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We all know how the people suffered with the recent recession (I don't think it is over yet and don't know if it become serious in the coming days) and this is the right time to discuss it as we all experienced it. So the topic is -
"With the recession in IT industry, is it better to go for a goverment job than private?"
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As per Topic "With the recession in IT industry, is it better to go for a goverment job than private?"
For Each & everybody time comes in two format. One thing is bad and another is good. From a long time IT field was going good but suddenly this recession changed the complete IT world for a limitted time. So many workers lost their jobs and some more people have done suicide due to unemployeement. But now IT field is came back with is power and a lot of jobs are coming in 2010.
Goverment Job: So many people wants to do goverment job, because there is not so much hard work in that job and so much facilities. Maximum chances in goverment job is your the boss of your self. But goverment job is the only job which makes people currupted. Its not an easy task to get a goverment job. A lot unfairs happen in test of goverment jobs, curruption is at our full position at the time of interview. The main thing is that so many rules which bounds us in govt policies, the pay is not so much good. In goverment job a promotion for an employee is very long task.
Government jobs have been considered safe with no or little threat of job loss, especially when job opportunities in the private sector were not.
Nevertheless, Government jobs have traditionally offered many perks which private jobs do not. Here are a few job benefits and reasons for choosing a government job over a one in the private sector.
Some benefits of Govt jobs :
Negative Points Of Goverment Jobs :
Private Jobs :
The private sector offers the maximum number of employment opportunities. This is true for any developing or developed country. Private sector jobs, even though they do not guarantee job security, offer high career potential growth opportunities. This is by far the biggest reason for their popularity along with the huge demand that they create. Job seekers often opt for private sector employment because of their fast paced and modern recruitment procedures. In the private sector, true talent is recognized and sought out by various selection techniques.
Benefits :
No, I don't think so it is better to go for goverment jobs then private because Goverment jobs has a very slow process and career growth is very less there. Some people thinks that they are safe in goverment jobs due to their facilities, but at current time private sectors are also giving all facilities. Its not easy to get the goverment job. If you have talent then you can easily get job in recession time also. Because if you are giving benefits to a company then why they will make you out from there company.
Just assume if 100000 people lost their jobs in recession, there how many get goverment jobs only near about max 1000. Its not easy to enter into goverment job. And goverment offers very less jobs to IT field. Make your talent comes out and you will easy get private jobs and live a royal financially free life.
For Each & everybody time comes in two format. One thing is bad and another is good. From a long time IT field was going good but suddenly this recession changed the complete IT world for a limitted time. So many workers lost their jobs and some more people have done suicide due to unemployeement. But now IT field is came back with is power and a lot of jobs are coming in 2010.
Goverment Job: So many people wants to do goverment job, because there is not so much hard work in that job and so much facilities. Maximum chances in goverment job is your the boss of your self. But goverment job is the only job which makes people currupted. Its not an easy task to get a goverment job. A lot unfairs happen in test of goverment jobs, curruption is at our full position at the time of interview. The main thing is that so many rules which bounds us in govt policies, the pay is not so much good. In goverment job a promotion for an employee is very long task.
Government jobs have been considered safe with no or little threat of job loss, especially when job opportunities in the private sector were not.
Nevertheless, Government jobs have traditionally offered many perks which private jobs do not. Here are a few job benefits and reasons for choosing a government job over a one in the private sector.
Some benefits of Govt jobs :
Negative Points Of Goverment Jobs :
Private Jobs :
The private sector offers the maximum number of employment opportunities. This is true for any developing or developed country. Private sector jobs, even though they do not guarantee job security, offer high career potential growth opportunities. This is by far the biggest reason for their popularity along with the huge demand that they create. Job seekers often opt for private sector employment because of their fast paced and modern recruitment procedures. In the private sector, true talent is recognized and sought out by various selection techniques.
Benefits :
No, I don't think so it is better to go for goverment jobs then private because Goverment jobs has a very slow process and career growth is very less there. Some people thinks that they are safe in goverment jobs due to their facilities, but at current time private sectors are also giving all facilities. Its not easy to get the goverment job. If you have talent then you can easily get job in recession time also. Because if you are giving benefits to a company then why they will make you out from there company.
