What Guru Dronacharya did was right?

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Drona was only doing his duty towards those who had employed him and given him shelter when he most needed it. His duty was to repay that gesture, and if it is evil, so be it. But we also have to consider that Drona along with Vidur and others did try their best to persuade Duryodhan and his henchmen from waging a war against Pandavas. When all efforts failed and the war became inevitable, Drona had no option but to side with the Kauravas. Also, one important factor is Krishna, it was predestined karma that war HAD to happen and Krishna made sure that all roads pointed to the battlefield. So in larger perspective, Drona, Duryodhan, Arjun, Karna all were nothing but pawns in the hands of Lord Krishna. If one reads Mahabharat really carefully and with an open mind, he will find that there are lessons to be learned from the epic, lessons that are relevant to today's times as well. Many dismiss it as mere fiction about a glorified dispute for land, but it is not the case. It is much more than that, but one can only learn when he or she has an open mind!

Ultimately, in front of teacher every student is same, and due to his evil karma, drone joined Kauravas side and he and his son ultimately lost his life. Ekalavya knew from beginning he had to shred his thumb as Guru dakhina, and Drona as employer of royal cannot teach people other than royal persons, but after seeing his talent, he allowed him to stand at a distance and learn from distance, perhaps it is his capital fee like corporate quota in big educational institutions.

Drona got his status through the Hasthinapur empire and it is Raja dharma to protect the interest of the throne or the kingdom, who the ruler is not important. Drona's tale too is full of ups and downs and he did what he had to do out of compulsion and necessity...

Drona was only doing his duty towards those who had employed him and given him shelter when he most needed it. His duty was to repay that gesture, and if it is evil, so be it. But we also have to consider that Drona along with Vidur and others did try their best to persuade Duryodhan and his henchmen from waging a war against Pandavas. When all efforts failed and the war became inevitable, Drona had no option but to side with the Kauravas. Also, one important factor is Krishna, it was predestined karma that war HAD to happen and Krishna made sure that all roads pointed to the battlefield. So in larger perspective, Drona, Duryodhan, Arjun, Karna all were nothing but pawns in the hands of Lord Krishna. If one reads Mahabharat really carefully and with an open mind, he will find that there are lessons to be learned from the epic, lessons that are relevant to today's times as well. Many dismiss it as mere fiction about a glorified dispute for land, but it is not the case. It is much more than that, but one can only learn when he or she has an open mind!

Absolutely ! I personally feel that Mahbharat was one of the greatest epic ever written in every respect...It is relevant for all times since it has so much wisdom and in depth analysis of life !

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Mahabharat will be always relevant. This epic is essentially about royal family dispute and consequent war. There are many evts subsidiary to the main theme. Family disputes, land disputes and property disputes will always be there. So you may always learn from this epic. But if you want to keep peace, avoid this book. It is interesting that Mahabharat Katha (recitation of the epic) is never arranged in any home. People fear that recitation of Mahabharata would result in quarrel. So Mahabharata katha is only in grounds or community halls.

Mahabharat is an epic no override on it, and with the stories or truthfulness is still under research, as the race at that time brings forward such humongous epic must be developed, as every writing is the mirror of society we do live, in each developments in this epic we find mention about ills of life and just as how Duryodhan offended Draupadi , and she vows to abolish kauravas, these incidents are not stories, but eye opener to society and in war, everything is right, Drona wants Arjun to be his number one student and he does it, as he knows from beginning some day there would be war between two sides, It is the reflection of evils and people are learning from it with deep mind, and many also read it as stories but there are always inherent meaning to each incidents.

While talking about Dharma and Adharma it seems people forgot to notice Dharma Raja, who is considered as the epitome of 'Sartya' or truth lied during Mahabharata war. He lied to demoralise Drona that Aswathama, Drona's son was dead. All epics are filled with loads of self contradictory concepts. Epics which were written or narrated thousands of years ago are relevant to the then existing conditions. If there is good that is relevant to the present conditions they should be taken. Else discarded.

Mahabharat will be always relevant. This epic is essentially about royal family dispute and consequent war. There are many evts subsidiary to the main theme. Family disputes, land disputes and property disputes will always be there. So you may always learn from this epic. But if you want to keep peace, avoid this book. It is interesting that Mahabharat Katha (recitation of the epic) is never arranged in any home. People fear that recitation of Mahabharata would result in quarrel. So Mahabharata katha is only in grounds or community halls.

I have already mentioned in my earlier threads, no epic or a scripture can be relevant in totality with all times . Because they were written or narrated In tune with the then conditions. If a certain part of an epic is relevant to the present times, accept it. Else discard it.
A woman having five husbands was a norm in Mahabharata times. I do not accept it because its not relevant to the present times. ‘Satyameva Jayate’, truth alone triumphs is relevant even now. I accept it.

Mahabharat is an epic no override on it, and with the stories or truthfulness is still under research, as the race at that time brings forward such humongous epic must be developed, as every writing is the mirror of society we do live, in each developments in this epic we find mention about ills of life and just as how Duryodhan offended Draupadi , and she vows to abolish kauravas, these incidents are not stories, but eye opener to society and in war, everything is right, Drona wants Arjun to be his number one student and he does it, as he knows from beginning some day there would be war between two sides, It is the reflection of evils and people are learning from it with deep mind, and many also read it as stories but there are always inherent meaning to each incidents.

Every single happening is the result of a previous action.In Duryodans case , he is humiliated by Draupadi and her maids when he visits their palace at Indraprastha and falls into water and gets disrobed.He wants to commit suicide but is stoped by Karan asking him to wait for an opportunity to get even and get his revenge against Draupadi and the Pandavas. For him that is right , although he could have done it in a more subtle manner instead of asking Dushysan to drag Draupadi to the royal court and disrobe her - we all have both evil and virtue within us only the degree is different and in some evil becomes the predominant feature whereas in most of us it comes out when we are stressed beyond our limits..

