There has been a lot of opposition to cow slaughter and beef being eaten openly in our country with some miscreants creating problems and many Hindus are not happy with cow slaughter . However, in a country that has a considerable number of people who eat Beef and Pork it is not feasible to ban it completely .
So is it a good option to have government run and supervised outlets that sell Beef and Pork in designated places and put an end to cow slaughter by private individuals ?
I suppose there is no solution to this problem unless the central government steps in and bans slaughter everywhere unlike now and makes some arrangement wherein beef eaters are not affected or else continue in the same manner that has been going on for years, this is nt a new problem has always been there ever since the ban was imposed in some states
usha manohar wrote:I suppose there is no solution to this problem unless the central government steps in and bans slaughter everywhere unlike now and makes some arrangement wherein beef eaters are not affected or else continue in the same manner that has been going on for years, this is nt a new problem has always been there ever since the ban was imposed in some states.
we are a quasi federal nation. The states have the authority to allow or ban cow slaughter. As eating habits of people differ, total ban on cow slaughterin th entire country is not feasible. That is why the BJP chief Shah also opined against such ban in entire country.
State where beef ban is not there will see their border towns do good business as they will attract lot of beef eaters from other or adjoining states. Like Abu in Rajasthan and Daman And Diu attract hordes of drinkers from Gujarat because liquor is banned in Gujarat. Good for tourism.
usha manohar wrote:suni51 wrote:usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
It is not believable that gods eat beef. this rubbish statement is given my one political leader. In which Veda it is written that God eats beef. If we Indian wants to live with peace here, never listen what leaders are saying. Ignore these.
rambabu wrote:anil wrote:rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
True. Hindus do not accept cow slaughter. Cows are highly respected. They are referred in mythologies as sacred.They are useful in many ways ranging from agriculture to yielding milk which is nutritious. This milk is being used in making many dairy products .Milk of cow, buffalo and goats are used in these Dairy products.
In this scenario, I too agree that the government should intervene and import beef for beef eaters to avoid unnecessary clashes.
Future is of organic agriculture and with out cow it is not possible. At present farmers are preparing insecticides at their own level with cow urine and some other plants. This insecticides is much effective that others.
read it know how cow is useful for us.
http://epaper.bhaskar.com/jaipur/14/21102015/0/1/
True Anil. Cow's role in farming is undeniable. But farmers use cows them as long as they are young. But many farmers either abandon them or send them to slaughter houses. This a sad thing. But there are many old-age homes for cattle. These work under the act Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, SPCA.
http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mp/2003/08/18/stories/2003081800150300.htm
Yes it is problem, but in future farmers will not abandon cows. Farmers and owners will earn 10 to 15Rs. per liter by selling the urine of cows and they earn extra from dung of cows. I read that peoples are selling cow dung cake online.
I just posted a comment on a Facebook post that said- Pork ban is ban in 56 Islamic countries so why make so much hue and cry on cow slaughter in India (the post has objectionable language in my humble opinion so I will not use the exact words). The post said it was a question from Amitabh Bachchan- I posted Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries?
This is a very confusing as well as contradictory topic to discuss. I have no clear opinion regarding how to handle this issue but I can only say that in against of cow slaughter, human beings should not be butchered. Naturally, the government must come up with a strict law because killing of people should not go on. It has to be stopped and sentiments should be properly taken care of.
anil wrote:usha manohar wrote:suni51 wrote:usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
It is not believable that gods eat beef. this rubbish statement is given my one political leader. In which Veda it is written that God eats beef. If we Indian wants to live with peace here, never listen what leaders are saying. Ignore these.
I agree. The current opinion and belief is more relevant. We need not bother about the food habits in ancient India. Even if the Aryans ate beef, that is not relevant today. We have to make law and abide by that according to current conditions. So it is okay to ban cow slaughter according to peoples' sentiments/ food habits in the region.
But I have to make another point. Thse days, buffalo milk is used more and hardly anyone consumes cow milk. There is no use of oxen in ploughing as tractors have replaced them. There is neither any use of cows nor we can slaughter them for food obviously owingto religious sentiments. How can cows live in human society! There appears only one alternative. These be declared protected wild animal and removed from the category of domestic animals in the states where cow slaughter is banned. Send them to forests for living as free wild animals.
suni51 wrote:I just posted a comment on a Facebook post that said- Pork ban is ban in 56 Islamic countries so why make so much hue and cry on cow slaughter in India (the post has objectionable language in my humble opinion so I will not use the exact words). The post said it was a question from Amitabh Bachchan- I posted Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries?
Our politicians will reply for "Why pork slaughter is banned in 56 countries", It is their internal matter.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:anil wrote:usha manohar wrote:suni51 wrote:usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
It is not believable that gods eat beef. this rubbish statement is given my one political leader. In which Veda it is written that God eats beef. If we Indian wants to live with peace here, never listen what leaders are saying. Ignore these.
I agree. The current opinion and belief is more relevant. We need not bother about the food habits in ancient India. Even if the Aryans ate beef, that is not relevant today. We have to make law and abide by that according to current conditions. So it is okay to ban cow slaughter according to peoples' sentiments/ food habits in the region.
But I have to make another point. Thse days, buffalo milk is used more and hardly anyone consumes cow milk. There is no use of oxen in ploughing as tractors have replaced them. There is neither any use of cows nor we can slaughter them for food obviously owingto religious sentiments. How can cows live in human society! There appears only one alternative. These be declared protected wild animal and removed from the category of domestic animals in the states where cow slaughter is banned. Send them to forests for living as free wild animals.
Right sir it is best one solution of this problem.
But I have to make another point. Thse days, buffalo milk is used more and hardly anyone consumes cow milk. There is no use of oxen in ploughing as tractors have replaced them. There is neither any use of cows nor we can slaughter them for food obviously owingto religious sentiments. How can cows live in human society! There appears only one alternative. These be declared protected wild animal and removed from the category of domestic animals in the states where cow slaughter is banned. Send them to forests for living as free wild animals.
What a funny suggestion! and what perfect example of human gratitude (or lack of it) to an animal that is useful to us in so many ways more than one.
So it looks like, it is time to close this topic before we have further suggestions more creative than this one!
@kiran8