Saffronizing education

Will Tamil Nadu agree to Sanskrit being the medium of education? 

That has to be seen. As I said earlier introduction of Sanskrit is a time taking an long process. Let's together wait.

Wait till eternity. How can Sanskrit compete with today's languages which are widely accepted and used. Sanskrit was a language of ancient India. in today's India it has an archival value. I also respect it but am realistic to accept that its days of glory have long since passed. Will engineering, medicine , law etc be taught in Sanskrit. Your answer will be yes it can be done, present govt. will do it. But is it going to happen. 

A language that has been termed as Classic language has been forgotten and neglected , do you think just by waving a magic wand, Sanskrit will come back ? Yes i still say the present government will succeed in  implementing engineering medicine etc in Sanskrit. Thats why I wait. If you can't wait well that's up to you.

 

The point here is not whether the language can be used as a medium of instruction or whether it can compete with modern languages. The point is whether the language holds any importance in today's world and answer to that is yes and vast uses have already been proved and elaborately discussed above.

The same set of arguments being advanced all over again which have been effectively rebutted! If restrictions were placed on non-Brahmins learning Sanskrit, how come some of rishis and maharshis were non-Brahmins? I don't know if the term 'extinct' admits of any modifier or qualifier like more or less! Its import does convey a state of absoluteness. No intermediate state.I am also not much informed about its status during the Muslim-dominated eras. Dara Sikho was well-versed in it.The entire Vaishnav religion which flourished under the spiritual guru Mahaprabhu Chaityna during the Muslim eras.My home still has rare literature of this religion all in Sanskrit as my late father was a devout Vaishnav.Now coming to Bengal Renaissance heralded by a galaxy of luminaries who fought Brahminical tyranny were all masters in it.They countered brahminical orthodoxy and deviancy with their true knowledge of Upanishad and other shastras,Raja Rammohan Roy,Swami Vivekananda,Tagore,Vidyasagar,Keshab Chandra Sen and above all Sree Ramakrishna. The point to note here is Sree Ramakrishna was a Brahmin and Vivekananda (aka Narendranath Dutta) was not. But nothing came in between the spiritual union of these sacred souls.

It can not be any one's case in disputing the merit of the Sanskrit language. That it is a great language and has  a very scientific grammar suitable for today's computer languages is a tribute to it. However to expect that it will become the language of the masses, will replace current languages as medium of instruction and all official work will be done in it is simply not going to happen for reasons that have nothing to do with Sanskrit itself. It lost to the invaders languages more than a thousand years back. Probablity of it becoming the lingua franca is always there howsoever miniscule it may be. In the distant past and recent past if a stray rishi or a reformer learnt it in spite of not being a Brahmin does not negate the reality that it was never the  language of the masses. Its richness is not in doubt, But repeatedly harping only on  its past glory in itself shows it is a language  of the yester ages. I also support all efforts by government, institutions and individuals to encourage its study and keep it alive, after all it is the mother of many Indian languages and has vast and rich  literature.

Sanskrit has never been darling of mass people. From its stages it is learnt and most of languages evolve from it. But still it continues still to date. Regional languages like Pali and others evolve from Sanskrit way before. But continuance of Sanskrit still continues as it goes on to show that this is not a dead language. Safronisation of education is not similar with Sanskrit education. Even modern super computers based upon Sanskrit codes as it is the most suitable of the most. There are many English writers who adopt this language and then analyse to understand how close Greeco Roman language with Sanskrit and its daughter languages.

Lopamudra wrote:

The point here is not whether the language can be used as a medium of instruction or whether it can compete with modern languages. The point is whether the language holds any importance in today's world and answer to that is yes and vast uses have already been proved and elaborately discussed above.

Lopamudra, you have summed it up quite well. Extinction or liveliness or revival of any language actually depends on what it can offer in terms of knowledge and content in today's context and Sanskrit fits the bill completely and beautifully well. In spite of its evident labeling as 'saffronizing language' or 'belonging to only a certain upper caste people' etc. it still serves a multitude of purposes to each and every component of the society. Ayurvedic treatment is given equally to an upper caste Brahmin and to a lower caste person. Sanskrit which is used to program computer languages and codes are used in the same manner by persons belonging to all castes. So constantly harping on it as extinct, upper caste, extinct language is useless and futile.

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

In the morning time, while watcing news snippets in DD news shows that AIR invited applications for sanskrit learned person to translate famous Hindi songs into Sanskrit and then those songs to be sing in same melody of original songs. It is the new trend as I have never ever hard about this before.

It is stated by some members that Sanskrit is used to program certain computer languages. I remember reading a few years back that Sanskrit is suitable for it. But have not come across it being actually used . I would appreciate to know which computer language is using Sanskrit logic. It would be fantastic to know of an ancient language helping an modern application language. 

