US court issues summons against our PM Manmohan singh !

The whole idea of having a democracy is to function in a transparent manner so that all are treated equally and all dealings that are concerning the state are made public....There is neither any need for secrecy nor is it the right thing to do ! That is how a dictatorship is born, when things are kept in the dark and one person makes all the decisions, which is almost what is happening now in India...

Transparency is okay but there is limit. You cannot go on broadcasting tiny details. Even the top management does not ask the junior manager every tiny details on what they do. We have delegated authority to the ruling alliance to manage the affairs of the country. This delegation has to be genuine. There is no sense putting questions on every minor issue or expecting them to explain everything- howsoever insignificant this may be.

One member remarked in a post that we should respect courts of our countries. We respect every institution, every human being, every country- but we can never allow them to interfere with our sovereignty. No court outside India has jurisdiction on matters in India and stating this fact is not disrespect to any court.

I think this is the case of "The dogs bark but the caravan moves on" or "dogs bark, but the elephant pays no attention and just keeps on walking" let the dogs bark. :evil:

US has other problems to solve, as they are amidst other financial crisis and still they are keep harping on showing their big brother status.

The government doesnt have any say here, it is the courts and the sikh fgroups that are sending out summons because the sikh groups feel that they have been wronged and feel that they may never get justice on Indian soil, so they are trying what they can, so why drag the US government into this ?

In a way this case has nothing to do with US federal government, an independent group began this and the court accepted it but still it feels unethical in hearing all these.

Actually such groups are present in almost every country, which the countries concerned think are outlaw but the groups think that they were fighting a justified war. If you look in our own country, we defend Tibetans, Tamil groups of SL, Bangladeshis from erstwhile East Pakistan etc sympathetically but find such group in other countries unlawful. This is everywhere and to keep themselves in light such groups adopt to every possible methods, same is the case with this summon which has nothing to do on governmental level on either side. It is in between Soniya, Manmohan and that particular Sikh group. Therefore no use blaming US for all this.

Our support to Dalai Lama and his continuous anti China activities are a major cause of our bitter relation with China. Obviously, we exceeded the humane help. It would suffice to give asylum but it was wrong to allow them any anti China activities from our soil. However, presently, government of India has no direct role in the activities by Tibetan groups. But there is need for greater caution not to allow any insurgent groups of other countries to indulge in undesirable activities. We shall not like any anti India activities by Kashmiri, Sikh or other terrorist groups in other countries. Similarly we should respect sovereignty of other countries and not allow any insurgent activities from our land in name of human rights or whatsoever.

One should challenge the mightier only when he is capable of facing the consequences. India should have known better when they played with the idea of supporting warring groups in other countries. We are facing the music until now. Either we should have power to fight back or do not mess up with things beyond our control.

During Indira Gandhis time many blunders were made which cost the country a lot of loss and life long misery, Rajeev Gandhi too was a blunderer and now Sonia Gandhi may be going one step further with her greed for power...Manmohan Singh has been aiding all her misdeeds by being a mute spectator which is even worse !

During Indira Gandhis time many blunders were made which cost the country a lot of loss and life long misery, Rajeev Gandhi too was a blunderer and now Sonia Gandhi may be going one step further with her greed for power...Manmohan Singh has been aiding all her misdeeds by being a mute spectator which is even worse !

It started right from the time of Nehru, the non-aligned movement was enough to irritate big powers. Then came the Tibet issue which changed the tied for this ill managed poor country. The US and China which could be our natural allies are standing on the other side of the fence. Example of Japan is for every one to see, they took full advantage of molding the designs of aggressor in their own favor.

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

USSR charged big money for very poor technology and never parted bit its manufacturing process until far later. By then our country had been flooded by the very old, heavy technology which left us far behind other fast developing nations.

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

USSR charged big money for very poor technology and never parted bit its manufacturing process until far later. By then our country had been flooded by the very old, heavy technology which left us far behind other fast developing nations.

US is an expert at such games where countries are fighting for their favor ! Why should India bend backwards to be recognised by them, instead work towards making the nation strong and self reliant ! Nehru was the culprit where USSR was concerned, he bumbled his way through his psuedo socialism only to make the country a laughing stock ! We are still sufferig from his past mistakes..

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

USSR charged big money for very poor technology and never parted bit its manufacturing process until far later. By then our country had been flooded by the very old, heavy technology which left us far behind other fast developing nations.

US is an expert at such games where countries are fighting for their favor ! Why should India bend backwards to be recognised by them, instead work towards making the nation strong and self reliant ! Nehru was the culprit where USSR was concerned, he bumbled his way through his psuedo socialism only to make the country a laughing stock ! We are still sufferig from his past mistakes..

Exactly..we do not need recognition from countries like US, we already have enough resources to make ourselves self-reliant, but no, our leaders do not see it that way, like Nehru present day leaders are busy making laughing stock of ourselves elsewhere with the result that even a small nation such as Bangladesh whom we helped to liberate also now laughs at us!

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

USSR charged big money for very poor technology and never parted bit its manufacturing process until far later. By then our country had been flooded by the very old, heavy technology which left us far behind other fast developing nations.

US is an expert at such games where countries are fighting for their favor ! Why should India bend backwards to be recognised by them, instead work towards making the nation strong and self reliant ! Nehru was the culprit where USSR was concerned, he bumbled his way through his psuedo socialism only to make the country a laughing stock ! We are still sufferig from his past mistakes..

Exactly..we do not need recognition from countries like US, we already have enough resources to make ourselves self-reliant, but no, our leaders do not see it that way, like Nehru present day leaders are busy making laughing stock of ourselves elsewhere with the result that even a small nation such as Bangladesh whom we helped to liberate also now laughs at us!