Just assume if 100000 people lost their jobs in recession, there how many get goverment jobs only near about max 1000. Its not easy to enter into goverment job. And goverment offers very less jobs to IT field. Make your talent comes out and you will easy get private jobs and live a royal financially free life.
I dont blame time for my activities. We reap whatever we sow.
All are talking about lay off at the time of recession.
WE must understand one thing
the people who had lost their jobs have no other way than blaming themselves because the companies are still recruiting new employees.
How come its possible?
If you look at the people who lost their jobs the main reason was not recession alone. some other reasons were also considered. they are:
Those employees must be inactive or lazy
They were not serious at their works
they were not skilled enough
The company was closely watching them and the correct time to send them home was recession. They would have not lost their job if they were serious in their work.
Still the door is open for the skilled ones.
I strongly oppose government jobs because your career growth is simply nil.
All are talking about lay off at the time of recession.
WE must understand one thing
the people who had lost their jobs have no other way than blaming themselves because the companies are still recruiting new employees.
How come its possible?
If you look at the people who lost their jobs the main reason was not recession alone. some other reasons were also considered. they are:
Those employees must be inactive or lazy
They were not serious at their works
they were not skilled enough
The company was closely watching them and the correct time to send them home was recession. They would have not lost their job if they were serious in their work.
Still the door is open for the skilled ones.
I strongly oppose government jobs because your career growth is simply nil.
Dharanidaran wrote:
[quote]I dont blame time for my activities. We reap whatever we sow.
All are talking about lay off at the time of recession.
WE must understand one thing
the people who had lost their jobs have no other way than blaming themselves because the companies are still recruiting new employees.
How come its possible?
If you look at the people who lost their jobs the main reason was not recession alone. some other reasons were also considered. they are:
Those employees must be inactive or lazy
They were not serious at their works
they were not skilled enough
The company was closely watching them and the correct time to send them home was recession. They would have not lost their job if they were serious in their work.
Still the door is open for the skilled ones.
I strongly oppose government jobs because your career growth is simply nil.[/quote]
I am completely agree with you dear. If a employee is giving benefits to a company then why that company will amke him hout. So , in recession with IT related companies, only those persons lost their jobes which don't have so much importance at their work.
At the side of goverment jobs, its not easy to get and slow career growth, no acivements, no financial freedom.
[quote]I dont blame time for my activities. We reap whatever we sow.
All are talking about lay off at the time of recession.
WE must understand one thing
the people who had lost their jobs have no other way than blaming themselves because the companies are still recruiting new employees.
How come its possible?
If you look at the people who lost their jobs the main reason was not recession alone. some other reasons were also considered. they are:
Those employees must be inactive or lazy
They were not serious at their works
they were not skilled enough
The company was closely watching them and the correct time to send them home was recession. They would have not lost their job if they were serious in their work.
Still the door is open for the skilled ones.
I strongly oppose government jobs because your career growth is simply nil.[/quote]
I am completely agree with you dear. If a employee is giving benefits to a company then why that company will amke him hout. So , in recession with IT related companies, only those persons lost their jobes which don't have so much importance at their work.
At the side of goverment jobs, its not easy to get and slow career growth, no acivements, no financial freedom.
Why ppl going going to US even in recession?
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.
sajeetharan wrote:
[quote]Why ppl going going to US even in recession?
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.[/quote]
sajeetharan I am agree with your point but tell me one thing, where the government jobs , which are available for 100000 peoples. Nobody can get jobs on govt without curruption at this time. If there are 100 posts the, half are reserved for different casts and then in those 100 80% will get fill from money and approach. Now what will our youth do ? America and Us are the two countries which got most effect of recession but india don't get so much effect and in india there are a lot of jobs in IT compnies. IT came back with a huge jobs. And career growth is in IT field not in govt jobs.
[quote]Why ppl going going to US even in recession?
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.[/quote]
sajeetharan I am agree with your point but tell me one thing, where the government jobs , which are available for 100000 peoples. Nobody can get jobs on govt without curruption at this time. If there are 100 posts the, half are reserved for different casts and then in those 100 80% will get fill from money and approach. Now what will our youth do ? America and Us are the two countries which got most effect of recession but india don't get so much effect and in india there are a lot of jobs in IT compnies. IT came back with a huge jobs. And career growth is in IT field not in govt jobs.
sajeetharan wrote:
[quote]Why ppl going going to US even in recession?
