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Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Jincy Aby wrote:
If people in a family are broad minded, they can accept a girl inside their family without dowry. How many people are ready to marry a girl without dowry? These kind of possibilities are only in love marriage especially when the couples do register marriage without getting permission and support from family members.
If the husband and wife are financially well settled, they do not try for getting alimony during the time of divorce. They give least importance to such matters.
There are many families where arranged marriage gets fixed without dowry. It's not a matter of having any broad mind rather it must be the trend for marriage fixation and especially the boy and the girl must have guts to say not to marriage with dowry. About alimony I would say that see the celebrity circle. The wives are accepting alimony even after being so rich.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
Yes it is still not 100% ...My sister who is a gynecologist goes to villages with their mobile unit and there have been times when they have been threatened and abused by muslim men because their wives were advised on family planning by the doctors..They had to lodge a police complaint once because these men would not let them work in the village which comprises of all religious groups ..
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Babu saroj wrote:
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
I guess it is better you get the exact definition of alimony and understand it before making that comment
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
Please address the issue of caste war within Hinduism and not bring Afzal etc into it to digress.
Yes, Afzal Guru and the likes of such heroes should garlanded and given a Red carpet welcome.
I think Vijay was referring to dalits' right to worship Mahishasur just as others could worship Durga. It is known that many in Bengal and Odisa worship Mahisasur. This is a matter among Hindus. The issue of Afazal is different and is not relevant when we talk about worship of Hindu deities (or Hindu demons).
Wow, that is very generous, going by that argument there is no issue about Godse's followers celebrating ..afterall everyone has his own views and rights !
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Lust for daughter of a father is evil for Hindus and I think also for followers of other religion. It is surprsing that huge of engaged couple is evil but lust of father for daughter is right one.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
by Ashish
If demanding dowry is a crime then demanding alimony is womens rights how it is possible???? If dowry is a crime then alimony also must be a crime
There is absolutely no right to alimony since even a deserving totally dependent wife who has no career and money of her own, worked like a slave for the welfare and upkeep of her family, has to fight it out at the family court which is most of the time prejudiced against the women of our country and our Indian men never complain but lord it up when the wife works free of cost giving her all to the family but question her right for maintenance when things go wrong and the poor woman is literally on the street ..
Nothing wrong in alimony if wife or husband have not any other means of earning. It is ritual in Muslims, Mehar, the amount which will payable to wife in case of divorce.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
usha manohar wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Indias defence budget has always been smaller compared to other countries even Pakistan spends on its military upkeep...It was increased modestly after BJP came into power and it has again been increased slightly this year. However, I was reading that over the years even that modest allocation was not utilised fully by the previous governments ( will try to provide a link when I find the article). No wonder our poor army personnel are so badly equipped . One should admire the courage and the patriotism of our people and armed forces who join and render their services inspite of these short comings.
It may be a good idea to send the whole lot of our politicians who beat their chest about patriotism on a compulsory military training for a year before they join politics..
The congress is to blame for many things and Nehru was responsible for surrendering the leadership of Asia to China. During his time Dr Rajendra Prasad made a mockery by a ludicrous statement that the army be disbanded ( In 1955). Nehru was always scared of a military coup and downgraded the army. Even later Congress leaders never realised importance of military. Only Modi government appears to be serious.
Incidentally Kargill and 65 war at best were a draw only. Only the victory in 71 is worth talking about, but that was also as the Pak had just 0ne squadron and 3 division in East. Pakistan miscalculated on US support, which was not forthcoming as Indira invoked the security pact with Russia.
In fact small gains made in the 1965 war were given away during the Tashkent agreement, god knows why? We lost many more soldiers than Pakistan and many more artileries and tanks than them , so it was definitely not a win..
True...how can a win be a win if we give away our own territories back to the enemy. But some people simply refuse to accept the truth, they find it to bitter to swallow it.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic A lovely gift from a sweet friend.....
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
That is really nice Kalyani, was it from Sweta Shenoy ? moderator and one of the older members here ?
Yes, Usha it is Swetha Shenoy, it was my birthday yesterday so she remembered and sent it in advance.