 

It is best for programming of artificial coding. Computer able to best to recognise programming structure and the best according to some like Briggs Sanskrit is the best or most suitable due to its logical structure of semantics.  Computer works in the concept of array where scattered data time and again recompiled to create systematic semantics, and in Sanskrit sentence structure exactly goes in such way and in each sentence each word has stipulated meaning on certain conditionality which never changes and that is most liked by computer who uses programming language to understand expression of statements. I found this link in internet from Google about this...

http://think.denverdias.com/2015/01/18/sanskrit-computer-programming/

 

I'm in total agreement with you. Your link is not being highlighted. Anyhow I'm giving you the same link.

People who doubt who doubt Sanskrit as a computer language should go through this link.

http://think.denverdias.com/2015/01/18/sanskrit-computer-programming/

 

 

 

chinmoymukherjee wrote:

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

Although I in favor of promotion of Sanskrit, but it is almost impossible to use this as a spoken language and medium of study. But we must be learn it. 

 

anil wrote:

chinmoymukherjee wrote:

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

Although I in favor of promotion of Sanskrit, but it is almost impossible to use this as a spoken language and medium of study. But we must be learn it. 

Although impracticable, I challenge the Sanskrit enthusiasts to publish a Sanskrit daily-paper or internet edition and run this at least for a month. 

 

 

The link provided by mohan manohar should be gone through by all but especially by emotionally charged supporters of Sanskrit. The author states that computer languages have to be logical for obvious reasons. A study of existing languages has shown that Sanskrit is very near to logic in languages especially the positioning of the words which mean the same thing at particular positions although the word may be same. The second language with this property is Latin. Sanskrit is not used as a computer language as is claimed bu some members in the forum. Also the article reinforces the widely held factual view that it is a difficult language to learn and was not a language of the masses. Therefore a rishi here and a reformer there learning the language does not alter this fact. It ie very well known that reformists and rishis are always handful on this planet and elsewhere, just like Gandhi and Netaji will be once in thousands of years. What has that got to do with Sanskrit is not clear. Supporters of Samskrit should become realistic and not use emotion and adjectives without substance. This is doing a disservice to the cause of Sanskrit. Nobody including me doubts the greatness of Sanskrit. I also want it to remain alive. The issue got into debate when it was said that it will replace today's languages.

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

anil wrote:

chinmoymukherjee wrote:

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

Although I in favor of promotion of Sanskrit, but it is almost impossible to use this as a spoken language and medium of study. But we must be learn it. 

Although impracticable, I challenge the Sanskrit enthusiasts to publish a Sanskrit daily-paper or internet edition and run this at least for a month. 

Sudharma is a Sanskrit news paper from the city of Mysore Karnataka since 1970.

Here is the link

http://sudharma.epapertoday.com/

I'm a Sanskrit lover. I can run such Sanskrit news paper if someone fiances me.

 

 

 

 

rambabu wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

anil wrote:

chinmoymukherjee wrote:

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

Although I in favor of promotion of Sanskrit, but it is almost impossible to use this as a spoken language and medium of study. But we must be learn it. 

Although impracticable, I challenge the Sanskrit enthusiasts to publish a Sanskrit daily-paper or internet edition and run this at least for a month. 

Sudharma is a Sanskrit news paper from the city of Mysore Karnataka since 1970.

Here is the link

http://sudharma.epapertoday.com/

I'm a Sanskrit lover. I can run such Sanskrit news paper if someone fiances me.

Please write this on Facebook or Twitter so that financiers can know your proposal. I am sure nobody in India is going to start a Sanskrit newspaper or even a web site. However I hope you may begin with a website or blog. However I don't know how capable you are in Sanskrit- speaking, writing or reading. 

 

 

 

 

 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

anil wrote:

chinmoymukherjee wrote:

In none of my posts I have advocated the cause of this language as a spoken language despite its extraordinarily rich vocabulary it can't be the lingua franca like English. The reasons are clear. As to the small number of people who visited this planet to reform and break fresh and new paths and vision my only question is : When did we have them in thousands

and millions unlike today when we have more leaders than followers!!!!

Although I in favor of promotion of Sanskrit, but it is almost impossible to use this as a spoken language and medium of study. But we must be learn it. 

Although impracticable, I challenge the Sanskrit enthusiasts to publish a Sanskrit daily-paper or internet edition and run this at least for a month. 

Sudharma is a Sanskrit news paper from the city of Mysore Karnataka since 1970.

Here is the link

http://sudharma.epapertoday.com/

I'm a Sanskrit lover. I can run such Sanskrit news paper if someone fiances me.

Please write this on Facebook or Twitter so that financiers can know your proposal. I am sure nobody in India is going to start a Sanskrit newspaper or even a web site. However I hope you may begin with a website or blog. However I don't know how capable you are in Sanskrit- speaking, writing or reading. 

 Why I should write in FB or twitter, when i have my own team of Sanskrit scholars who are ready to offer their services free of cost ?