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Pandavas too din't thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Pandavas too din't thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Our entire life and unviverse revolves around that very important rule of nature which has been time tested ....

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

If you believe in rebirth and also that your karma accounts can be maintained same way as commercial accounts by somebody in Heaven (Chitragupta, Yama Raj's accountant cum advisor), I have nothing more to say. Howevever, to me this is very weird and conspiracy of expoliting upper castes to justify exploitation of so called lower castes.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

If you believe in rebirth and also that your karma accounts can be maintained same way as commercial accounts by somebody in Heaven (Chitragupta, Yama Raj's accountant cum advisor), I have nothing more to say. Howevever, to me this is very weird and conspiracy of expoliting upper castes to justify exploitation of so called lower castes.

No problem sir.I do not believe in Rebirth or Puranas.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

In Geeta Krishna has beautifully described the theory of Karma yoga - Karma means action !
A person has to perform his or her duty, sacred duty (dharma). One is to act "because it must be done" .Performing duty sustains oneself, the society, and the cosmos .You must attend to your own duty, not someone else's . In extreme cases, to perform duty may appear to harm other people, but everyone's true self (atma) is eternal and cannot be harmed ..
For the Hindu tradition (for any tradition?) your station in life tells you many important things about your duties. Are you a student? Then be a good student. You are a son or a daughter, brother or sister, a parent? Then fulfill these roles well. You are an employee, a citizen? Your Karma dictates you to do a good job and exercise intelligent patriotism...

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

In Geeta Krishna has beautifully described the theory of Karma yoga - Karma means action !
A person has to perform his or her duty, sacred duty (dharma). One is to act "because it must be done" .Performing duty sustains oneself, the society, and the cosmos .You must attend to your own duty, not someone else's . In extreme cases, to perform duty may appear to harm other people, but everyone's true self (atma) is eternal and cannot be harmed ..
For the Hindu tradition (for any tradition?) your station in life tells you many important things about your duties. Are you a student? Then be a good student. You are a son or a daughter, brother or sister, a parent? Then fulfill these roles well. You are an employee, a citizen? Your Karma dictates you to do a good job and exercise intelligent patriotism...

"NishkamaKarma"'. Yes, performing your assigned duty without expecting returns is what is needed.

Every action should not have equal and opposite reaction, Duryodhana should not have taken this in his ride as epic Mahabharat, is for all times and all situations, it is teaching how, a big race of Kauravas diminished due to this, many different aspects are learnt and even all aspects of living are being taught and understood for years to come and relevant and rational people will take lessons from it,

Not just Kauravas but Oandavas too dont thrive, having lost all their children but one ( in Uttara's womb). So everyone paid a price for their actions in the end including Krishna who had to give up his life in the hands of a hunter for what he had done in his life time !

I agree with you. I believe in the Doctrine of Karma, which has been Scientifically proved.
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is not just 'every action has opposite and equal reaction." This theory is related to your deeds- previous lives, present lives and lives after death. Every social injustice and inequality is justified by this theory. If you meet any injustice or exploitation, just blame your karma in this or previous lives before your birth. If you do not get justice in this life, it is still kept as a balance in your karma account called 'prarbdh' and you may be rewared in future life after death. Now just see how the ordinary people have been harassed and looted by village sahookars( Mahajans). They would charge very high rate of interest and even cheat. The poor illiterate would definitely pay and his descendants would also try to pay the balance by way of forced or bhonded labor. It was enough to tell them that if they did not pay this, their forefathers who had taken the loan will have to repay by getting the rebirth as bullock and carry load as way or repayment. This is the meaning of Karma theory, which is neither scientific nor logical and is just a means of cheating.

Karma is deed. Any deed will reflect in the form of a Result. This is cause and effect. If you pour wheat in the Mill, you get wheat flour. Not Raagi flour. As you sow so shall you reap. This principle is relevant all births. Present or previous.

In Geeta Krishna has beautifully described the theory of Karma yoga - Karma means action !
A person has to perform his or her duty, sacred duty (dharma). One is to act "because it must be done" .Performing duty sustains oneself, the society, and the cosmos .You must attend to your own duty, not someone else's . In extreme cases, to perform duty may appear to harm other people, but everyone's true self (atma) is eternal and cannot be harmed ..
For the Hindu tradition (for any tradition?) your station in life tells you many important things about your duties. Are you a student? Then be a good student. You are a son or a daughter, brother or sister, a parent? Then fulfill these roles well. You are an employee, a citizen? Your Karma dictates you to do a good job and exercise intelligent patriotism...

"NishkamaKarma"'. Yes, performing your assigned duty without expecting returns is what is needed.[/quote

Practically, 'nishkaam karma' means that you will do your work without expecting returns. Howver there is salary fixed for employees, price instantly demanded by shop keepers, money instantly taken for bus ride and so on. Now if you say that you work without expecting result viz. performance level, nobody will except. You are supposed to be result orineted. Howvever, you may indule in 'social service' or 'service in some shrines' without money. This is Nishkaam karma, which ultimately benefits the shrine managers. There are some Radhaswamy sects where the devotees give 'nishkaam sewa' by working in fileds there and the shrine managers prosper with such 'nishkaam sewa'. The 'Nishkaam sewak' simply lives on the food given in langar (community kitchen).
As I said earlier, the entire Karma theory is only a device to cheat and exploit the masses. This is just bonded labor in name of religion.