This is a common scenario, every year in every state such results come in to newspapers some of which make you laugh while some of them make you think about standard of their basic knowledge and just how did they manage to pass their other exams.

It is very true. The decline in standards is an all India phenomenon. We are living in such times that students are being encouraged to shy away from hard work. Dreamy goals are being sold to them without ever stressing the learning aspect of education.

Either good teachers are busy in tuition business or they are afraid to take the task with students since they do not want to listen to them or do not attend classes. Or we have teachers who do not know what to teach or whom to teach while most students are not attending classes. I am not sure about other states but in most universities have allowed private colleges including tech. Colleges in UP running courses in Engg, education, management and even medicine are doing nothing but issuing certificates and degrees. No, you cannot expect the students coming out of these to be competent.

This is a common scenario, every year in every state such results come in to newspapers some of which make you laugh while some of them make you think about standard of their basic knowledge and just how did they manage to pass their other exams.

It is very true. The decline in standards is an all India phenomenon. We are living in such times that students are being encouraged to shy away from hard work. Dreamy goals are being sold to them without ever stressing the learning aspect of education.

Either good teachers are busy in tuition business or they are afraid to take the task with students since they do not want to listen to them or do not attend classes. Or we have teachers who do not know what to teach or whom to teach while most students are not attending classes. I am not sure about other states but in most university have allowed private colleges including tech. Colleges in UP running courses in Engg, education, management and even medicine are doing nothing but issuing certificates and degrees. No, you cannot expect the students coming out of these to be competent.

Education scenario is same in all states. Education has been commercialised. A big business. In AP,house to house campaigns are going on. " Get a 50% reduction in the fees for your child if you bring two other children." is an offer in vogue here, of course this is a secret adjustment between the management and the parents.

One is not sure whether the tuition business is thriving becaause of bad teachers or because there is aan alternative teachers dont take the trouble to teach...In my city there is one such Institute called Expert coaching which has won awards :unsure: and last month the staff and some of the students went on a tour to Asian countries part fubded by some prominent educational institutes.So we can see how things are ...This is true of almost all the cities across India...

According to a survey a test conducted by the Nitish Government shows that more than 10,000 teachers failed the basic test. According to some surveys conducted by the media the teachers were totally clueless about the most basic things.
Nistish cannot be blamed completely since this has been going on since Lalu's time...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-10000-Bihar-teachers-fail-Class-V-Mathematics-Hindi-test/articleshow/26461219.cms

Selection procedure in Rajasthan is much tough. Only eligible candidates are getting government jobs here.

The selection process is tough in all competetive exams in most of the states ( although in Bihar that too was overlooked ) but there are reservations and also those who get in through political influence...

Reservation in selecting teachers is what one of the worst thing I feel. :evil: May be most of the teachers who failed were of this category. :lol:

That may not be true! But it certainly brings down the standard for selection since they get selected even if they have the bare minimum requirements...

Definitely but its sad to see that being a teacher they could not pass the basic test which they should. May be the level of the test was high. :blink:

Ypu probably did not go through the link, because it is clearly mentioned that it was primary 5 level maths and hindi that was the test material..

No I read the article. I said may be the level of the test was high so the result was not 100%. :blink:

24% teachers failed. Anything can happen in Bihar. :evil:

And why target Bihar in particular, the state that produces most IAS every year. This is only an example about bad teachers but it happens in almost all exams. You know most police officers never qualify the fitness tests later and they fail more as much they become senior. Now you cannot expect them to catch a chain snatcher running after him. :whistle:

According to a survey a test conducted by the Nitish Government shows that more than 10,000 teachers failed the basic test. According to some surveys conducted by the media the teachers were totally clueless about the most basic things.
Nistish cannot be blamed completely since this has been going on since Lalu's time...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-10000-Bihar-teachers-fail-Class-V-Mathematics-Hindi-test/articleshow/26461219.cms

Selection procedure in Rajasthan is much tough. Only eligible candidates are getting government jobs here.

The selection process is tough in all competetive exams in most of the states ( although in Bihar that too was overlooked ) but there are reservations and also those who get in through political influence...

Reservation in selecting teachers is what one of the worst thing I feel. :evil: May be most of the teachers who failed were of this category. :lol:

That may not be true! But it certainly brings down the standard for selection since they get selected even if they have the bare minimum requirements...

Definitely but its sad to see that being a teacher they could not pass the basic test which they should. May be the level of the test was high. :blink:

Ypu probably did not go through the link, because it is clearly mentioned that it was primary 5 level maths and hindi that was the test material..

No I read the article. I said may be the level of the test was high so the result was not 100%. :blink:

24% teachers failed. Anything can happen in Bihar. :evil:

And why target Bihar in particular, the state that produces most IAS every year. This is only an example about bad teachers but it happens in almost all exams. You know most police officers never qualify the fitness tests later and they fail more as much they become senior. Now you cannot expect them to catch a chain snatcher running after him. :whistle:

Bihar produces the most IAS, it is surprising but true, perhaps private schooling is better there, or any other reason for this?

