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rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
I am not talking abut rain in South. I mean that high price is not a new problem. Every summer have this situation.
I agree.In the recent past,prices soared up especially vegetables due to inadequate rain fall. Now, with occasional rains, prices came down.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
suni51 wrote:
Please do not underrate moderators on this site but there are certain other reasons. However, I have certain other points in my mind which I guess you somehow managed to read on editorial forum. I am not sure how you managed to access that one though. Another glitch on the part of site I guess but I was astounded reading your post on that thread.
I too am not sure how I was able to post, probably the glitch that enabled me to do so...The posts are seen on notifications and I clicked n one of them..
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Can Coffee Cause Cancer ?.
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Some people like to drink much hot one specially in rural are. Thank God I have not this habit. I can't drink much hot.
you are saved.drink coffee or tea to that matter any drink,don't drink fuming hot.This may damage your taste buds,and also lead to cancer.
Damage test buds will cure but cancer
damaged taste buds is not a small thing. after some time you will not the difference between sweet and sour.
Taste buds also damaged with chewing tobacco.
Definitely, Tobacco chewing too damage,taste buds and cause cancer.Because, the thread is about consumption of beverages,drunk at more than 65 degrees Celsius let's stick to the subject.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
Babu saroj wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
I am still active on one such site that pays you for 10 forum posts a day but you are free to write as many as you like. They are very strict but pay you as soon as you reach your payment threshold ($5).
It would be great to have the same rule here, so that all members earn equally for their efforts and those interested in " sharing knowledge " regardless of whether they get points or not can go on posting to their hearts content !
@Sunil, tell me the name of this site.
I have given it on your FB page. You can try it because it will you give you a whole new idea about what is going on in the online world.
Thanks I will.
i too will try thanks for the advice
You may want to try but I doubt if you continue to post like here , they will tolerate you for long unlike here where moderators have been very generous with you ..
That's why i like this site very much than other site because here head understand the sentiments of other members
Liking Boddunan js not a new thing. Which is why, many old members wh0 discontinued started coming back.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Advantages and Disadvantages of R.O. water..
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
we should use that waste water in something else instead of throwing like we can use that waste water in gardening etc.
How many houses have space for gardening, it is better to use water purifier than R.O. If water contain heavy mineral than one can be use R.O water purifier,
Can you suggest best water purifier, in which one will have full trustays
There are several ways for water purification at home. We use Indupigaya .Impurities float on the surface within seconds.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Advantages and Disadvantages of R.O. water..
anil wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
we should use that waste water in something else instead of throwing like we can use that waste water in gardening etc.
How many houses have space for gardening, it is better to use water purifier than R.O. If water contain heavy mineral than one can be use R.O water purifier,
Can you suggest best water purifier, in which one will have full trust
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
I am still active on one such site that pays you for 10 forum posts a day but you are free to write as many as you like. They are very strict but pay you as soon as you reach your payment threshold ($5).
It would be great to have the same rule here, so that all members earn equally for their efforts and those interested in " sharing knowledge " regardless of whether they get points or not can go on posting to their hearts content !
@Sunil, tell me the name of this site.
I have given it on your FB page. You can try it because it will you give you a whole new idea about what is going on in the online world.
Thanks I will.
i too will try thanks for the advice
You may want to try but I doubt if you continue to post like here , they will tolerate you for long unlike here where moderators have been very generous with you ..
That's why i like this site very much than other site because here head understand the sentiments of other members
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic What does success mean?.
Satisfaction = happiness but we want to taste and feel true success then we should be satisfied.
9 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
@Sunil
Let us remain faithful to facts and figures. A closer look at balance sheets of banks would convince even a school student of the massive fraud which the management of these have been perpetrating on the gullible people which has been resisted and exposed by Rajan. You talk of the plight of fixed income earners who are outside the protective care for organized sectors which constitute barely 12% of the populace and it is horror days for them not 'acche din' promised by Modi!! Arun Jaitley with declared assets over 50 crores could be inhumnly insensitive to their plight but how a person who takes great pride in earlier avatar as'chaiwalla' could be so! I request you to minutely follow Rajan's decisions on monetary policies taken at different quarters during his tenure to understand the kind of pulls and pressures to resist rate cuts.Had he obliged Swamy and his ilk - mind you he is just not one representing a horde - your income would have taken a nose-dive!!""
