crudest manner possible negating all values America stands for. For example he
blasts his probable democrat rival Clinton like this: If she can not satisfy her husband how can she satisfy America! Please friends do not fall for pseudos! I would be hating myself if I have to take lessons of patriotism from Trump. He has been at this abominable game for all his selfish gains.
Look at it from the Arican pint of view. There is palpable anger in America and Trump is articulating that. Picking up Trumps words selectively is not right for an Indian where worse things are said. In Indian elections. I don't want to clutter this page by quoting some most crude and offensive comments. Remember, he is NOT a lover of India, but his fearless call of a spade is a spade needed here.
Further the election results for nomination are out today for 5 states and Donald Trump is way ahead of his rivals. This shows he has big support among Americans and his rhetoric about Muslims is accepted. This is the Lesson to draw.One should not forget that his latest statement is that he will like Indians to continue to study in US universities as he wants intelligent people to come to USA.
chinmoymukherjee wrote:With the kind of love Trump is seizing upon to promote his candidacy will America survive ? He is packaging xenophobia, jingoism in the crudest manner possible negating all values America stands for. For example he
blasts his probable democrat rival Clinton like this: If she can not satisfy her husband how can she satisfy America! Please friends do not fall for pseudos! I would be hating myself if I have to take lessons of patriotism from Trump. He has been at this abominable game for all his selfish gains.
Hi mate ! are you aware of any politician anywhere ( including Gandhi) who do NOT play abominable selfish games to win? So why hold Trump guilty. In any case he has won 4 out of 5 states today and is well on way for nomination. Cheers to him!
From what I have gathered from my son, living in new York and other relatives Trump is loved by s certain section of American society which is racist and flashy like him, apparently there are some Indians too who support him. But the vast majority of educated youngsters he is simply a joke r who cannot be ignored nor accepted
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