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.[/quote]
I accept that government jobs are secure. What about career growth?
I think career growth is the most important thing of a job.
[quote]Why ppl going going to US even in recession?
do u think u can get a Phd when ever u want to do it?
guys for me.its goin to be a tough n am already facing a grunt of it. if u guys have a job i would say dont risk it right now. if u have job it would actually help u in the future.
u may call pessimistic but that the fact. jobs r coming down, no of ppl thrown out now is more than they take(if at all they take!) ya..sure things will improve. but in wat direction, no body knws. Obama, the presidential candidate said he will try to make more jobs for american..means the foreigners here r goin to get a grunt. that too immediately after recession. its goin to be a tough time in "the promising land"!
Goverment jobs are more secure than private ones and there is a guarantee that you will get pension. there are lot of goverment sectors providing opportunities for young guns today. i would suggest it is better to choose goverment job than a private job eventhough salary is less.[/quote]
I accept that government jobs are secure. What about career growth?
I think career growth is the most important thing of a job.
Recession is over now, IT industry is emerging again, there is a very good hike in revenue of big industries especially in INFOSYS.
Companies have started many new projects & they are coming for placements in many colleges.
Moreover, one cannot rise with government job but he can attain a good reputation in private sector.
Government jobs are good enough for earning money with less efforts.
While private jobs are good enough to earn respect.
Companies have started many new projects & they are coming for placements in many colleges.
Moreover, one cannot rise with government job but he can attain a good reputation in private sector.
Government jobs are good enough for earning money with less efforts.
While private jobs are good enough to earn respect.
aastha wrote:
[quote]Recession is over now, IT industry is emerging again, there is a very good hike in revenue of big industries especially in INFOSYS.
Companies have started many new projects & they are coming for placements in many colleges.
Moreover, one cannot rise with government job but he can attain a good reputation in private sector.
Government jobs are good enough for earning money with less efforts.
While private jobs are good enough to earn respect.[/quote]
I am completely agree with aashtha words. IT industry back with its boom. There is no so much financial freedom and Respect in Govt. Job.
[quote]Recession is over now, IT industry is emerging again, there is a very good hike in revenue of big industries especially in INFOSYS.
Companies have started many new projects & they are coming for placements in many colleges.
Moreover, one cannot rise with government job but he can attain a good reputation in private sector.
Government jobs are good enough for earning money with less efforts.
While private jobs are good enough to earn respect.[/quote]
I am completely agree with aashtha words. IT industry back with its boom. There is no so much financial freedom and Respect in Govt. Job.
Getting a government job is not easy for general category people.
for SC,ST,OBC government gave reservations.Its very easy for SC,ST,OBC people not for all.For these people 10th standard is enough for securing a good government job,not for all.
So better trying a private job in software side is ever green.There is no reservation system they will give preference to talent.Now for government job the competition is higher then a private job because of this reservations.
Recession is there but i am expecting within few months everything will be fine.So many of my friends working in different software industries are saying they are getting good big projects for their companies.If work is there every time they need resource for that.
for SC,ST,OBC government gave reservations.Its very easy for SC,ST,OBC people not for all.For these people 10th standard is enough for securing a good government job,not for all.
So better trying a private job in software side is ever green.There is no reservation system they will give preference to talent.Now for government job the competition is higher then a private job because of this reservations.
Recession is there but i am expecting within few months everything will be fine.So many of my friends working in different software industries are saying they are getting good big projects for their companies.If work is there every time they need resource for that.
Radhika wrote:
[quote]Getting a government job is not easy for general category people.
for SC,ST,OBC government gave reservations.Its very easy for SC,ST,OBC people not for all.For these people 10th standard is enough for securing a good government job,not for all.
So better trying a private job in software side is ever green.There is no reservation system they will give preference to talent.Now for government job the competition is higher then a private job because of this reservations.
Recession is there but i am expecting within few months everything will be fine.So many of my friends working in different software industries are saying they are getting good big projects for their companies.If work is there every time they need resource for that.[/quote].
