Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth

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We all know about the world famous Koh-i-noor diamond which is now in possession of the royal family.The 109 carat diamond which was mined in India was presented to Queen Victoria during the British rule and is being demanded back now,,, Is it right to ask it back? Or should we simply forget about  Koh-i-noor and other artefacts some of which might have been taken away through dubious means.

Apparently a group of celebrities and Indian business men are planning to challenge the Queen legally over the issue , demanding the return of the Kohinoor diamond ! 

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Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:

Very interesting facts I came to know about Kohinoor through this thread. After reading all the valuable informations on Kohinoor it is certain now that it belongs to India so it should be returned to India. Now, as the question has come up regarding the protection of the gem then it is really a matter to think about. It must be protected in the best possible way.

Indians are hardly known for preserving and protecting our priceless heritage, be it architecture, priceless rare idols, paintings or whatever. Once, there was a roaring trade of smuggled items that contained rare, beautiful and most exquisitely made stone and brass idols stolen from temples across the country. The thieves and smugglers all were Indians who did not give even a bit of thought that the stuff they were stealing and selling to Europeans and Americans were pride and prestige of our country. The smuggling also could not have been possible if the lawmakers and lawkeepers had been even a little more efficient than they are now. It is possibly courtesy or positive relation-building efforts undertaken by Modi that some countries have volunteered and started to return a few of our such artefacts.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/10/05/merkel-durga-idol_n_8243926.html

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/australian-art-gallery-to-return-2000-year-old-buddha-idol-to-india/

However, I still maintain that unless more robust and professional efforts are taken and implemented to preserve and protect such things, we should not bring them back. Because I have seen many museums in India where the conditions that are needed to preserve such rare, centuries old items are not maintained and they gradually fall prey to deterioration. I know that only the Prince of Wales Museum in Mumbai takes such efforts for a fact. Only those museums that are capable of maintaining such needed conditions and providing security should attempt to house such rare priceless artifacts.

I am of he same opinion...You never know what would happen to Kohinoor once its is brought here ! As long as it is in Britain it is being displayed there in the royal gallery and one is aware of its whereabouts but once here it will be shrouded in mystery and over a period of time it may vanish like important files and artifacts disappear from time to time.

In present day India fake Kohi-i-noor will be on display and the real one will be on auction at Christies. Better  it lies where it is.

the koh-i-noor diamond is a part of India history and it should be returned to India voluntarily  

According to the history, Koh- i- noor is believed to have been mined in the Kollur mine in the Guntur district of Andhra Pradesh, during the reign of Kakatiya dynasty in the 13 th century. It was installed in a Hindu goddess as her eve.

 But David Cameroon, who is presently in India said in no certain terms that Koh- i-noor will not be returned back to India.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/21/koh-i-noor-diamond-not-returned-india-david-cameron-insists-pictures_n_2732342.html

 

 

usha manohar wrote:

Kohinoor has history attached to it and it is not easy to bring it back easily as and when India feels like it ...Of course legal angles will be tried out but whether anyone would succeed is something we have to wait and see since it involves too many red tape ..

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/11/returning-treasures-kohinoor-diamond-india-british-museum

What is in trying? Claims and leave the rest for God.

 

Kohinoor has to be snatched from the British as they did it from us. Niceties are not going to bring it back. Even the PM is silent on the issue. It needs a different mind set to get it back. FDI seeking Indians can not get it back.

As much as everyone would love to see the precious gem back here where it belongs, I think it should be challenged, it does seem like a very difficult task .It's surrender was one of the terms/clauses of the Treaty of Lahore . And even if India succeeds, where should it go thereafter? There would be plenty of claimants within the country itself . And as discussed earlier, who can guarantee its fate would not be something like Tagore's Nobel prize medal ??

Lopamudra wrote:

As much as everyone would love to see the precious gem back here where it belongs, I think it should be challenged, it does seem like a very difficult task .It's surrender was one of the terms/clauses of the Treaty of Lahore . And even if India succeeds, where should it go thereafter? There would be plenty of claimants within the country itself . And as discussed earlier, who can guarantee its fate would not be something like Tagore's Nobel prize medal ??

Exactly my thoughts! And as Usha too has mentioned previously that as long as it is displayed in the Royal museum in London, it is safe and everyone is aware of its whereabouts. But once it comes back to India, there will be a lot of ugly dramas regarding its claim and then the usual inefficiency involved in preserving and protecting it. It is safe where it is already present.

India will fight  tooth and nail and will not hesitate to use all its available resources at its disposal. But , it certainty is a Herculean task for India. Especially, David Cameroon's statement, the PM of Britain when he said, Koh - I - Noor will not be returned to India during Indian PM's visit to Britain.

 

Modi has not gone to get back Kohinoor and neither has David Cameroon commented on it now. His comments were made sometime back...However, since the whole Kohinoor affair remains a mystery without much proof , it may be difficult to bring it back although most Indians would naturally want it to be restored to its place of origin !

rambabu wrote:

You are right. It were I who mistook it. David Cameroon said that Koh-I-noor will not be returned to India during his recent visit to India.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282104/The-Koh-noor-diamond-stay-Britain-says-Cameron-rules-returning-gem-India-final-day-visit.html

Actually, Kohinoor is not an issue either with Britain or India. The main issues are combating terrorism, mutual cooperation in commerce and cultural affairs.  

 

 

 

 

 

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:

You are right. It were I who mistook it. David Cameroon said that Koh-I-noor will not be returned to India during his recent visit to India.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282104/The-Koh-noor-diamond-stay-Britain-says-Cameron-rules-returning-gem-India-final-day-visit.html

Actually, Kohinoor is not an issue either with Britain or India. The main issues are combating terrorism, mutual cooperation in commerce and cultural affairs.  

 

 

 

 

 

True...I concur, these issues have become even more grave now with the recent ISIS attacks on Paris. THe whole of Western and Asian world needs to be united as one to combat this growing menace. Issues regarding property and wealth rights can be sorted out at a later date.

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:

You are right. It were I who mistook it. David Cameroon said that Koh-I-noor will not be returned to India during his recent visit to India.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282104/The-Koh-noor-diamond-stay-Britain-says-Cameron-rules-returning-gem-India-final-day-visit.html

Actually, Kohinoor is not an issue either with Britain or India. The main issues are combating terrorism, mutual cooperation in commerce and cultural affairs.  

 

 

 

 

 

True...I concur, these issues have become even more grave now with the recent ISIS attacks on Paris. THe whole of Western and Asian world needs to be united as one to combat this growing menace. Issues regarding property and wealth rights can be sorted out at a later date.

Absolutely so ! Terrorism is the biggest threat we have today and while the Arabian nations go all out to fund terrorists when problems arise hey expect the western world to take care of the mess they have created like it happened with the refugees.Now it is the terrorists who came in the guise of refugees that have executed this terror strike in Paris...We in India have similar problems which is made worse by our greedy and power hungry politicians ..

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