There has been a lot of opposition to cow slaughter and beef being eaten openly in our country with some miscreants creating problems and many Hindus are not happy with cow slaughter . However, in a country that has a considerable number of people who eat Beef and Pork it is not feasible to ban it completely .
So is it a good option to have government run and supervised outlets that sell Beef and Pork in designated places and put an end to cow slaughter by private individuals ?
Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
anil wrote:Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
Of course cow is a very useful animal and has to be looked after with care since they are domesticated animals. In a way what you say makes sense , importing beef may be a good solution !
anil wrote:Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
True. Hindus do not accept cow slaughter. Cows are highly respected. They are referred in mythologies as sacred.They are useful in many ways ranging from agriculture to yielding milk which is nutritious. This milk is being used in making many dairy products .Milk of cow, buffalo and goats are used in these Dairy products.
In this scenario, I too agree that the government should intervene and import beef for beef eaters to avoid unnecessary clashes.
no i don't think so because this is India and i know that this thing about cow which is now in the headlines of many tv news channel are given many importance but as the time passes this topic will be closed and whereas about permanent solution there is no solution to this problem because it will happen even we try to stop all these
While it is agreed that Cow has become a symbol of Hinduism , I am also appalled to see them being treated like dirt after their usefulness is over.Many people simply drive them out after they pass the stage of producing milk, they wander in the streets and get killed in road accidents or else get taken away by butchers. I feel people should be made responsible and aware.
I do not agree that government should enter in this business or any business for that matter as our system is cot capable of handling anything successfully. They will only make a mess of the whole affair. What I suggest that the whole business of slaughter should run by only organised sector. People can send all animals (inclusive of cows) which they feel have no further use or beneficial. After all we donate human bodies to Medical colleges for the benefit in further medical studies.
usha manohar wrote:While it is agreed that Cow has become a symbol of Hinduism , I am also appalled to see them being treated like dirt after their usefulness is over.Many people simply drive them out after they pass the stage of producing milk, they wander in the streets and get killed in road accidents or else get taken away by butchers. I feel people should be made responsible and aware.
Yes Usha, it is very sad to see stray cows wandering around, scrounging around for food. While they are healthy and give good quantity of milk, they are taken care of and once they become old and are of no use, are driven away by the owners or sold to butchers! It is quite sad to see the holy animal reduced to such state. However, there is one thing that people could do, that is, not encroach upon open grasslands in rural areas so that continuous supply of suitable food is made available to these animals. It is something thath government should look into and persuade more urgently than entering beef trade. Open grasslands are vital to environment and for micro and macro ecosystems at all levels and also to maintain sufficient levels of water tables.
suni51 wrote:I do not agree that government should enter in this business or any business for that matter as our system is cot capable of handling anything successfully. They will only make a mess of the whole affair. What I suggest that the whole business of slaughter should run by only organised sector. People can send all animals (inclusive of cows) which they feel have no further use or beneficial. After all we donate human bodies to Medical colleges for the benefit in further medical studies.
I do not know if there is any provision in the Organ donation act for cows for further research. If there is any, your suggestion is worth giving a try. I think Animal Rights organization is in a position to clarify this issue
rambabu wrote:suni51 wrote:I do not agree that government should enter in this business or any business for that matter as our system is cot capable of handling anything successfully. They will only make a mess of the whole affair. What I suggest that the whole business of slaughter should run by only organised sector. People can send all animals (inclusive of cows) which they feel have no further use or beneficial. After all we donate human bodies to Medical colleges for the benefit in further medical studies.
I do not know if there is any provision in the Organ donation act for cows for further research. If there is any, your suggestion is worth giving a try. I think Animal Rights organization is in a position to clarify this issue
As usual, your comment is not relevant to my post.
Those who own cows do so for business reasons and not because they are cow lovers. Once the cow stops contributing economically she becomes a liability and the owners dispose them off at a price. They ten buy another cow and the business cycle goes on. Till mechanization did not occur cow had many more uses apart from her milk. Today only milk is used and use of cow dung is going down and its urine is hardly used. The cow owners are now put to economic distress as old cows cannot be disposed off gainfully. In famine ares such cow sales bring some cash in hard times. It is interesting to note that all those fighting for beef ban etc are not cow owners but are arm chair cow lovers who as usual are full of advice. It is time to become real.
rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
True. Hindus do not accept cow slaughter. Cows are highly respected. They are referred in mythologies as sacred.They are useful in many ways ranging from agriculture to yielding milk which is nutritious. This milk is being used in making many dairy products .Milk of cow, buffalo and goats are used in these Dairy products.
