Does the legal political system discriminate. against Muslims ?

usha manohar wrote:

Yakub Memon is to be hanged yet killers of Rajiv Gandhi and Beant Singh  CM punjab got a reprieve and were spared the noose. The only 2 hanged so far in India are Muslims (recently).

No doubt there is a lot of debate going on about the merits and demerits of granting Yakub the death sentence...His crimes too are serious .However, I am totally against death sentence because it does not deter the would be criminal one bit...I feel that they should be given life sentence , until death without parole, so that they repent their act each day !

Coming to Yakub Memon there are many grey areas.  It is not clear whether he surrendered or was captured. Mostly it appears he surrendered on his own and also gave a mine of information to RAW about activities of ISI. He at the most deserves a life sentence.

suni51 wrote:

vijay wrote:

suni51 wrote:

vijay wrote:

Seeking minority votes is vote bank politics but seeking majority's  votes is not vote bank politics. Great.

 

That's the whole point, if a decision makes majority happy that certainly will not be called vote bank politics. However the truth is hanging terrorists is not the decision of present government but came from SC. In case of Rajiv Gandhi murders it was decided by Congress party. I don't think hanging terrorists is vote bank politics.

 

Hanging should not be a case of vote bank politics, but when state assemblies pass resolutions in favor of terrorists what do you have to say? 

 Do you really need an answer for that? The law should take it's own course and legislatory should stay away in such cases.

 

And it is taking place. Politician interference is going unabated. If this goes on , I'll not be amazed to see Yakub Memon may  go scot-free in the coming days.

 

All are equal before the eyes of law. But this cannot be said of those administering law.  Probably bias against minority community also works. 

I agree with what you said, " All are equal before the eyes of law." But not with your comment " Bias against minorities." had there been any bias, minorities would not have been enjoying all the priorities under the sun.

MG Singh wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Yakub Memon is to be hanged yet killers of Rajiv Gandhi and Beant Singh  CM punjab got a reprieve and were spared the noose. The only 2 hanged so far in India are Muslims (recently).

No doubt there is a lot of debate going on about the merits and demerits of granting Yakub the death sentence...His crimes too are serious .However, I am totally against death sentence because it does not deter the would be criminal one bit...I feel that they should be given life sentence , until death without parole, so that they repent their act each day !

Coming to Yakub Memon there are many grey areas.  It is not clear whether he surrendered or was captured. Mostly it appears he surrendered on his own and also gave a mine of information to RAW about activities of ISI. He at the most deserves a life sentence.

I was following a discussion 0n TV news channel where many of the people present were against death sentence for Memon because he had surrendered under the condition that he would give them information and he would not be given death sentence.It was also a fact that 2 or 3 attempts were carried out by Dawood gang to kill him while he was in police custody all of which he withstood...

I heard Asaduddin Owaisi's version. But my question is why the President and the Apex court refused his mercy pleas.. Are the above said agencies are not aware of the conditions under what conditions Yaqub surrendered ? The arrangements for his hanging are in full swing. He will be hanged on July 30 when the news was last heard.

rambabu wrote:

I heard Asaduddin Owaisi's version. But my question is why the President and the Apex court refused his mercy pleas.. Are the above said agencies are not aware of the conditions under what conditions Yaqub surrendered ? The arrangements for his hanging are in full swing. He will be hanged on July 30 when the news was last heard.

 

Thats what I have been thinking ! Pranab Mukherji is a Congressman and so he would not go against his party interests , as implied by others saying that muslims are targeted by the BJP rulers.. Supreme court is an independent body and often we have seen how they pull up the government when there is some wrong doings by them !

usha manohar wrote:

rambabu wrote:

I heard Asaduddin Owaisi's version. But my question is why the President and the Apex court refused his mercy pleas.. Are the above said agencies are not aware of the conditions under what conditions Yaqub surrendered ? The arrangements for his hanging are in full swing. He will be hanged on July 30 when the news was last heard.