According to a survey a test conducted by the Nitish Government shows that more than 10,000 teachers failed the basic test. According to some surveys conducted by the media the teachers were totally clueless about the most basic things.
Nistish cannot be blamed completely since this has been going on since Lalu's time...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-10000-Bihar-teachers-fail-Class-V-Mathematics-Hindi-test/articleshow/26461219.cms

Selection procedure in Rajasthan is much tough. Only eligible candidates are getting government jobs here.

The selection process is tough in all competetive exams in most of the states ( although in Bihar that too was overlooked ) but there are reservations and also those who get in through political influence...

Reservation in selecting teachers is what one of the worst thing I feel. :evil: May be most of the teachers who failed were of this category. :lol:

That may not be true! But it certainly brings down the standard for selection since they get selected even if they have the bare minimum requirements...

Definitely but its sad to see that being a teacher they could not pass the basic test which they should. May be the level of the test was high. :blink:

Ypu probably did not go through the link, because it is clearly mentioned that it was primary 5 level maths and hindi that was the test material..

No I read the article. I said may be the level of the test was high so the result was not 100%. :blink:

24% teachers failed. Anything can happen in Bihar. :evil:

And why target Bihar in particular, the state that produces most IAS every year. This is only an example about bad teachers but it happens in almost all exams. You know most police officers never qualify the fitness tests later and they fail more as much they become senior. Now you cannot expect them to catch a chain snatcher running after him. :whistle:

I agree. There is nothing wrong about Bihar. Malpractices are everywhere. Good practices are also everywhere. Bihar has talent.. That is why many from Bihar getr success in academic and administreative fileds.

According to a survey a test conducted by the Nitish Government shows that more than 10,000 teachers failed the basic test. According to some surveys conducted by the media the teachers were totally clueless about the most basic things.
Nistish cannot be blamed completely since this has been going on since Lalu's time...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-10000-Bihar-teachers-fail-Class-V-Mathematics-Hindi-test/articleshow/26461219.cms

Selection procedure in Rajasthan is much tough. Only eligible candidates are getting government jobs here.

The selection process is tough in all competetive exams in most of the states ( although in Bihar that too was overlooked ) but there are reservations and also those who get in through political influence...

Reservation in selecting teachers is what one of the worst thing I feel. :evil: May be most of the teachers who failed were of this category. :lol:

That may not be true! But it certainly brings down the standard for selection since they get selected even if they have the bare minimum requirements...

Definitely but its sad to see that being a teacher they could not pass the basic test which they should. May be the level of the test was high. :blink:

Ypu probably did not go through the link, because it is clearly mentioned that it was primary 5 level maths and hindi that was the test material..

No I read the article. I said may be the level of the test was high so the result was not 100%. :blink:

24% teachers failed. Anything can happen in Bihar. :evil:

And why target Bihar in particular, the state that produces most IAS every year. This is only an example about bad teachers but it happens in almost all exams. You know most police officers never qualify the fitness tests later and they fail more as much they become senior. Now you cannot expect them to catch a chain snatcher running after him. :whistle:

Why target Bihar ? because they have come up with their statistics whih shows the pathetic state of the standard of teachers..It may be better or even worse in some other states ...

One is not sure whether the tuition business is thriving becaause of bad teachers or because there is aan alternative teachers dont take the trouble to teach...In my city there is one such Institute called Expert coaching which has won awards :unsure: and last month the staff and some of the students went on a tour to Asian countries part fubded by some prominent educational institutes.So we can see how things are ...This is true of almost all the cities across India...

Tuition business is thriving because they have a strong nexus with founders of schools, especially in my state, majority of the schools and higher education institutes are founded by politicos who became rich all thanks to co-operative banking sector and sugar factories. While people who invested in these banks and farmers who grew sugarcane for the factories all grew poorer, these politicians became rich so they founded schools etc. and employed teachers who also taught in private classes. So teachers are seen less enthusiastic while teaching in schools and more active in classes. Students who could not and cannot afford to pay extra for private classes lagged behind except for some who managed brilliantly on their own!

Do you remember the episode in Tarak Mehta ka Ooltah Chashma where Bhide's daughter stood first in school and a private coaching class claimed she was there student? It is based on real-life drama that happened in a very big and renowned coaching class in Maharashtra.

So in effect, now the quality of education or the meritocracy of teachers is not at all what m,atters but what matters is who has got the most money! In my state, for getting a job as permanet teacher in govt. school, I have heard the going rate is rs. 10,00,000! :blink:

Competent or incompetent, if one works for the ruling party he can get a teaching job or for that matter other jobs in the government sector. This was perfected by the last LF government in Bengal and likely to continue in the present regime. Be it Lalu or Nitish, this is a vote bank creation any politician may indulge in.

Competent or incompetent, if one works for the ruling party he can get a teaching job or for that matter other jobs in the government sector. This was perfected by the last LF government in Bengal and likely to continue in the present regime. Be it Lalu or Nitish, this is a vote bank creation any politician may indulge in.

Not only Bihar or WB, but all over the country it works the same way. either loosen sackfuls of money or bring a politician to claim he or she is your brother, sister, father, uncle, chacha, mama etc. to get job as a teacher! :blink: