In a hard hitting speech Arun Jaitley, our Finance minister and a renowned lawyer has touched upon the subject of Nationalism and is if the opinion that being patriotic does not curb ones freedom of expression as it is being made to look by some vested interests .
Usha Madam, you are one hundred percent correct. I think our great Finance Minister represents a party that is basically communal. Right from the issue of eating beef to talking wrong about everything that Islam represents, without even bothering about consequences, is absolute trash.
Mr Jaitley is no different. It is high time that the Congress party and others take to the streets and mobilize public opinion. The Congress may be corrupt, but at least talking about minorities and disturbing the social fabric, in any way, will not happen.
Freedom of speech and Nationalism can indeed co-exist. If we do not allow people to express themselves and put them in jail, we also need to jail hundreds from the RSS and the BJP, who are so brazenly communal.
Nationalism is not that RSS preaches. Indian nationalism cannot be 'Hindu Rashtra'. Let Jaitley disown the concept of Hindu Rashtra to make any further claim. Indian nation is composite. Indian nationalism means unity in diversity, which is in danger from the fascist forces that Jaitley represents.
Shampa Sadhya wrote:Freedom of speech should be evaluated impartially. People from each and every political party is crossing the limit in the name of freedom of speech and in that case everyone should be taken to task irrespective of any political party.
The Congress party is the most communal and decisive party in the country and its allies too are the same snd from the above comments we can see how people take out shots with little thought calling everyone fascist blah blah..
Arun Jaitley has given a fitting reply to these so called secular elemrnts who have already fragmented the nation with caste and minority issues, and now having lost power, will go to any extent to damage the rrpuatation of the ruling party
usha manohar wrote:Shampa Sadhya wrote:Freedom of speech should be evaluated impartially. People from each and every political party is crossing the limit in the name of freedom of speech and in that case everyone should be taken to task irrespective of any political party.
The Congress party is the most communal and decisive party in the country and its allies too are the same snd from the above comments we can see how people take out shots with little thought calling everyone fascist blah blah..
Arun Jaitley has given a fitting reply to these so called secular elemrnts who have already fragmented the nation with caste and minority issues, and now having lost power, will go to any extent to damage the rrpuatation of the ruling party
Keep aside the Congress party because at present they are of no use. What bothers me is that the way fringe elements are acting. The present government needs to curb these fringe elements very strongly or else their good work will be ruined by these disturbing elements.
Arun Jaitley said in no uncertain terms that the Constitution gives full freedom of expression and nationalism do necessarily co exist and the constitution gives full freedom for expressing dissent, disagreement but not the country's destruction. He targeted Congress over its political strength and added that the opposition party lowered its stature and content to be a tail ender of any alliance. A befitting reply to these pseudo Secularists.
ABSIVAKUMAR wrote:Usha Madam, you are one hundred percent correct. I think our great Finance Minister represents a party that is basically communal. Right from the issue of eating beef to talking wrong about everything that Islam represents, without even bothering about consequences, is absolute trash.
Mr Jaitley is no different. It is high time that the Congress party and others take to the streets and mobilize public opinion. The Congress may be corrupt, but at least talking about minorities and disturbing the social fabric, in any way, will not happen.
Freedom of speech and Nationalism can indeed co-exist. If we do not allow people to express themselves and put them in jail, we also need to jail hundreds from the RSS and the BJP, who are so brazenly communal.
Calling only BJP as communal is not fair and wrong to some extent. Calling congress to come down on streets and mobilize public opinion also will serve no purpose, after all what good have they ever done, apart from giving freebies, subsidies and various other benefits to poor people only to turn them into beggars? And when you talk about spreading discord into minorities and damaging the social fabric, it is the congress that will win the contest any time, hands down and not BJP.
Left to itself BJP would not be so communal as it looks to be. It is the RSS which forces its hands as their agenda is majoritarism. Vajpayee had the stature to withstand the pressure of RSS during his tenure and that is why he is respected by people across cross sections of our society. Today's BJP leaders can not withstand RSS pressure and thus party appears to be communal. One should not be surprised if it loses a lot of goodwill because of RSS as ot did in Bihar.
The problem with people is that their mind gets conditioned , like we have a member here perpetually on a fascist, saffron brigade agenda, some may even believe it..
Similarly RSS which is an outfit that has its own disciplines and nationalistic agenda us definitely not communal since I know many RSS members who are anything but that. With a sore Congress now it has becone the done thing to blame anything and everything on RSS and Saffron brigade (God knows who these are except those who speak of these imaginary outfits ) . This is the brain child of one party and when they keep repeating it again and again , it becomes the truth for at least some people
rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Misuse of rights are very common. Our constitution give us some right but we also have some duties. Serve to nation is also our duty. Now it time to restrict these rights.
Rights and responsibilities are two faces of the same coin. People should know this fact and act.
peoples forgot. What happen in Haryana, who gave them right to burn property and hold life.
anil wrote:rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Misuse of rights are very common. Our constitution give us some right but we also have some duties. Serve to nation is also our duty. Now it time to restrict these rights.
Rights and responsibilities are two faces of the same coin. People should know this fact and act.
peoples forgot. What happen in Haryana, who gave them right to burn property and hold life.
Those burning property, looting and killing were clearly anti national even if they shouted Bharat mata ki Jai.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:anil wrote:rambabu wrote:anil wrote:Misuse of rights are very common. Our constitution give us some right but we also have some duties. Serve to nation is also our duty. Now it time to restrict these rights.
Rights and responsibilities are two faces of the same coin. People should know this fact and act.
peoples forgot. What happen in Haryana, who gave them right to burn property and hold life.
Those burning property, looting and killing were clearly anti national even if they shouted Bharat mata ki Jai.
Shouting . Bharat Maati Ki Jai is not a litmus test for Patriotism.
No doubt, BJP has no business to assume that others are anti nationalist by their own narrow angle. I also don't feel that BJP brand nationalism is real nationalism. They from time to time indulge in minority bashing and asking those who differ to go to Pakistan. It is every one's knowledge that the Sangh Pariwar has a unique and perverted understanding of nationalism that does not fit in the concept of university in diversity. By their communal and fascist approach, the saffron party acts against the concept of diversity of religion, thoughts and culture. Thus in true sense, BJP goes against the true Indian nationalism.
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