This indicates deep emotional attachment among Boddunan users. Sweta Shenoy was once very active member. It gives me pleasure to note her gesture of sending gift to Kalyani, our esteemed senior member.
Thank you Gulshan, yes Swetha is indeed taking efforts to create a beautiful friendship.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to chinmoymukherjee for his/her reply to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Your comparison of two dissimilar matters is devoid of
all logic and rationality. The diference between the two sticks out a mile. It is in keeping with civilized practices of the world to protect the financial stakes of a weak party who is caught holding the rough end of the stick of a failed marital relationship. Dowry is rooted in savagery while alimony stands at an altogether different plane!!
9 years ago
Babu saroj said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
If u read between lines my intention was to inculcate a sense of balance in the moderator's language which most of the time is threatening. A moderator has to be neutral and persuasive and mentoring. Bias cannot be a basis of advice. You also give advice from time to time but do not bully or threaten. Rambabu can do it for he is not a moderator.
9 years ago
Babu saroj liked a reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
9 years ago
vijay said thank you to Kalyani Nandurkar for his/her reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
Fyi both our esteemed members Mr. Singh and Mr. Vijay, the concerned member has been gently told in quite polite words before this and he still persisted in his doings, which led to strong language. If you think it is infructuous and waste of time discussion, then I cannot help it, members like to have such discussions from time to time., since you both are here only for a short time comparatively, you may have missed other discussions. But I do find that such discussions are quite necessary and needed occasionally. Not my problem if you do not agree.
Mr. Vijay, thanks for enlightening us all with attributes of mentoring as a moderator, but we know what kind of language should be used to what kind of members. So thank you.
And since no one is desirous of letting the topic go and it offends you all so much , I am locking this thread. It has no further utility left.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
What is new in it.After all such things can be done by only those in power. As BJP did in MP vyapam scandal or Vasundhra did in Rajasthan to help Lalit Modi. Such acts can be done only if one is in power. There is not a single officer with guts in the country. They regain voice only aftr retirement . They should also be prosecuted for following illegal orders alongwith politicians.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Jincy Aby wrote:
If people in a family are broad minded, they can accept a girl inside their family without dowry. How many people are ready to marry a girl without dowry? These kind of possibilities are only in love marriage especially when the couples do register marriage without getting permission and support from family members.
If the husband and wife are financially well settled, they do not try for getting alimony during the time of divorce. They give least importance to such matters.
There are many families where arranged marriage gets fixed without dowry. It's not a matter of having any broad mind rather it must be the trend for marriage fixation and especially the boy and the girl must have guts to say not to marriage with dowry. About alimony I would say that see the celebrity circle. The wives are accepting alimony even after being so rich.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
Yes it is still not 100% ...My sister who is a gynecologist goes to villages with their mobile unit and there have been times when they have been threatened and abused by muslim men because their wives were advised on family planning by the doctors..They had to lodge a police complaint once because these men would not let them work in the village which comprises of all religious groups ..
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Babu saroj wrote:
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
I guess it is better you get the exact definition of alimony and understand it before making that comment
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Let's discuss facts.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
rambabu wrote:
vijay wrote:
Please address the issue of caste war within Hinduism and not bring Afzal etc into it to digress.
Yes, Afzal Guru and the likes of such heroes should garlanded and given a Red carpet welcome.
I think Vijay was referring to dalits' right to worship Mahishasur just as others could worship Durga. It is known that many in Bengal and Odisa worship Mahisasur. This is a matter among Hindus. The issue of Afazal is different and is not relevant when we talk about worship of Hindu deities (or Hindu demons).
Wow, that is very generous, going by that argument there is no issue about Godse's followers celebrating ..afterall everyone has his own views and rights !
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Lust for daughter of a father is evil for Hindus and I think also for followers of other religion. It is surprsing that huge of engaged couple is evil but lust of father for daughter is right one.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
by Ashish
If demanding dowry is a crime then demanding alimony is womens rights how it is possible???? If dowry is a crime then alimony also must be a crime
There is absolutely no right to alimony since even a deserving totally dependent wife who has no career and money of her own, worked like a slave for the welfare and upkeep of her family, has to fight it out at the family court which is most of the time prejudiced against the women of our country and our Indian men never complain but lord it up when the wife works free of cost giving her all to the family but question her right for maintenance when things go wrong and the poor woman is literally on the street ..
