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I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

Let me answer your long post in a single line, I have no objection if the need of the site is Victorian English. I am quite capable of writing in Queens English and do so when the situation demands so. Thanks for your nice suggestions. Cheers.

I am glad to hear that you have no objection, but then I don't understand what the fuss was all about. You even mentioned quitting the forum. Also, if someone points out your mistake it is upto you to correct it, no one will spoon feed you. And believe me, correcting your mistakes makes you never do that mistake again and also makes you a wise person.


P.S. I am known here to write long forum posts. I hardly participate but when I do I make sure I post quality and put my point across well.

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

As a moderator, I am not very much concerned about minute errors on forum posts, but the meaning of what the poster intends to convey is more important. Another thing that I wish to point out is that, there are some with not very good knowledge of English, but they are trying hard to improve themselves and their posts show their efforts.

But there are some who do not really take efforts to improve themselves and will keep making gross errors, and if you point out their mistakes, they will not take it very kindly. It is only a matter of trying to help someone improve and if they don't like it, tough luck! After all, like you rightly said, there are more non-members logged in here than the members, so ones who do improve will profit more than ones who don't want to!

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

Let me answer your long post in a single line, I have no objection if the need of the site is Victorian English. I am quite capable of writing in Queens English and do so when the situation demands so. Thanks for your nice suggestions. Cheers.

I am glad to hear that you have no objection, but then I don't understand what the fuss was all about. You even mentioned quitting the forum. Also, if someone points out your mistake it is upto you to correct it, no one will spoon feed you. And believe me, correcting your mistakes makes you never do that mistake again and also makes you a wise person.


P.S. I am known here to write long forum posts. I hardly participate but when I do I make sure I post quality and put my point across well.

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

As a moderator, I am not very much concerned about minute errors on forum posts, but the meaning of what the poster intends to convey is more important. Another thing that I wish to point out is that, there are some with not very good knowledge of English, but they are trying hard to improve themselves and their posts show their efforts.

But there are some who do not really take efforts to improve themselves and will keep making gross errors, and if you point out their mistakes, they will not take it very kindly. It is only a matter of trying to help someone improve and if they don't like it, tough luck! After all, like you rightly said, there are more non-members logged in here than the members, so ones who do improve will profit more than ones who don't want to!

Kalyani
Am working here in forum to improve my English also. So, I won't feel bad if you point my errors. Instead I will be happy. :) :) :) :)
So, do point my grammatical errors .......particularly if am repeating the same mistake again and again. If some one guide me, I can correct it easily. Otherwise I will always think, it's right :P

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

Let me answer your long post in a single line, I have no objection if the need of the site is Victorian English. I am quite capable of writing in Queens English and do so when the situation demands so. Thanks for your nice suggestions. Cheers.

I am glad to hear that you have no objection, but then I don't understand what the fuss was all about. You even mentioned quitting the forum. Also, if someone points out your mistake it is upto you to correct it, no one will spoon feed you. And believe me, correcting your mistakes makes you never do that mistake again and also makes you a wise person.


P.S. I am known here to write long forum posts. I hardly participate but when I do I make sure I post quality and put my point across well.

Arun...
It was just a funny talk. You became too serious with it :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :laugh: :laugh: :angry: :angry: :P :P :P

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

Let me answer your long post in a single line, I have no objection if the need of the site is Victorian English. I am quite capable of writing in Queens English and do so when the situation demands so. Thanks for your nice suggestions. Cheers.

I am glad to hear that you have no objection, but then I don't understand what the fuss was all about. You even mentioned quitting the forum. Also, if someone points out your mistake it is upto you to correct it, no one will spoon feed you. And believe me, correcting your mistakes makes you never do that mistake again and also makes you a wise person.


P.S. I am known here to write long forum posts. I hardly participate but when I do I make sure I post quality and put my point across well.

I have said it in other reference to quit forums as we haven't had much of a conversation in between two of us here so you are not aware. I have nothing to object to your long posts as that is your personal choice. Thanks again for your suggestions regarding me being spoon feed or a nappie around my neck. Cheers buddy.

I must admire the suggestion of our learned members but may I add that if grammar and structure would become the sole criteria of postings then thee would be hardly 10 members who would remain here participating in forums. Almost half of them would be moderators and rest visiting at their convenience. I agree we need a good sentence but if the emphasis is on queens English I am afraid moderators either would be spending whole time editing those posts or find no posts to edit.
I have been participating in different international forums for long and members objecting to language or grammar to members from non English speaking countries are asked to refrain from being harsh.
Thanks.

Suni, I think you are taking this much too seriously. See we all learn something new everyday and originally the point of writing in fluent English, applied more to articles than forum posts. Though it would be in betterment of the site, if members take some time out to post in understandable English. The reason is at any point of time, there are more guests on this site, then there are members. And writing in bad english does not makes you look credible.


But yea, one thing I would like to say is that don't get caught in minute details. As long as you are putting across your point in a clear and logical manner, don't care much. Personally, I hardly pay attention to punctuation when it comes to forum post, this is not a money making activity, so I don't bother wasting my time but I make sure that my point is well laid out and understood.


And suni, this is a forum, filled with intelligent and helpful members, treat it as your playground to learn something new. No moderator is going to ban you for posting in bad grammar and English unless you are doing it deliberately. And your willingness to learn will defintely improve you and you would feel confident enough to post in any international forum you would like to participate.

Also, here no one is judgmental how you post, but yea, your willingness to learn is what will separate you from the rest of the crowd who have given up on their self and think that they can never learn it.

And take it from me, there is nothing in life that you can't learn and master.

Let me answer your long post in a single line, I have no objection if the need of the site is Victorian English. I am quite capable of writing in Queens English and do so when the situation demands so. Thanks for your nice suggestions. Cheers.

I am glad to hear that you have no objection, but then I don't understand what the fuss was all about. You even mentioned quitting the forum. Also, if someone points out your mistake it is upto you to correct it, no one will spoon feed you. And believe me, correcting your mistakes makes you never do that mistake again and also makes you a wise person.


P.S. I am known here to write long forum posts. I hardly participate but when I do I make sure I post quality and put my point across well.

Arun...
It was just a funny talk. You became too serious with it :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :laugh: :laugh: :angry: :angry: :P :P :P

Was it? It did come across like one, to me. May be next time you all can include hints like "hehe, haha or some funny smileys"

If someone is not confident in grammar, you can post that reply in Ms-word and correct mistakes. Later, post it in forum. By this way, gradually you can learn also. .....especially simple mistakes

I would not prefer wasting time on this atleast for forum posts. For forum posts, I think you should learn as you go.


But yea, for articles, run it through word to avoid spelling and common usage mistakes.

If someone is not confident in grammar, you can post that reply in Ms-word and correct mistakes. Later, post it in forum. By this way, gradually you can learn also. .....especially simple mistakes

I would not prefer wasting time on this atleast for forum posts. For forum posts, I think you should learn as you go.


But yea, for articles, run it through word to avoid spelling and common usage mistakes.

While writing posts in forum, the wrong spelling appears in red. So, one can correct. However, fluency in writing is more important. One may not bother much about some mistakes that may inadvertently creep in but there should not be grammatical mistakes that are very glaring and blunder.

@Arun

I gave a patient read to your posts and unhesitatingly agree with the very basic point you have raised. If Boddunan's forum can be turned into a learning field for all kinds of members who are strong or not so strong in English,then forum would serve a great purpose. I am one of those very few believers that fluency or whatever you choose to call it would ever suffer if anyone takes minute care of very basic requirements of English grammar. Either I know or don't know it - there could not be any position in between! I hope I have got my points across clear enough! I also sincerely subscribe to the thought that learning never stops but willingness to learn may! I am very open on this. If someone points out my mistakes, I truly remain grateful to him or her!

@Arun

I gave a patient read to your posts and unhesitatingly agree with the very basic point you have raised. If Boddunan's forum can be turned into a learning field for all kinds of members who are strong or not so strong in English,then forum would serve a great purpose. I am one of those very few believers that fluency or whatever you choose to call it would ever suffer if anyone takes minute care of very basic requirements of English grammar. Either I know or don't know it - there could not be any position in between! I hope I have got my points across clear enough! I also sincerely subscribe to the thought that learning never stops but willingness to learn may! I am very open on this. If someone points out my mistakes, I truly remain grateful to him or her!

Sir, A few members including you may write correct English fluently but there are some members who are not gifted with this talent. They need to develop practice of writing correct and good English. Practice is the best way to learn. Initially, there can be mistakes but they will no doubt improve in course of time. We need be a bit tolerant to grammatical mistakes during their learning stage. This is like some one getting learning licence for a vehicle. If they do not write, even if wrong, they will not be able to learn correct English. So, I think that contents in a post are more important than correctness of English. If they can write good contents now even if in bad English, this is welcome. By reading others post and through experience, they will definitely learn to write good English. Practice makes one perfect. I also feel that most of our members and viewers including those abroad are English knowing Indians. They also understand the problem.

I have no hesitation to say that I am learning day to to day and if somebody will help to find out the mistake, I will be thankful.

Arun put forward a suggestion of a super moderator. As admin can't look into every serious issue here, a super moderator is also a nice suggestion, if it's implemented nicely. :) :) . Now 5 moderators are selected. Am sure Gulshanji will be one among them. :) :) :) Already he is a moderator here, who is spending a lot of hours here daily. That's why am putting forward this suggestion. As Gulshanji is the most senior member here, he can do that job nicely. Every member, including administrator is respecting him. Isn't it? His contribution in forum ...no doubt...very valuable. He has an excellent command over the language also. So, if any dispute in forum occur, any member or moderator can approach him for his opinion and it's sure, he can do it the best. Also, everyone here will respect his decisions.

It's just my personal opinion only. :) :) :)

As I said earlier, it is not yet decided how many people will be selected and such hierarchy will only be created if it is certainly required. Yes, I do respect Gulshanji personally, and I believe most people are already approaching him when in need.

I have no hesitation to say that I am learning day to to day and if somebody will help to find out the mistake, I will be thankful.

I have satisfaction that you have improved much since you joined. I hope others will also learn from your example.