Indian soldiers killed on Pakistan border!

By now a few thousand soldiers must have died in such a manner...and our government goes about as if it is not a matter that is of great concern ! This is precisely why we need a chage of scene at the center and hope the next elected government has a strong man at the helm of affairs and sends out clear messages to all concerned, soldiers and terrorists both from across the border that India cannot be fiddled around with and those who do will have to pay the price !

What all we know is placing wreaths on the brave soldiers' coffins, the moment they arrive here and renewing the warnings. The moment the Pak government denied about the incident, our defence minister backtracked. What more can we expect ?

By now a few thousand soldiers must have died in such a manner...and our government goes about as if it is not a matter that is of great concern ! This is precisely why we need a chage of scene at the center and hope the next elected government has a strong man at the helm of affairs and sends out clear messages to all concerned, soldiers and terrorists both from across the border that India cannot be fiddled around with and those who do will have to pay the price !

What all we know is placing wreaths on the brave soldiers' coffins, the moment they arrive here and renewing the warnings. The moment the Pak government denied about the incident, our defence minister backtracked. What more can we expect ?

What more do you expect, they are trying their best to win next election with a better majority to handle such issues with stronger hands.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Yes very true. But how the defence minister gave a clean chit to Pakistan that is contradicting the version of his own officials?

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Yes very true. But how the defence minister gave a clean chit to Pakistan that is contradicting the version of his own officials?

This is necessary to keep relations intact. We cannot blame any country unless we are strong enough, morally.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Yes very true. But how the defence minister gave a clean chit to Pakistan that is contradicting the version of his own officials?

This is necessary to keep relations intact. We cannot blame any country unless we are strong enough, morally.

To keep relations in tact are we going to boon our own territory ?

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Yes very true. But how the defence minister gave a clean chit to Pakistan that is contradicting the version of his own officials?

This is necessary to keep relations intact. We cannot blame any country unless we are strong enough, morally.

To keep relations in tact are we going to boon our own territory ?

Haven't we already surrendered thousands of kilometres to all countries surrounding us? We do not have what it takes to keep our self respect. We are in very bad hands. Our future is bleak, I am worried about our future generation.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Yes very true. But how the defence minister gave a clean chit to Pakistan that is contradicting the version of his own officials?

This is necessary to keep relations intact. We cannot blame any country unless we are strong enough, morally.

To keep relations in tact are we going to boon our own territory ?

Haven't we already surrendered thousands of kilometres to all countries surrounding us? We do not have what it takes to keep our self respect. We are in very bad hands. Our future is bleak, I am worried about our future generation.

Don't worry. Our future generation will inherit a country known as Bharat as big as the state of Kerala.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Since the Prime minister has only recently sworn into his post, it is hardly surprising! How many more times are we going to have a similar discussion? :blink:

Question - How do we know that they were terrorists in Pak army dress with heavy fire power?
Question 2- What were they doing on Pakistan border without knowledge of Pakistani security forces?
Question 3- Why our government does not accept the fact that our army persons were ambushed and killed by Pakistani army?
Question 4- Why a proper step is still pending to counter this attack and grab the culprits, or declaring our soldiers martyrs is enough?
Question 5- Shall we sing the old patriotic songs all over for few days and forget everything as usual?
WILL THERE BE A TIME TO WAKE UP ???

Your all questions are contemporary. Indeed it is character of we Indians to cry for some days are there after forget every thing. Our minister know. Indeed, for proper and hard step one should be have moral power. But our most of corrupt politicians have not this power. We needs Sardar Patel of Indira Gandhi.

Question - How do we know that they were terrorists in Pak army dress with heavy fire power?
Question 2- What were they doing on Pakistan border without knowledge of Pakistani security forces?
Question 3- Why our government does not accept the fact that our army persons were ambushed and killed by Pakistani army?
Question 4- Why a proper step is still pending to counter this attack and grab the culprits, or declaring our soldiers martyrs is enough?
Question 5- Shall we sing the old patriotic songs all over for few days and forget everything as usual?
WILL THERE BE A TIME TO WAKE UP ???

Your all questions are contemporary. Indeed it is character of we Indians to cry for some days are there after forget every thing. Our minister know. Indeed, for proper and hard step one should be have moral power. But our most of corrupt politicians have not this power. We needs Sardar Patel of Indira Gandhi.

We have tons of question but there is no one who will answer them. They are too busy making election strategies.