9 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
@Usha The point you forgot which you added later strenghtens my apprehension about the kind of smear campaign that this honorable man has confronted to finally opt for the the only choice that a person of his stature left with.You make me believe that he has been doing Chidambaram's bidding throwing all his professional expertise and ethics -hah!! I respect your views but let us agree to disagree this time.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can Coffee Cause Cancer ?.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Some people like to drink much hot one specially in rural are. Thank God I have not this habit. I can't drink much hot.
you are saved.drink coffee or tea to that matter any drink,don't drink fuming hot.This may damage your taste buds,and also lead to cancer.
Damage test buds will cure but cancer
damaged taste buds is not a small thing. after some time you will not the difference between sweet and sour.
Taste buds also damaged with chewing tobacco.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Man has lost his all morals for money..
rambabu wrote:
Greed for money, makes people into animals Here,in my place, every now and then,I hear incidents of Son,Killing Father, Sister killing her own Brother,because, brother inherited all the property of her father.
Na Biwi Na Bachha, Na Baap Bada Na Bhiya, whole Is that, Sabsey Bada Rupyeea
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
I am not talking abut rain in South. I mean that high price is not a new problem. Every summer have this situation.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic The Inside Story of Nehru, Gandhi and Patel.
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Thanks for sharing this article. It is universal truth that If patel was First PM of India than map of India will be another.
so you think that Patel was better than Nehru.
No doubt he was, so Haydraba, Junagarh, Jodhpur and Kashmir is part of India.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The Inside Story of Nehru, Gandhi and Patel.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Thanks for sharing this article. It is universal truth that If patel was First PM of India than map of India will be another.
so you think that Patel was better than Nehru.
Can't say exactly. But Nehru was more popular. Again Patel lived very short. Whatever decision were taken, Nehru would be ultimately P.M. for good many years even if Patel were first P.M. It cannot be said that Patel would longer if he were first P.M.
Secondly, most of the article does not contain anything new. Most of the content is rumor based.
There is a saying there is no smoke without fire similarly , so called rumors have some truth on which the rumors are based. The manner in which the Nehru family has been cultivated through the years shows a single minded dedication towards making India a family ruled proposition which seemed to have succeeded to a large extent , probably due to the ignorance of the masses and clever manipulation of the concerned political leaders ..
There are elements who would make vicious propaganda continuously and make others that there must be some truth as there is no smoke without fire. This is just technique of the rumor makers. Undoubtedly there has been continuous propaganda by fascist and saffron elements to malign the secular forces. They have spread canards against Nehru and Indira Gandhi dubbing them as 'Muslim'. Such vicious propaganda is available on U Tube. One such piece of propaganda is that Moti Lal Nehru's parents were Muslim and Firoz Gandhi, Indira Gandhi's husband was a Muslim even though he was Parsi. There is not only false propaganda against Nehru but this has also communal and fascist angle.
There is nothing vicious about Gandhis having Islamic background, how does it matter ? In fact I remember reading about this long back - that Feroze Gandhi's mother was a Parsee and father a muslim. I doubt if it changes things since what damage the family owned business has done has already been done to this country and where does one even start to list out the misdeeds ?
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
vijay wrote:
The decision of Rajan is the decision of a honourable person. He was taking standard economic theory based decisions. To contain inflation interest rates have to be increased to mop up excess money supply and when it came down the rates had to be brought down. BJP feels that by making money cheaper by low interest rates investment will go up. This is what industrialists want, because they can reap more profits with less effort. Also Rajan daringly brought out the hopeless condition of banks by telling them to bring NPA's on account books and they all went into losses. It is again proved that no self respecting individual with vision and daring can work in Indian system. Vested interests will sooner or later eject him out. If Modi wanted him could others have dared to gang up against him. Why is he being isolated from wrongs of the govt. by some forum bhaktas.
I am agree with you for you views for RRR. No doubt he is great economist. In whole term his focus is on making strong to Indian economy. He is not a yes man.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronization of education on agenda.
vijay wrote:
It is the truth that is now coming out It is clear no one in BJP is now afraid of the PM. Everyone does what he wants.
Why to fear from Modi, if some one is speaking rubbish pubic will teach them lesson.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
vijay wrote:
Which states and which monsoon.? Which India are you in?
How many Indias are there ? I'm talking about my state AP and Telengana.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
I am not talking abut rain in South. I mean that high price is not a new problem. Every summer have this situation.
I agree.In the recent past,prices soared up especially vegetables due to inadequate rain fall. Now, with occasional rains, prices came down.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
suni51 wrote:
Please do not underrate moderators on this site but there are certain other reasons. However, I have certain other points in my mind which I guess you somehow managed to read on editorial forum. I am not sure how you managed to access that one though. Another glitch on the part of site I guess but I was astounded reading your post on that thread.