 

Thats what I have been thinking ! Pranab Mukherji is a Congressman and so he would not go against his party interests , as implied by others saying that muslims are targeted by the BJP rulers.. Supreme court is an independent body and often we have seen how they pull up the government when there is some wrong doings by them !

 

With all said and done, I'm of the firm opinion that Yaqub Memon should be hanged unto death on July 30 as scheduled. Law is blind about the deaths caused by this terrorist ?

law is law and its meant for everybody wheather it is me or you law see everybody with one eyes 

rambabu wrote:

I agree with what you said, " All are equal before the eyes of law." But not with your comment " Bias against minorities." had there been any bias, minorities would not have been enjoying all the priorities under the sun.

 

Law is administered by human. There is no doubt that bias- apparent or  in subconscious mind- works whatever you do. Anti Muslim ias is very wide.  The Hindu oppressed classes got all the privileges like reservation in services but Muslims remained less educated and backward. This is bias. In fact, if a SAcheduled caste person becomes Muslim or Christian, his facilities are taken away.  It cannot be denied that the adminsitartyor of law are not unbiased.  I'm not referring to any particular case.  

 

Yes. In the eyes of law all are equal. There is no discrimination. It is same for all be it a prince or a pauper.

The murders of Rajiv Gandhi and Beant Singh were crimes against individuals but in case of Memon he is guilty of serial blasts that killed hundreds of innocent people and injured several times more. There is no comparison in between these cases.

Exactly. Taking into consideration the amount of loss of human lives and property, Yaqum Memon should be hanged unto death on July 30 as scheduled. This  monster doesn't deserve any sympathy. He is an enemy to the humanity.

rambabu wrote:

Exactly. Taking into consideration the amount of loss of human lives and property, Yaqum Memon should be hanged unto death on July 30 as scheduled. This  monster doesn't deserve any sympathy. He is an enemy to the humanity.

 

I totally agree with you except that it is going to make him a martyr and elevates him in the eyes of terrorists and his followers...Keeping him alive locked up, helpless until his last day is more severe a punishment ...

Some members have stated the both the President and Supreme Court have rejected mercy pleas and must be ib know of the fact that Yakub was promised that he would not be hanged upon his surrendering. The latter may be true. The President, even if was a Congressman, cannot exercise his discretion and is duty bound to go by the advice of the Govt. the Supreme Court takes decisions strictly on the basis of what is presented before it. The deal with Yakub may have been not presented before them. In this connection it is worth noting the article by late Mr Raman in charge of Pakistan operations in RAW where he clearly says Yakub should not have been given death sentence as it was breach of a deal under which he surrendered and also motivated nearly seven of his relatives also to do so.

suni51 wrote:

The murders of Rajiv Gandhi and Beant Singh were crimes against individuals but in case of Memon he is guilty of serial blasts that killed hundreds of innocent people and injured several times more. There is no comparison in between these cases.

 

Then why where they awarded death sentences? So now a mathematical formula needs to be evolved to lonking numer murders and death sentence punishment.

I read the article. His concluding lines are worth noting. Here they are

"In all likelihood, Yakub Memon's fate has been sealed. But there will always be an alternate school of thought about him being sent to the gallows, and not necessarily from the 'sickular' or 'left wing'. A nationalist officer who orchestrated the entire operation also believed in the same thing. There lies the significance in B Raman's article."

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-yakub-memon-death-sentence-raw-official-who-coordinated-operation-of-bringing-him-back-said-he-doesn-t-deserve-gallows-2107691

But you still want him to be hanged!!!

vijay wrote:

But you still want him to be hanged!!!

 

After reading this article of course I have to think again. But after reading the concluding lines of the article, I am in a fix. Because he said that there are other schools of thought which may differ. Anyhow, it is worth reading and come to a definitive conclusion.

If we compare the number of criminals hanged till date after independence, then the number of non-muslims hanged is much more greater. How can one say that in any way India is against muslims. People who are giving logic that giving death sentence to Yakub indicates against Muslims are trying to save a terrorist from death. Terrorist have no religion, all who are involved in killing of innocent people should be hanged.