Question - How do we know that they were terrorists in Pak army dress with heavy fire power?
Question 2- What were they doing on Pakistan border without knowledge of Pakistani security forces?
Question 3- Why our government does not accept the fact that our army persons were ambushed and killed by Pakistani army?
Question 4- Why a proper step is still pending to counter this attack and grab the culprits, or declaring our soldiers martyrs is enough?
Question 5- Shall we sing the old patriotic songs all over for few days and forget everything as usual?
WILL THERE BE A TIME TO WAKE UP ???

Your all questions are contemporary. Indeed it is character of we Indians to cry for some days are there after forget every thing. Our minister know. Indeed, for proper and hard step one should be have moral power. But our most of corrupt politicians have not this power. We needs Sardar Patel of Indira Gandhi.

We have tons of question but there is no one who will answer them. They are too busy making election strategies.

Exactly. Its an attempt to grab as many votes as possible from their "Vote Bank ATMs."

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Since the Prime minister has only recently sworn into his post, it is hardly surprising! How many more times are we going to have a similar discussion? :blink:

LOL, it is like a merry go round, discusing the same topics under different headings ... :cheer:

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Since the Prime minister has only recently sworn into his post, it is hardly surprising! How many more times are we going to have a similar discussion? :blink:

LOL, it is like a merry go round, discusing the same topics under different headings ... :cheer:

The merry-go-round goes on unrelentingly and periodically at the border areas and the merry-go-round of similar discussions keep happening here too with regular intervals! There is no conclusion to it neither there is any solution, the answer to all is only one God Only Knows! :blink:

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Since the Prime minister has only recently sworn into his post, it is hardly surprising! How many more times are we going to have a similar discussion? :blink:

LOL, it is like a merry go round, discusing the same topics under different headings ... :cheer:

The merry-go-round goes on unrelentingly and periodically at the border areas and the merry-go-round of similar discussions keep happening here too with regular intervals! There is no conclusion to it neither there is any solution, the answer to all is only one God Only Knows! :blink:

The problem is that we are too defensive. Often offence is the best Defence. We need some times to tease our neighbors by border violations instead of always defending. It will also be better to rename Ministry of Defence as Ministry of military affairs.

Well, I saw this on TV too.. And Pakistan is saying that they have no hands in it.. well, its really hard to believe.

That is expected. Knowing Pakistan well all of us know that Pak will dismiss the allegations as baseless.

There is no sense in Pakistan claiming that they have no hand in killing Indian soldiers. It suffices that attack was from Pakistan territory. For us Pakistan army, terrorist operating there in whatever uniform- all mean one and same thing.

Exactly ! It is the responsibility of the country concerned to see that such irresponsible actions dont take place, one cannot play around with peoples lives...

Since the Prime minister has only recently sworn into his post, it is hardly surprising! How many more times are we going to have a similar discussion? :blink:

LOL, it is like a merry go round, discusing the same topics under different headings ... :cheer:

The merry-go-round goes on unrelentingly and periodically at the border areas and the merry-go-round of similar discussions keep happening here too with regular intervals! There is no conclusion to it neither there is any solution, the answer to all is only one God Only Knows! :blink:

The problem is that we are too defensive. Often offence is the best Defence. We need some times to tease our neighbors by border violations instead of always defending. It will also be better to rename Ministry of Defence as Ministry of military affairs.

Exactly! The merry-go-round goes on and on because we are only defensive and to a larger extent, too slovenly even to take action against such outrage. The disgusting incident where our soldiers were beheaded in such an inhuman manner is not so old, but we failed to take any action then, and consequently the fresh tragedy has occurred.

We need be more proactive. But jingoism and needless brave talk and threatening help as Baba Ramdev would suggest. He suggests thatif Modi were PM, he would get many Pakistan soldiers killed in retaliation. Now ask him what BJP did when they were in power. Our foreign minister handed over terrorists to them freeing them from jail. Jingoism is possible only when you are in opposition.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/editorial/dont-get-mired-in-anti-pakistan-jingoism/articleshow/21716703.cms

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/08/09/baba-ramdev-wants-revenge-against-pakistan-1279556.html

We need be more proactive. But jingoism and needless brave talk and threatening help as Baba Ramdev would suggest. He suggests thatif Modi were PM, he would get many Pakistan soldiers killed in retaliation. Now ask him what BJP did when they were in power. Our foreign minister handed over terrorists to them freeing them from jail. Jingoism is possible only when you are in opposition.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/editorial/dont-get-mired-in-anti-pakistan-jingoism/articleshow/21716703.cms

http://news.oneindia.in/2013/08/09/baba-ramdev-wants-revenge-against-pakistan-1279556.html

Baba Ramdev's futile talk need not be taken in to account. Anyhow Defense, minister Has issued a statement after a clarification from the army chief that Pakistan has killed 5 Indian jawans . And he has withdrawn his earlier statement.