I too am not sure how I was able to post, probably the glitch that enabled me to do so...The posts are seen on notifications and I clicked n one of them..
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Can Coffee Cause Cancer ?.
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Some people like to drink much hot one specially in rural are. Thank God I have not this habit. I can't drink much hot.
you are saved.drink coffee or tea to that matter any drink,don't drink fuming hot.This may damage your taste buds,and also lead to cancer.
Damage test buds will cure but cancer
damaged taste buds is not a small thing. after some time you will not the difference between sweet and sour.
Taste buds also damaged with chewing tobacco.
Definitely, Tobacco chewing too damage,taste buds and cause cancer.Because, the thread is about consumption of beverages,drunk at more than 65 degrees Celsius let's stick to the subject.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
Babu saroj wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
I am still active on one such site that pays you for 10 forum posts a day but you are free to write as many as you like. They are very strict but pay you as soon as you reach your payment threshold ($5).
It would be great to have the same rule here, so that all members earn equally for their efforts and those interested in " sharing knowledge " regardless of whether they get points or not can go on posting to their hearts content !
@Sunil, tell me the name of this site.
I have given it on your FB page. You can try it because it will you give you a whole new idea about what is going on in the online world.
Thanks I will.
i too will try thanks for the advice
You may want to try but I doubt if you continue to post like here , they will tolerate you for long unlike here where moderators have been very generous with you ..
That's why i like this site very much than other site because here head understand the sentiments of other members
Liking Boddunan js not a new thing. Which is why, many old members wh0 discontinued started coming back.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Advantages and Disadvantages of R.O. water..
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
we should use that waste water in something else instead of throwing like we can use that waste water in gardening etc.
How many houses have space for gardening, it is better to use water purifier than R.O. If water contain heavy mineral than one can be use R.O water purifier,
Can you suggest best water purifier, in which one will have full trustays
There are several ways for water purification at home. We use Indupigaya .Impurities float on the surface within seconds.
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Advantages and Disadvantages of R.O. water..
anil wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
we should use that waste water in something else instead of throwing like we can use that waste water in gardening etc.
How many houses have space for gardening, it is better to use water purifier than R.O. If water contain heavy mineral than one can be use R.O water purifier,
Can you suggest best water purifier, in which one will have full trust
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic Be Very Careful.
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
suni51 wrote:
anil wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
suni51 wrote:
I am still active on one such site that pays you for 10 forum posts a day but you are free to write as many as you like. They are very strict but pay you as soon as you reach your payment threshold ($5).
It would be great to have the same rule here, so that all members earn equally for their efforts and those interested in " sharing knowledge " regardless of whether they get points or not can go on posting to their hearts content !
@Sunil, tell me the name of this site.
I have given it on your FB page. You can try it because it will you give you a whole new idea about what is going on in the online world.
Thanks I will.
i too will try thanks for the advice
You may want to try but I doubt if you continue to post like here , they will tolerate you for long unlike here where moderators have been very generous with you ..
That's why i like this site very much than other site because here head understand the sentiments of other members
9 years ago
Babu saroj replied to the topic What does success mean?.
Satisfaction = happiness but we want to taste and feel true success then we should be satisfied.
9 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
@Sunil
Let us remain faithful to facts and figures. A closer look at balance sheets of banks would convince even a school student of the massive fraud which the management of these have been perpetrating on the gullible people which has been resisted and exposed by Rajan. You talk of the plight of fixed income earners who are outside the protective care for organized sectors which constitute barely 12% of the populace and it is horror days for them not 'acche din' promised by Modi!! Arun Jaitley with declared assets over 50 crores could be inhumnly insensitive to their plight but how a person who takes great pride in earlier avatar as'chaiwalla' could be so! I request you to minutely follow Rajan's decisions on monetary policies taken at different quarters during his tenure to understand the kind of pulls and pressures to resist rate cuts.Had he obliged Swamy and his ilk - mind you he is just not one representing a horde - your income would have taken a nose-dive!!""
9 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
@Usha The point you forgot which you added later strenghtens my apprehension about the kind of smear campaign that this honorable man has confronted to finally opt for the the only choice that a person of his stature left with.You make me believe that he has been doing Chidambaram's bidding throwing all his professional expertise and ethics -hah!! I respect your views but let us agree to disagree this time.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Can Coffee Cause Cancer ?.
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
Some people like to drink much hot one specially in rural are. Thank God I have not this habit. I can't drink much hot.
you are saved.drink coffee or tea to that matter any drink,don't drink fuming hot.This may damage your taste buds,and also lead to cancer.
