IS ALL SAINT AND SADHU IN INDIA ARE REALLY THE GOD, IF NOT THEN WHY THE PEOPLE OF INDIA BELIEVE IN ALL THESE ???

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

rambabu wrote:

rambabu wrote:

@ Sunil

Karl Marx said Religion is Opium of the masses. As you said Babas like Ptthar Baba etc are the creations of man. These Babas are demi Gods

 

Incidentally There is a man famous as patharbaba in our area. People believe if he hits someone with a stone all his wishes will be fulfilled. Same is true for Lakkadbaba, he hits people with a bamboo and people who get hit feel blessed in anticipation. 

 

 "paani wale baba", kicks and pulling his women devotees by the hair.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/baba-kicking-women-caught-on-camera/132954

 

 So sick and disgusting!!! I fail to understand the mentality of women who tolerate his stupid kicking and hair pulling with such fervour and enthusiasm.

 

There was a famous farshiwale baba in Nashik (farshi means a tile) who used to keep a tile on his head and 'diagnose' ailments and troubles of his devotees and prescribe medicines/cures accordingly. Recently, his fraud was exposed and now he is cooling his heels somewhere.

 

 

 LOL, I remember my father telling about someone known to him deciding to try his luck at being a godman, this was in the sixties.He went about it in a very thorough manner, keeping an assistant outside who would ask all the relevant questions to the women devotees and then pull strings so that the baba would know who and what their requirements were and apparently he was quite successful, made some money and vanished when things began to get revealed. The sad part is how gullible people are when it is a matter of religious beliefs !!!!

It all says, fake Babas  taste the success and mint money for some time ultimately to get exposed sooner or later 

usha manohar wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

rambabu wrote:

rambabu wrote:

@ Sunil

Karl Marx said Religion is Opium of the masses. As you said Babas like Ptthar Baba etc are the creations of man. These Babas are demi Gods

 

Incidentally There is a man famous as patharbaba in our area. People believe if he hits someone with a stone all his wishes will be fulfilled. Same is true for Lakkadbaba, he hits people with a bamboo and people who get hit feel blessed in anticipation. 

 

 "paani wale baba", kicks and pulling his women devotees by the hair.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/baba-kicking-women-caught-on-camera/132954

 

 So sick and disgusting!!! I fail to understand the mentality of women who tolerate his stupid kicking and hair pulling with such fervour and enthusiasm.

 

There was a famous farshiwale baba in Nashik (farshi means a tile) who used to keep a tile on his head and 'diagnose' ailments and troubles of his devotees and prescribe medicines/cures accordingly. Recently, his fraud was exposed and now he is cooling his heels somewhere.

 

 

 LOL, I remember my father telling about someone known to him deciding to try his luck at being a godman, this was in the sixties.He went about it in a very thorough manner, keeping an assistant outside who would ask all the relevant questions to the women devotees and then pull strings so that the baba would know who and what their requirements were and apparently he was quite successful, made some money and vanished when things began to get revealed. The sad part is how gullible people are when it is a matter of religious beliefs !!!!

 Google Shree Radhemaa, she is another such gem, started out a humble housewife in Punjab and now she owns a huge huge mansion In Mumbai made entirely of Italian marble. Her closest second-in-command is called Talli Baba. She wears a diamond tiara and has an elaborate beauty treatment before daily appearance. go figure!!!

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

rambabu wrote:

suni51 wrote:

rambabu wrote:

rambabu wrote:

@ Sunil

Karl Marx said Religion is Opium of the masses. As you said Babas like Ptthar Baba etc are the creations of man. These Babas are demi Gods

 

Incidentally There is a man famous as patharbaba in our area. People believe if he hits someone with a stone all his wishes will be fulfilled. Same is true for Lakkadbaba, he hits people with a bamboo and people who get hit feel blessed in anticipation. 

 

 "paani wale baba", kicks and pulling his women devotees by the hair.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/baba-kicking-women-caught-on-camera/132954

 

 So sick and disgusting!!! I fail to understand the mentality of women who tolerate his stupid kicking and hair pulling with such fervour and enthusiasm.

 

There was a famous farshiwale baba in Nashik (farshi means a tile) who used to keep a tile on his head and 'diagnose' ailments and troubles of his devotees and prescribe medicines/cures accordingly. Recently, his fraud was exposed and now he is cooling his heels somewhere.

 

 

 LOL, I remember my father telling about someone known to him deciding to try his luck at being a godman, this was in the sixties.He went about it in a very thorough manner, keeping an assistant outside who would ask all the relevant questions to the women devotees and then pull strings so that the baba would know who and what their requirements were and apparently he was quite successful, made some money and vanished when things began to get revealed. The sad part is how gullible people are when it is a matter of religious beliefs !!!!

 Google Shree Radhemaa, she is another such gem, started out a humble housewife in Punjab and now she owns a huge huge mansion In Mumbai made entirely of Italian marble. Her closest second-in-command is called Talli Baba. She wears a diamond tiara and has an elaborate beauty treatment before daily appearance. go figure!!!

 

LOL, she looks more like a model than a saint...Honestly how stupid can people get ??? No wonder the smarter and devious ones find an easy way to loot them..

rambabu wrote:

It all says, fake Babas  taste the success and mint money for some time ultimately to get exposed sooner or later 

A fake BABA Rampal caught in Haryana used to bath with milk, and that milk was used to make 'Prasad' and distributed among followers. Also some well educated people were among the followers of that BABA.