In this scenario, I too agree that the government should intervene and import beef for beef eaters to avoid unnecessary clashes.
Future is of organic agriculture and with out cow it is not possible. At present farmers are preparing insecticides at their own level with cow urine and some other plants. This insecticides is much effective that others.
read it know how cow is useful for us.
http://epaper.bhaskar.com/jaipur/14/21102015/0/1/
Cow slaughter is not an issue of privatisation or state./ private con control. This is really an emotive issue with majority commuity. Keeping in view the sentiiments of people, cow slaughter is banned in most states. The food habits and culture differ in some states like Kerala and North East and so there is no ban on cow slaughter there. The issue is in domain of state governments and they can ban or allow cow slaughter according to conditions prevailing in state. Lawnedsbe enforced in this matter also as in other matters.
anil wrote:rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Here is bane of many states of Indian on cow slaughters. How government can slaughters cow and sale beef who banned it. Majority of Hindus never accept that cows are slaughter here. It is better that government import beef for beef lovers. Cow in useful animal. Its dung and urine is used for curing in illness and these are also useful in organic farming. Cow urine is an effective insecticide. I am saying all these only for Indian cows.
True. Hindus do not accept cow slaughter. Cows are highly respected. They are referred in mythologies as sacred.They are useful in many ways ranging from agriculture to yielding milk which is nutritious. This milk is being used in making many dairy products .Milk of cow, buffalo and goats are used in these Dairy products.
In this scenario, I too agree that the government should intervene and import beef for beef eaters to avoid unnecessary clashes.
Future is of organic agriculture and with out cow it is not possible. At present farmers are preparing insecticides at their own level with cow urine and some other plants. This insecticides is much effective that others.
read it know how cow is useful for us.
http://epaper.bhaskar.com/jaipur/14/21102015/0/1/
True Anil. Cow's role in farming is undeniable. But farmers use cows them as long as they are young. But many farmers either abandon them or send them to slaughter houses. This a sad thing. But there are many old-age homes for cattle. These work under the act Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, SPCA.
http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mp/2003/08/18/stories/2003081800150300.htm
The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
suni51 wrote:usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
usha manohar wrote:suni51 wrote:usha manohar wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:The suggestion for import of beef does not appear appropriate. India is major beef exporter. However this is now cow meat. Buffalo meat goes in name of beef. Banning cow slaughter and importing beef is self contradictory. Ban to be effective is to be on cow slaughter as well as on beef eating. But such ban can be only according to food habits and culture prevailing in he region.
In fact importing beef makes a lot of sense to me because f the following reasons
1, It puts an end to clashes that arise out d cow slaughter , the law for which is not at all clear cut
2, In India cows are slaughtered fr consumption after they are past their prime and are f no use fr those who sell milk or use them in cultivation purpose, which makes the meat rubbery and of poor quality.
3,Many beef eaters complain about the poor quality of beef available for local use whereas in other countries the quality is far better , so those who want to eat beef , may not be in a very large number in our country get a better choice sans the continuous friction that we have now because of the cow slaughter.
With due regards there are at least 40 crore people who eat beef and when I say beef that includes cow as well. You may find it exaggerated but that is the hard truth. So we can cater to them using our own organised sector which can take care of the demand and at the same time keeping the illegal butchery out of the picture.
If we go into history we have had cattle slaughter ban since the medieval times and even during Mughal times .When British came here they started the first slaughter house in Calcutta . However there is reference of a large number of Hindus , even Brahmins and some of the Hindu Gods eating beef in the Vedas. Coming to the present times , as many as 24 states have banned slaughter of cows because of the changed perceptions. The number f beef eaters is abut 80 millions which is a small number compared to the total population
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RhPVLUFmclIDWRIiSoTC7N/Who-are-the-beef-eaters-in-India.html
I have been traveling through every nook and corner of this country for last 30 years or so and more extensively in last six years after I resigned from my regular job. I have been going to the smaller cities in last few years and amused to see the figures provided by agencies are so confusing. 80 million is is only 1/5 in this context. This figure will stand good in my state of UP alone.
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