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chinmoymukherjee said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
@Gulshanji
You have given good account of yoursel to defend OROP but sadly overlooked the economic element of the argument. Modi committed the biggest blunder by making it one of his electoral planks.He has this dangerous susceptibility to cheap populism. One can readily recall his nonsensical electoral promises on black money.The issue should have been dealt with greater clarity of understanding,,wisdom and firmness.We can not afford to keep on whipping common people days on end to please our organized sector.I remember what once Jaitley remarked in the context of the role of Pay Commissions in creating fiscal instability in the country.He went as far as comparing it to the threat posed by Pakistan.What is,indeed,very very disturbing and carry dark portents for the democratic edifice in India,is that some misguided elements of ex-servicemen have launched an extremely dangerous political campaign.Very sorry state of our affairs,thanks once again to our political animals!!!
10 years ago
rambabu created new topic Share humour with yor Toddlers.
Humour per se that may have facilitated learning, but (that) temperamentally 'smiley' babies were more likely to engage with the environment and therefore to attempt and succeed at the task.
http://www.ndtv.com/health/share-humour-with-your-toddlers-to-make-them-smart-study-1215340
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Writing in other languages.
I can write in Telugu and English . As an Advertising man, specializing in Copy writing and Designing, I have to write in both the languages. And I'm comfortable in both.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayer is a form of self talk for me. I remind my self, " Hey, are you going in the right path, ? if not drift back." It's a kind of review for me. Nothing more and nothing less.
10 years ago
Sofs created new topic Writing in other languages.
Would you be comfortable writing in any other language? Do you think that you would be able to express yourself better in another language?
Personally I am more comfortable writing in English. I love the language and use every opportunity to better my writing skills. i
What are your thoughts on the subject?
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
To those who have faith prayer is communion /conversation with God. For those with no faith in God it maybe affirmation to self, attracting good energy etc. To me prayer is an expression of love for my creator. I talk to him and he communes with me.
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
There is no need to bring Sonia Gandhi into this since there are quite a few question marks about her still? and to compare her to our national issue is not right since she has nothing to do with Indian languages ...
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic This is Exclusively for Boddunan Members.
Sofs wrote:
I don't use facebook, that would mean I need to stay out of this.
In fact, you can take this opportunity to satrt using facebook!
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
vijay wrote:
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
The old pension scheme is mainly for armed forces. A new pension scheme has been introducedfor civilians from 2004. This is contributution based and managed/ controlled by PRDA. The existing civilians pensioners getting pension from annual budget will gradually vanish and new will just get annuity (called pension) on theur own investments. So govt's liability will be only for army/ para military forces. Overall, the pensionary burden on civul pensioners will most probably be negligible around 2050.
Now on one rank one pension. The army persons are still not satisfiied. They have ended hunger strike but will continue agitation. Govt. have agreed to review the army pension every five years and in intervening period the anomaly would continue.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to Sofs for his/her reply to the topic How long have you been writing online?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
I have been writing since 7 years or so. I first started writing for boddunan, later wrote for some other sites but I do not find much time to write articles regularly now. But I truly love it here and hence I am with boddunan.
So you have been here for a long time. I have never heard of this site before. Good to hear such high praise about a site from a veteran. Thank you!
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic This is Exclusively for Boddunan Members.
I don't use facebook, that would mean I need to stay out of this.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
Sir, the very purpose of any language is 'Communication." there is no need to think or declare a National language as long as any language measures up to the purpose of a language.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic How long have you been writing online?.
If I remember right I saw your wonderful articles on hubpages but that was a long time ago. Now I have stopped writing for that site. The last I read your article was about your mom I guess. By the way, I am writing online for last 12 years.
10 years ago
rambabu said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic Stories from Mahabharata that you still don’t know!.
These are very interesting. Indeed Mahabharata is a very interesting and rich epic.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Stories from Mahabharata that you still don’t know!.
Mahabharata stories are enchanting for both elders and children. They have the ability to grip the readers
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
@Gulshanji
You have given good account of yoursel to defend OROP but sadly overlooked the economic element of the argument. Modi committed the biggest blunder by making it one of his electoral planks.He has this dangerous susceptibility to cheap populism. One can readily recall his nonsensical electoral promises on black money.The issue should have been dealt with greater clarity of understanding,,wisdom and firmness.We can not afford to keep on whipping common people days on end to please our organized sector.I remember what once Jaitley remarked in the context of the role of Pay Commissions in creating fiscal instability in the country.He went as far as comparing it to the threat posed by Pakistan.What is,indeed,very very disturbing and carry dark portents for the democratic edifice in India,is that some misguided elements of ex-servicemen have launched an extremely dangerous political campaign.Very sorry state of our affairs,thanks once again to our political animals!!!
10 years ago
rambabu created new topic Share humour with yor Toddlers.