Invariably all the Babas in India, though there are few exceptions are fake and their only intention is to make money by masquerading the gullible public.

I beg to differ but all such babas and Babees are nothing but cheats. Some of them even pretend as if they are insane but that is their trick of the trade. They behave like that while making money but enjoy their life once in privacy of their ashram or houses which they furnish with all modern amenities.

OK Sunil. You can differ. All I wanted to say is the common characteristic of all these Babas are hoodwinking the public who are gullible. What I feel is if people are capable of thwarting these Cheats, there is nothing like it. But in a tradition bound country like India there are remote chances for what I said. As long as the gullibility exists, Cheats also exist.

There were few BABA's who really did for public and not taken anything from public, but after their death followers of such BABA's opened big ashrams in the name of that BABA to take sympathy of public and make money from public.

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/saints.asp

Those Gurus and saints like Sankaracharya are real and genuine Gurus who lived to spread humanitarian aspects. As you said it is the Middlemen who took the advantage of using these Saints and earning money. They are a shame to the society.

To become the follower of baba's requires a particular type of mindset.Otherwise how can Asaram have followers waiting and agitating for him after all that has come out on him. No one is gullible. Followers feel by investing their faith in Baba's they will be rewarded with happiness or  fulfil their desires,. It is pure give and take. When Baba turn to be fake the followers do not want to accept because that would make them also look fake.

Give and take policy is OK. But these followers are interested in taking something for which Babas bestow Aashirwadams.

( Blessings) .And these Blessings are in the form of offering Short cuts to attain Moksha or Salvation. Is there any shortcut to Moksha ? NO. Believing These fake Babas false promises is the root cause for the popularity of these Fake Babas.

I wonder if Puttaparthy Sai Baba is genuine or fake ? There have been many rumors surrounding him after his death ...His empire is however very large and he has donated a lot for charity and there is a university and hospitals and also many villages have been helped by him.But the question is whether he really is a godman or a clever magician ?

A Magician. Famous magician Prof. Agarwal challenged Puttaparty Baba, the Baba refused to accept the challenge. This itself proves that Puttaparthy Baba is a fake. Additionally there were many cases of murders and mayhem that took place in his Ashram. The gold in his Ashram was confiscated by the Authorities.

usha manohar wrote:

I wonder if Puttaparthy Sai Baba is genuine or fake ? There have been many rumors surrounding him after his death ...His empire is however very large and he has donated a lot for charity and there is a university and hospitals and also many villages have been helped by him.But the question is whether he really is a godman or a clever magician ?

The very fact that he routinely produced expensive Rolex watches for his celebrity and super rich followers speaks volumes of his authenticity. How can a Hindu Baba produce an expensive, foreign made watch by his so-called magical powers? Also, for his poor followers, all he could do was produce bhasma! Why not give out gold and expensive stuff to the poor who could remove their poverty by selling that stuff?

@ rambabu - A Magician. Famous magician Prof. Agarwal challenged Puttaparty Baba, the Baba refused to accept the challenge. This itself proves that Puttaparthy Baba is a fake. Additionally there were many cases of murders and mayhem that took place in his Ashram. The gold in his Ashram was confiscated by the Authorities.

@ Kalyani - The very fact that he routinely produced expensive Rolex watches for his celebrity and super rich followers speaks volumes of his authenticity. How can a Hindu Baba produce an expensive, foreign made watch by his so-called magical powers? Also, for his poor followers, all he could do was produce bhasma! Why not give out gold and expensive stuff to the poor who could remove their poverty by selling that stuff?

I too am of the same opinion that he is just a clever magician who cleverly hoodwinked politicians, businessmen, filmstars and so on...May be they all had some business interest with him, but thye masses went hysterical the moment he spoke.I have visted his ashram in whitefield, Bangalore as well as Prashanta Nilaya in Puttaparthy , along with my mother in law who would not listen to a word against him LOL... so strong was her faith in him !

usha manohar wrote:

@ rambabu - A Magician. Famous magician Prof. Agarwal challenged Puttaparty Baba, the Baba refused to accept the challenge. This itself proves that Puttaparthy Baba is a fake. Additionally there were many cases of murders and mayhem that took place in his Ashram. The gold in his Ashram was confiscated by the Authorities.

@ Kalyani - The very fact that he routinely produced expensive Rolex watches for his celebrity and super rich followers speaks volumes of his authenticity. How can a Hindu Baba produce an expensive, foreign made watch by his so-called magical powers? Also, for his poor followers, all he could do was produce bhasma! Why not give out gold and expensive stuff to the poor who could remove their poverty by selling that stuff?

 

I too am of the same opinion that he is just a clever magician who cleverly hoodwinked politicians, businessmen, filmstars and so on...May be they all had some business interest with him, but thye masses went hysterical the moment he spoke.I have visted his ashram in whitefield, Bangalore as well as Prashanta Nilaya in Puttaparthy , along with my mother in law who would not listen to a word against him LOL... so strong was her faith in him !

True Usha...he was a very very clever and a cunning man who could hoodwink many with his tricks and so called magic, probably a brand of mass hypnotism that all of these babas and maas possess! I have seen quite a few families who ruined their lives all because of their pursuit of this Sathya sai baba who hardly had even a wee bit of truth in him.

So the above posts prove that people invest in Baba's for their own selfish reasons. Clever persons will naturally exploit them.

There were murders among his followers for the person who succeeds after  Satya saibaba's death. It was during these riots many spilled the Beans. CBI took over and confiscated huge amounts of gold, thrones made of gold.

Is it true that some gold went with him also?