I was reasing today how a planned genocide of killing hindus had taken place in Bangladesh and how the congress party had tried to evade the issue because US did not give much importance to it..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

Still to date, US s supporting Pakistan in most fronts, the fall of erstwhile USSR seemed to be the most precarious situation for India, as then it had to revert back to the support of US and its allies and after almost over 15 years still to date there is no open support for India from US and its allies.

USSR charged big money for very poor technology and never parted bit its manufacturing process until far later. By then our country had been flooded by the very old, heavy technology which left us far behind other fast developing nations.

US is an expert at such games where countries are fighting for their favor ! Why should India bend backwards to be recognised by them, instead work towards making the nation strong and self reliant ! Nehru was the culprit where USSR was concerned, he bumbled his way through his psuedo socialism only to make the country a laughing stock ! We are still sufferig from his past mistakes..

Exactly..we do not need recognition from countries like US, we already have enough resources to make ourselves self-reliant, but no, our leaders do not see it that way, like Nehru present day leaders are busy making laughing stock of ourselves elsewhere with the result that even a small nation such as Bangladesh whom we helped to liberate also now laughs at us!

I was reasing today how a planned genocide of killing hindus had taken place in Bangladesh and how the congress party had tried to evade the issue because US did not give much importance to it..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

I had read about this some time back. Whatever is important for US is important and crucial to our leaders, whatever is not, it is ignored by our leaders. I really do not understand how far more this attitude can be carried more? Is it going to take a full-scale revolt throughout the country to wake up to the reality for our leaders? :blink:

We do not have leaders who can come up with original ideas. That is the main reason they look for trend setters and who better than US who has a say in every matter whether or not in their jurisdiction.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Absolutely, ours respect with neighboring countries are falling flat coupling with humiliation and verbal attacks, My heart felt pain when ours beloved soldiers who are working for motherland beheaded and offended. We are for sure not a sleeping country residing in morning dreams.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

A strong and determined leader can turn the table against any adverse circumstances, like a Dhoni, who scored a wonderful century to reach a respectable score when most batters failed to impress.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

As long as we continue with our slavish mentality and sychopancy there will be no better tomorrow...I see many non resident Indians longing to come back to their own country only to get totally disillusioned with the system since they have seen and experienced better ! How can mind set change since it gets passed on from generation to generation...

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

As long as we continue with our slavish mentality and sychopancy there will be no better tomorrow...I see many non resident Indians longing to come back to their own country only to get totally disillusioned with the system since they have seen and experienced better ! How can mind set change since it gets passed on from generation to generation...

We all need work to change conditions in our country. But a patriot would prefer his own country. I can only pity those who wait for conditions to improve before they can come to India. It is better they forget India and live happily where they are. We are in India whether the conditions are good or bad. Those who wait for things to improve are unwelcome.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

As long as we continue with our slavish mentality and sychopancy there will be no better tomorrow...I see many non resident Indians longing to come back to their own country only to get totally disillusioned with the system since they have seen and experienced better ! How can mind set change since it gets passed on from generation to generation...

We all need work to change conditions in our country. But a patriot would prefer his own country. I can only pity those who wait for conditions to improve before they can come to India. It is better they forget India and live happily where they are. We are in India whether the conditions are good or bad. Those who wait for things to improve are unwelcome.

The term patriot has lost its relevance now - A patriot according to many is one who puts up with any nonsense and goes around saying his country is great even when it is not ! Conditions get improved when the leaders perform and when you have no performing leaders and a population that is least bothered about changing the system , people are bound to get disillusioned with the system , does not mean they have no love for their country ! An Indian citizen no matter where he/she lives is always welcome in his country ! No one can take that right away from them...

When India developed so as the residents living here will feel cherished with the fruits of high degree of life, country as a whole when changes the same things happens all over.

India should try to be self sufficient and go for indigenous developing of defense system, that will remove the complete dependence on other countries about defense purchasing.

Our mind set and political system will nt let us do that ! Indians have a slavish mentality otherwise how does a Sonia Gandhi call the shots here and the congress leaders fall flat at her feet? or Pakistan walk all over us killing our army men left right and center, even Bangla desh show a dont care attitude? goes to show that we are a bunch of spineless beings easily overruled by others who have mental strenghth and know how to manipulate. This will not change in a century....

Agreed, Indians have not yet come out of dependency because they are independent and not FREE nation. Free from corruption, slave mentality, overawed with small happenings, over reactions etc etc. It will take another century before they will come to terms that too if they get the right kind of leadership.

As long as we continue with our slavish mentality and sychopancy there will be no better tomorrow...I see many non resident Indians longing to come back to their own country only to get totally disillusioned with the system since they have seen and experienced better ! How can mind set change since it gets passed on from generation to generation...

We all need work to change conditions in our country. But a patriot would prefer his own country. I can only pity those who wait for conditions to improve before they can come to India. It is better they forget India and live happily where they are. We are in India whether the conditions are good or bad. Those who wait for things to improve are unwelcome.

The term patriot has lost its relevance now - A patriot according to many is one who puts up with any nonsense and goes around saying his country is great even when it is not ! Conditions get improved when the leaders perform and when you have no performing leaders and a population that is least bothered about changing the system , people are bound to get disillusioned with the system , does not mean they have no love for their country ! An Indian citizen no matter where he/she lives is always welcome in his country ! No one can take that right away from them...

all are welcome but not those who will wait for us to make things better for them. We need improve our country for ourselves and not for those who will come only if we make things better for them.