Humour per se that may have facilitated learning, but (that) temperamentally 'smiley' babies were more likely to engage with the environment and therefore to attempt and succeed at the task.
http://www.ndtv.com/health/share-humour-with-your-toddlers-to-make-them-smart-study-1215340
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Writing in other languages.
I can write in Telugu and English . As an Advertising man, specializing in Copy writing and Designing, I have to write in both the languages. And I'm comfortable in both.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
Prayer is a form of self talk for me. I remind my self, " Hey, are you going in the right path, ? if not drift back." It's a kind of review for me. Nothing more and nothing less.
10 years ago
Sofs created new topic Writing in other languages.
Would you be comfortable writing in any other language? Do you think that you would be able to express yourself better in another language?
Personally I am more comfortable writing in English. I love the language and use every opportunity to better my writing skills. i
What are your thoughts on the subject?
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic What is the meaning of prayer?.
To those who have faith prayer is communion /conversation with God. For those with no faith in God it maybe affirmation to self, attracting good energy etc. To me prayer is an expression of love for my creator. I talk to him and he communes with me.
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
There is no need to bring Sonia Gandhi into this since there are quite a few question marks about her still? and to compare her to our national issue is not right since she has nothing to do with Indian languages ...
10 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic This is Exclusively for Boddunan Members.
Sofs wrote:
I don't use facebook, that would mean I need to stay out of this.
In fact, you can take this opportunity to satrt using facebook!
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
vijay wrote:
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
The old pension scheme is mainly for armed forces. A new pension scheme has been introducedfor civilians from 2004. This is contributution based and managed/ controlled by PRDA. The existing civilians pensioners getting pension from annual budget will gradually vanish and new will just get annuity (called pension) on theur own investments. So govt's liability will be only for army/ para military forces. Overall, the pensionary burden on civul pensioners will most probably be negligible around 2050.
Now on one rank one pension. The army persons are still not satisfiied. They have ended hunger strike but will continue agitation. Govt. have agreed to review the army pension every five years and in intervening period the anomaly would continue.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to Sofs for his/her reply to the topic How long have you been writing online?.
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
I have been writing since 7 years or so. I first started writing for boddunan, later wrote for some other sites but I do not find much time to write articles regularly now. But I truly love it here and hence I am with boddunan.
So you have been here for a long time. I have never heard of this site before. Good to hear such high praise about a site from a veteran. Thank you!
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic This is Exclusively for Boddunan Members.
I don't use facebook, that would mean I need to stay out of this.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
Sir, the very purpose of any language is 'Communication." there is no need to think or declare a National language as long as any language measures up to the purpose of a language.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic OROP Announced by the Government after 42 years of deadlock !.
chinmoymukherjee has raised a very valid point. It is true that the armed forces are taken good care by all governments incl Indira Gandhi's government. They get subsidised rations and also do not have to pay excised duty on goods they purchase from defence canteens. Also they get life long liqour from canteens at cheap rates. A good number of them get jobs after retirement in view of them being a disciplined and well trained force. It is generally the jawans who face adjustment problems upon retiring at an early age. I am not at all against army personnel getting all these emoluments. They should be taken care off. But in the run uo to OROP a picture is being presented of grave injustice to them which is not true. They get pensions which increase every year due to DA revisions. Most of them by the time they reach their seventies get pensions which are higher than their last pay at time of retirement. How many retirees from the private sector who generally buy annuities have this facility. If other service persons demand OROP what is wrong. We the tax payers will go on bearing.
10 years ago
suni51 replied to the topic How long have you been writing online?.
If I remember right I saw your wonderful articles on hubpages but that was a long time ago. Now I have stopped writing for that site. The last I read your article was about your mom I guess. By the way, I am writing online for last 12 years.
10 years ago
rambabu said thank you to Gulshan Kumar Ajmani for his/her reply to the topic Stories from Mahabharata that you still don’t know!.
These are very interesting. Indeed Mahabharata is a very interesting and rich epic.
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Stories from Mahabharata that you still don’t know!.
Mahabharata stories are enchanting for both elders and children. They have the ability to grip the readers
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Will it be good to have a National Language in India?.
rambabu wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Hindi and Englisg bothcater to the need of link language. Hindi is spokenor understood in most parts of the country. English is also ised in entire country. May be invery remote area, English and Hindi both are not known. But mostly people don't go to such places. To elucidate, a North Indian may go to Shillong (Meghalaya) and can communicate in Hindi or English. Possibly, there would be many in adjoining villages knowing only local language. But an outsider is not likely to go there.
True sir. I stayed in many places and successfully able to interact with the people using either Hindi or English or both at times.
Then why we needto declare any language as national. Despite foreign origin, English is our national language just as Sonia Gandhi is our national leader. Although not declared national, anything used everywhere in nation is national.
10 years ago