Nothing wrong in alimony if wife or husband have not any other means of earning. It is ritual in Muslims, Mehar, the amount which will payable to wife in case of divorce.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
usha manohar wrote:
MG Singh wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Indias defence budget has always been smaller compared to other countries even Pakistan spends on its military upkeep...It was increased modestly after BJP came into power and it has again been increased slightly this year. However, I was reading that over the years even that modest allocation was not utilised fully by the previous governments ( will try to provide a link when I find the article). No wonder our poor army personnel are so badly equipped . One should admire the courage and the patriotism of our people and armed forces who join and render their services inspite of these short comings.
It may be a good idea to send the whole lot of our politicians who beat their chest about patriotism on a compulsory military training for a year before they join politics..
The congress is to blame for many things and Nehru was responsible for surrendering the leadership of Asia to China. During his time Dr Rajendra Prasad made a mockery by a ludicrous statement that the army be disbanded ( In 1955). Nehru was always scared of a military coup and downgraded the army. Even later Congress leaders never realised importance of military. Only Modi government appears to be serious.
Incidentally Kargill and 65 war at best were a draw only. Only the victory in 71 is worth talking about, but that was also as the Pak had just 0ne squadron and 3 division in East. Pakistan miscalculated on US support, which was not forthcoming as Indira invoked the security pact with Russia.
In fact small gains made in the 1965 war were given away during the Tashkent agreement, god knows why? We lost many more soldiers than Pakistan and many more artileries and tanks than them , so it was definitely not a win..
True...how can a win be a win if we give away our own territories back to the enemy. But some people simply refuse to accept the truth, they find it to bitter to swallow it.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar replied to the topic A lovely gift from a sweet friend.....
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
That is really nice Kalyani, was it from Sweta Shenoy ? moderator and one of the older members here ?
Yes, Usha it is Swetha Shenoy, it was my birthday yesterday so she remembered and sent it in advance.
This indicates deep emotional attachment among Boddunan users. Sweta Shenoy was once very active member. It gives me pleasure to note her gesture of sending gift to Kalyani, our esteemed senior member.
Thank you Gulshan, yes Swetha is indeed taking efforts to create a beautiful friendship.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
9 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar said thank you to chinmoymukherjee for his/her reply to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Your comparison of two dissimilar matters is devoid of
all logic and rationality. The diference between the two sticks out a mile. It is in keeping with civilized practices of the world to protect the financial stakes of a weak party who is caught holding the rough end of the stick of a failed marital relationship. Dowry is rooted in savagery while alimony stands at an altogether different plane!!
9 years ago
Babu saroj said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
If u read between lines my intention was to inculcate a sense of balance in the moderator's language which most of the time is threatening. A moderator has to be neutral and persuasive and mentoring. Bias cannot be a basis of advice. You also give advice from time to time but do not bully or threaten. Rambabu can do it for he is not a moderator.
9 years ago
Babu saroj liked a reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
9 years ago
vijay said thank you to Kalyani Nandurkar for his/her reply to the topic Japanese population is declined while India having population explosion.
Fyi both our esteemed members Mr. Singh and Mr. Vijay, the concerned member has been gently told in quite polite words before this and he still persisted in his doings, which led to strong language. If you think it is infructuous and waste of time discussion, then I cannot help it, members like to have such discussions from time to time., since you both are here only for a short time comparatively, you may have missed other discussions. But I do find that such discussions are quite necessary and needed occasionally. Not my problem if you do not agree.
Mr. Vijay, thanks for enlightening us all with attributes of mentoring as a moderator, but we know what kind of language should be used to what kind of members. So thank you.
And since no one is desirous of letting the topic go and it offends you all so much , I am locking this thread. It has no further utility left.
9 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
What is new in it.After all such things can be done by only those in power. As BJP did in MP vyapam scandal or Vasundhra did in Rajasthan to help Lalit Modi. Such acts can be done only if one is in power. There is not a single officer with guts in the country. They regain voice only aftr retirement . They should also be prosecuted for following illegal orders alongwith politicians.
9 years ago