This has been going on and on for decades now and finally the US supreme court has gone ahead and granted same sex couples the right to marry. This judgment will definitely have an impact on the gay and lesbian community here in India as well since they have been asking for such rights here since a few years now...
Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
Even neighbors, friends and relatives will be confused. whom to address as 'madam' or Bhabhiji and whom to call 'Bhai Saheb'. The children in the join t family will be confusesd about identifying 'uncle' or aunt. Suppose that one male is to act as 'wife'- why not straight marry a real woman instead of same sex.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
Even neighbors, friends and relatives will be confused. whom to address as 'madam' or Bhabhiji and whom to call 'Bhai Saheb'. The children in the join t family will be confusesd about identifying 'uncle' or aunt. Suppose that one male is to act as 'wife'- why not straight marry a real woman instead of same sex.
But the verdict on same sex marriages is being hailed all over the world including President Obama. He said A new chapter has been opened for the equality of rights. I don't know how these same sex marriages are looked as A triumph for those who think that same sex marriages are A statement that emphasizes the "Equal rights."
rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
Even neighbors, friends and relatives will be confused. whom to address as 'madam' or Bhabhiji and whom to call 'Bhai Saheb'. The children in the join t family will be confusesd about identifying 'uncle' or aunt. Suppose that one male is to act as 'wife'- why not straight marry a real woman instead of same sex.
But the verdict on same sex marriages is being hailed all over the world including President Obama. He said A new chapter has been opened for the equality of rights. I don't know how these same sex marriages are looked as A triumph for those who think that same sex marriages are A statement that emphasizes the "Equal rights."
I read you in a post recently that if it happened in India, Indians will oppose it but the fact is we have a law which permits the act opposition or no opposition
http://indiandost.com/gay_right_main.php
rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
Even neighbors, friends and relatives will be confused. whom to address as 'madam' or Bhabhiji and whom to call 'Bhai Saheb'. The children in the join t family will be confusesd about identifying 'uncle' or aunt. Suppose that one male is to act as 'wife'- why not straight marry a real woman instead of same sex.
But the verdict on same sex marriages is being hailed all over the world including President Obama. He said A new chapter has been opened for the equality of rights. I don't know how these same sex marriages are looked as A triumph for those who think that same sex marriages are A statement that emphasizes the "Equal rights."
It has now been proven that there are some people whose sexual preferences are not what is termed as "normal" by most people and we have to respect that .In fact there are references to the same sex attraction even in our scriptures.. It may be opposed and people with such preferences may be looked down but like other human beings they too are entitled to their rights - whether it is marriage or raising kids ...
usha manohar wrote:rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:Even now there is no baqn on any males living together. But trhey are not considered as married couple. They are better known as friends or room mates. Even if you recongize them as married, this is not normal or natrural family as understood generally. They can't have naturally born children of their own. But they may adopt children from natural fanilies. Now such child will be confused as to which one is papa or mom. This type of same sex couple is really amazing and funny.
Well said sir. Even they adopt a child, as you said the child will be in a confusion to identify Papa and Mama. It evoked laughter in me.
Even neighbors, friends and relatives will be confused. whom to address as 'madam' or Bhabhiji and whom to call 'Bhai Saheb'. The children in the join t family will be confusesd about identifying 'uncle' or aunt. Suppose that one male is to act as 'wife'- why not straight marry a real woman instead of same sex.
But the verdict on same sex marriages is being hailed all over the world including President Obama. He said A new chapter has been opened for the equality of rights. I don't know how these same sex marriages are looked as A triumph for those who think that same sex marriages are A statement that emphasizes the "Equal rights."
It has now been proven that there are some people whose sexual preferences are not what is termed as "normal" by most people and we have to respect that .In fact there are references to the same sex attraction even in our scriptures.. It may be opposed and people with such preferences may be looked down but like other human beings they too are entitled to their rights - whether it is marriage or raising kids ...
I agree. Everyone has a right to his or her preferences. As a good citizen either respect others preferences or getaway.
We don't deny different sexual needs or diversions. But it is improper to consider same sex couples as husband and wife. This is mockery. We may be very liberal but have to see and do things in right perspective. You may sympathise with some body with weak eyesight but you can't say that his sight is normal. Similarly same sex couple may not be harassed but it will be mockery of social and family system to accept them at par with normal couples.
"Improper" is a relative word. Not absolute."Improper" may be for a tradition bound country like India. But not for those people in many countries.
http://theweek.com/articles/465579/13-countries-where-gay-marriage-legal-updated
rambabu wrote:"Improper" is a relative word. Not absolute."Improper" may be for a tradition bound country like India. But not for those people in many countries.
http://theweek.com/articles/465579/13-countries-where-gay-marriage-legal-updated
They are also permissive. We may also be permissive. But one has to be totally blind not to differentiate between normal family of male husband and female wife with children on one hand and so called family consisting of male husband and male wife or female husband and female wife with children adopted either orphaned or donated by normal families.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:rambabu wrote:"Improper" is a relative word. Not absolute."Improper" may be for a tradition bound country like India. But not for those people in many countries.
http://theweek.com/articles/465579/13-countries-where-gay-marriage-legal-updated
They are also permissive. We may also be permissive. But one has to be totally blind not to differentiate between normal family of male husband and female wife with children on one hand and so called family consisting of male husband and male wife or female husband and female wife with children adopted either orphaned or donated by normal families.
True sir. Gays are concerned with the Natural phenomenon and begetting children. What all they are concerned with is Staying together like man and Wife.
And the law is concerned about if living together two males or two females is feasible or not.. The law is concerned about a long fight for the Gay Marriages. The law settled the issue and washed off it's hands. This is what I understood.
Normal is different to different people.In some families taking liquor by ladies is not concerned normal , a man doing so is normal , whereas a father or a uncle molesting a girl is kept a secret just so that the family name and honor remains intact...Ours is a nation of double standards , so we need not bother about these so called "normal" people.What is relevant is a few points
1, First of all Sexual preference is a very personal matter
2, Criminal activities are far more dangerous than gay or lesbian marriage rights and we see criminal tendencies rampant in our society.
3, Gay and Lesbian marriage once legalised will take its own course, as to who will be the father and who will take the role of mother or whether they are going to do away with any role definition is something they will decide for themselves...
As an example, let us see an Indian marriage. After the marriage, the husband and wife take the responsibility of solving their own family problems. Starting from children education, health etc. Parents of both the wife and husband will not interfere . In some cases in laws interference is vehemently refused too. Akin to this gay couple too make their adopted children (if they choose to adopt) know who's their mother and father.
I think, this's what Usha said.
It requires courage and a level of high maturity to take such pioneering steps like recognizing same sex marriages as legal. US has done it and as usual the world is hailing them. In India we lack courage to take bold steps in all areas and only do armchair discussions and pass comments left and right. WE believe that millions of miles away planets are responsible for our lives. In all same sex relationships there usually is one passive and one active member and those who know them know who is what.
rambabu wrote:As an example, let us see an Indian marriage. After the marriage, the husband and wife take the responsibility of solving their own family problems. Starting from children education, health etc. Parents of both the wife and husband will not interfere . In some cases in laws interference is vehemently refused too. Akin to this gay couple too make their adopted children (if they choose to adopt) know who's their mother and father.
I think, this's what Usha said.
What I actually meant was - whether the gay marriages would be conventional like what a marriage between a man and woman would be, because obviously it will not be the same in some respects ..But emotions and maternal, paternal feelings are the same and why should they not be good parents ?
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