Damage test buds will cure but cancer
damaged taste buds is not a small thing. after some time you will not the difference between sweet and sour.
Taste buds also damaged with chewing tobacco.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Man has lost his all morals for money..
rambabu wrote:
Greed for money, makes people into animals Here,in my place, every now and then,I hear incidents of Son,Killing Father, Sister killing her own Brother,because, brother inherited all the property of her father.
Na Biwi Na Bachha, Na Baap Bada Na Bhiya, whole Is that, Sabsey Bada Rupyeea
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
rambabu wrote:
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
I am not talking abut rain in South. I mean that high price is not a new problem. Every summer have this situation.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic The Inside Story of Nehru, Gandhi and Patel.
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Thanks for sharing this article. It is universal truth that If patel was First PM of India than map of India will be another.
so you think that Patel was better than Nehru.
No doubt he was, so Haydraba, Junagarh, Jodhpur and Kashmir is part of India.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic The Inside Story of Nehru, Gandhi and Patel.
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
anil wrote:
Thanks for sharing this article. It is universal truth that If patel was First PM of India than map of India will be another.
so you think that Patel was better than Nehru.
Can't say exactly. But Nehru was more popular. Again Patel lived very short. Whatever decision were taken, Nehru would be ultimately P.M. for good many years even if Patel were first P.M. It cannot be said that Patel would longer if he were first P.M.
Secondly, most of the article does not contain anything new. Most of the content is rumor based.
There is a saying there is no smoke without fire similarly , so called rumors have some truth on which the rumors are based. The manner in which the Nehru family has been cultivated through the years shows a single minded dedication towards making India a family ruled proposition which seemed to have succeeded to a large extent , probably due to the ignorance of the masses and clever manipulation of the concerned political leaders ..
There are elements who would make vicious propaganda continuously and make others that there must be some truth as there is no smoke without fire. This is just technique of the rumor makers. Undoubtedly there has been continuous propaganda by fascist and saffron elements to malign the secular forces. They have spread canards against Nehru and Indira Gandhi dubbing them as 'Muslim'. Such vicious propaganda is available on U Tube. One such piece of propaganda is that Moti Lal Nehru's parents were Muslim and Firoz Gandhi, Indira Gandhi's husband was a Muslim even though he was Parsi. There is not only false propaganda against Nehru but this has also communal and fascist angle.
There is nothing vicious about Gandhis having Islamic background, how does it matter ? In fact I remember reading about this long back - that Feroze Gandhi's mother was a Parsee and father a muslim. I doubt if it changes things since what damage the family owned business has done has already been done to this country and where does one even start to list out the misdeeds ?
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Modi is not a Karamyogi as he sits on his promises.
vijay wrote:
The decision of Rajan is the decision of a honourable person. He was taking standard economic theory based decisions. To contain inflation interest rates have to be increased to mop up excess money supply and when it came down the rates had to be brought down. BJP feels that by making money cheaper by low interest rates investment will go up. This is what industrialists want, because they can reap more profits with less effort. Also Rajan daringly brought out the hopeless condition of banks by telling them to bring NPA's on account books and they all went into losses. It is again proved that no self respecting individual with vision and daring can work in Indian system. Vested interests will sooner or later eject him out. If Modi wanted him could others have dared to gang up against him. Why is he being isolated from wrongs of the govt. by some forum bhaktas.
I am agree with you for you views for RRR. No doubt he is great economist. In whole term his focus is on making strong to Indian economy. He is not a yes man.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
anil wrote:
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.ienced
I'm from AP and Telangana is my neighboring State. It's not Paper News. Chttoor district,which often has less Rainfall, is also experiencing moderate Rainfall.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Saffronization of education on agenda.
vijay wrote:
It is the truth that is now coming out It is clear no one in BJP is now afraid of the PM. Everyone does what he wants.
Why to fear from Modi, if some one is speaking rubbish pubic will teach them lesson.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
rambabu wrote:
Santosh Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes its true that We buy things after give all commission and charges. There should be option to buy direct from farmer.e
Right now, in some States,prices of vegetables are reducing, because of Monsoons.
Monsoons don't reached in North, we are facing very bad weather here. Scream e shout of newspaper and channel for prices of vegetables is meaning less. It is not happening first time. It is story of every summer that price of vegetable increased.
9 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Different prices of vegetables in different places..
vijay wrote:
Which states and which monsoon.? Which India are you in?
How many Indias are there ? I'm talking about my state AP and Telengana.
9 years ago