Yes am agree with you radhika. Government job is only easy for SC BC. Not for General category. And those who don't have mney to give to thier seniors for the government job in that field, then its impossible for us to get it.
IT recession covering its bad time.. now youth back to private job.
[quote]Getting a government job is not easy for general category people.
for SC,ST,OBC government gave reservations.Its very easy for SC,ST,OBC people not for all.For these people 10th standard is enough for securing a good government job,not for all.
So better trying a private job in software side is ever green.There is no reservation system they will give preference to talent.Now for government job the competition is higher then a private job because of this reservations.
Recession is there but i am expecting within few months everything will be fine.So many of my friends working in different software industries are saying they are getting good big projects for their companies.If work is there every time they need resource for that.[/quote].
Yes am agree with you radhika. Government job is only easy for SC BC. Not for General category. And those who don't have mney to give to thier seniors for the government job in that field, then its impossible for us to get it.
IT recession covering its bad time.. now youth back to private job.
I think recession period effect private and government job both. If I can not get job in Private company then its more difficult to get job in Government.
But If anyone get Government job then its good because at least future earning and job become secure.
After sixth pay commission value of Govt. jobs have increased and private companies does not pay like Government so this time Government job is best either its recession or no.
But If anyone get Government job then its good because at least future earning and job become secure.
After sixth pay commission value of Govt. jobs have increased and private companies does not pay like Government so this time Government job is best either its recession or no.
You are completely right Santosh. That government jobs are best for earning money and for securing your future but you cannot deny the fact that you cannot earn name and fame through a government job, they are not good for earning respect.
Although through pvt jobs, one can rise and earn money as well as status.
Although through pvt jobs, one can rise and earn money as well as status.
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
[quote]I think recession period effect private and government job both. If I can not get job in Private company then its more difficult to get job in Government.
But If anyone get Government job then its good because at least future earning and job become secure.
After sixth pay commission value of Govt. jobs have increased and private companies does not pay like Government so this time Government job is best either its recession or no.[/quote]
Santosh Sir, i am agree with you in these your opinions. If we not get Private job, then its not easy to get Govt jobs also. Government jobs vacancies get out only after a long time. not just after every month.
Aastha Wrote:
[quote]That government jobs are best for earning money and for securing your future but you cannot deny the fact that you cannot earn name and fame through a government job, they are not good for earning respect.
Although through pvt jobs, one can rise and earn money as well as status.
[/quote]
It is right aastha we can not get fame and name from goverment job. And its a very slow increment in Government job. I we wanna name and fame then talent's place is Private sector. Where Success go on..
[quote]I think recession period effect private and government job both. If I can not get job in Private company then its more difficult to get job in Government.
But If anyone get Government job then its good because at least future earning and job become secure.
After sixth pay commission value of Govt. jobs have increased and private companies does not pay like Government so this time Government job is best either its recession or no.[/quote]
Santosh Sir, i am agree with you in these your opinions. If we not get Private job, then its not easy to get Govt jobs also. Government jobs vacancies get out only after a long time. not just after every month.
Aastha Wrote:
[quote]That government jobs are best for earning money and for securing your future but you cannot deny the fact that you cannot earn name and fame through a government job, they are not good for earning respect.
Although through pvt jobs, one can rise and earn money as well as status.
[/quote]
It is right aastha we can not get fame and name from goverment job. And its a very slow increment in Government job. I we wanna name and fame then talent's place is Private sector. Where Success go on..
But in government jobs the salary hike is very low.Suppose take software field after 6months they will increase their pay to 50% in some companies.every year we expect increase in salary that to in high range .If we played a major role in any product they will give salary hike.But in government job the increment will be in 1or2 thousands.What ever we do same salary.
Due to recession the software companies are not increasing the pay.In private sector or IT within few years we can earn lots of money and also with in few years a normal software engineer will become project lead then manager also.maximum it will take 4 or 5years.But in government sector its not easy to become a manager in 4 or 5 years i think it will take more then 20years.
And also now a days every one have feeling government job means 9to5 job.sitting in the chair and sleeping.No one will recognize and give respect.And also government job means corruption .
Some one who wants name,fame,salary then private job is best.
If a person wants only job security then government job.
We can get job satisfaction in private job,its impossible in government job.In private job if we work 10or15years that equivalent to 40yrs of government job.
Due to recession the software companies are not increasing the pay.In private sector or IT within few years we can earn lots of money and also with in few years a normal software engineer will become project lead then manager also.maximum it will take 4 or 5years.But in government sector its not easy to become a manager in 4 or 5 years i think it will take more then 20years.
And also now a days every one have feeling government job means 9to5 job.sitting in the chair and sleeping.No one will recognize and give respect.And also government job means corruption .
Some one who wants name,fame,salary then private job is best.
If a person wants only job security then government job.
We can get job satisfaction in private job,its impossible in government job.In private job if we work 10or15years that equivalent to 40yrs of government job.
Due to recession so many are loosing their jobs,but its not due to recession alone.
Here 2 ways are there
1)If the company is a small company they are informing the employees before few months that we are not able to pay for you better choose a new company .If they are talented they will get new job in another company.no problem for these employees.
2)If it is a big company they are observing the employee performance if he is not good they are terminating them.
This is the reason so many software companies are recruiting new ones.And also for a senior they have to pay more then a fresher.
Because of this recession they are not in a position to pay large salary for senior.If fresher is capable of doing the same work.
If we worked in a private job, getting a government job is not a big task.
But if we worked in a government job for few years its impossible to get a private job in IT field,and also no one will show interest to work 9or10hrs.
Here 2 ways are there
1)If the company is a small company they are informing the employees before few months that we are not able to pay for you better choose a new company .If they are talented they will get new job in another company.no problem for these employees.
2)If it is a big company they are observing the employee performance if he is not good they are terminating them.
This is the reason so many software companies are recruiting new ones.And also for a senior they have to pay more then a fresher.
Because of this recession they are not in a position to pay large salary for senior.If fresher is capable of doing the same work.
If we worked in a private job, getting a government job is not a big task.
But if we worked in a government job for few years its impossible to get a private job in IT field,and also no one will show interest to work 9or10hrs.
Radhika wrote:
[quote]Due to recession so many are loosing their jobs,but its not due to recession alone.
Here 2 ways are there
1)If the company is a small company they are informing the employees before few months that we are not able to pay for you better choose a new company .If they are talented they will get new job in another company.no problem for these employees.
2)If it is a big company they are observing the employee performance if he is not good they are terminating them.
This is the reason so many software companies are recruiting new ones.And also for a senior they have to pay more then a fresher.
Because of this recession they are not in a position to pay large salary for senior.If fresher is capable of doing the same work.
If we worked in a private job, getting a government job is not a big task.
But if we worked in a government job for few years its impossible to get a private job in IT field,and also no one will show interest to work 9or10hrs.[/quote]
you are absolutely right mam
blaming recession alone for the job loss in mnc's is unfair and not true too
The IT companies are still recruiting people.
If talent is there then the door is wide open
[quote]Due to recession so many are loosing their jobs,but its not due to recession alone.
Here 2 ways are there
1)If the company is a small company they are informing the employees before few months that we are not able to pay for you better choose a new company .If they are talented they will get new job in another company.no problem for these employees.
2)If it is a big company they are observing the employee performance if he is not good they are terminating them.
This is the reason so many software companies are recruiting new ones.And also for a senior they have to pay more then a fresher.
Because of this recession they are not in a position to pay large salary for senior.If fresher is capable of doing the same work.
If we worked in a private job, getting a government job is not a big task.
But if we worked in a government job for few years its impossible to get a private job in IT field,and also no one will show interest to work 9or10hrs.[/quote]
you are absolutely right mam
blaming recession alone for the job loss in mnc's is unfair and not true too
The IT companies are still recruiting people.
If talent is there then the door is wide open
Radhika is absolutely right, that blaming recession is no solution.
Recession was for a small period, now that its over, MNC's are booming again with faster speed.
And I strongly believe that Govt. jobs are less challenging than the private jobs.
Less creativity and sincerity towards work has been seen in government jobs in India that makes the job very boring and mundane.
Recession was for a small period, now that its over, MNC's are booming again with faster speed.
And I strongly believe that Govt. jobs are less challenging than the private jobs.
Less creativity and sincerity towards work has been seen in government jobs in India that makes the job very boring and mundane.
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