Talwars found guity of murdering their daughter Aarushi..

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The judgment is out just now and the Talwars have been found guilty of murdering their daughter as well as their domestic help Hemraj.The incident took place 5 years ago in May 2008 and there have been many twiists and turns after which, the CBI felt that only the Talwars had the reason and opportunity to commit murder..

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Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
They should have sent Arushi to a good boarding school and there she would be living and there would not be any Hemraj to create difficulties.

All are running behind money. People worrying for money and status. No one have time for family and children. Join family system is in last stage. With this case people should be decide their priorty. Money, status or family.


Everything you mentioned is necessary but not at the cost of your own children. One has to keep a balance on everything and children should come first. After all we are earning money for our loved ones.


Hem rajs are present in every corner and every street. In the boarding schools several girls were molested by their own wardens. If there is no safety in the home. You can't find safety anywhere.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
They should have sent Arushi to a good boarding school and there she would be living and there would not be any Hemraj to create difficulties.

All are running behind money. People worrying for money and status. No one have time for family and children. Join family system is in last stage. With this case people should be decide their priorty. Money, status or family.


Everything you mentioned is necessary but not at the cost of your own children. One has to keep a balance on everything and children should come first. After all we are earning money for our loved ones.


Hem rajs are present in every corner and every street. In the boarding schools several girls were molested by their own wardens. If there is no safety in the home. You can't find safety anywhere.
There are good boarding which are devoid of these sins. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
They should have sent Arushi to a good boarding school and there she would be living and there would not be any Hemraj to create difficulties.

All are running behind money. People worrying for money and status. No one have time for family and children. Join family system is in last stage. With this case people should be decide their priorty. Money, status or family.


Everything you mentioned is necessary but not at the cost of your own children. One has to keep a balance on everything and children should come first. After all we are earning money for our loved ones.


Hem rajs are present in every corner and every street. In the boarding schools several girls were molested by their own wardens. If there is no safety in the home. You can't find safety anywhere.
There are good boarding which are devoid of these sins. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:


May be. But there is no surety of safety. It will be there and it continues to be there.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...


Yes irresponsibility on the part of the parents and not caring for the happenings in their absence led to all the subsequent happenings.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...


Those factors are indeed the cause for everything that happened that night. Blame it on globalization that has brought everything within easy reach that can be bought with money, but did not bring with it the maturity to deal with such factors with maturity and level heads!
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...


Those factors are indeed the cause for everything that happened that night. Blame it on globalization that has brought everything within easy reach that can be bought with money, but did not bring with it the maturity to deal with such factors with maturity and level heads!


[quote] @ Rambabu - Yes irresponsibility on the part of the parents and not caring for the happenings in their absence led to all the subsequent happenings.[/quote]

I totally agree that lifestyle has a lot to do with what course our lives can take and this is the worst possible example there is ! I hope that all the upper middle class women take note ...We had a case here in Mangalore where a teenager , an only daughter coming from an extremely wealthy family owning Coffee plantations ,killed herself because she felt lonely ..The girl had been depressed for a long time but the parents both busy making money had no time to sit and talk to her and bring her out of her depression...Such a waste of life and what use is their money or status?
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...


Those factors are indeed the cause for everything that happened that night. Blame it on globalization that has brought everything within easy reach that can be bought with money, but did not bring with it the maturity to deal with such factors with maturity and level heads!


[quote] @ Rambabu - Yes irresponsibility on the part of the parents and not caring for the happenings in their absence led to all the subsequent happenings.


I totally agree that lifestyle has a lot to do with what course our lives can take and this is the worst possible example there is ! I hope that all the upper middle class women take note ...We had a case here in Mangalore where a teenager , an only daughter coming from an extremely wealthy family owning Coffee plantations ,killed herself because she felt lonely ..The girl had been depressed for a long time but the parents both busy making money had no time to sit and talk to her and bring her out of her depression...Such a waste of life and what use is their money or status?[/quote]

Such cases are a legion and what is unfortunate that none is listening!!! Aarushi tragedy is neither the first nor painfully would be the last one!! Bribing your children is pushing them into death and worse!! Please spare a thought that they are very much yours!!!!
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.


The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...


Those factors are indeed the cause for everything that happened that night. Blame it on globalization that has brought everything within easy reach that can be bought with money, but did not bring with it the maturity to deal with such factors with maturity and level heads!


[quote] @ Rambabu - Yes irresponsibility on the part of the parents and not caring for the happenings in their absence led to all the subsequent happenings.


I totally agree that lifestyle has a lot to do with what course our lives can take and this is the worst possible example there is ! I hope that all the upper middle class women take note ...We had a case here in Mangalore where a teenager , an only daughter coming from an extremely wealthy family owning Coffee plantations ,killed herself because she felt lonely ..The girl had been depressed for a long time but the parents both busy making money had no time to sit and talk to her and bring her out of her depression...Such a waste of life and what use is their money or status?


Such cases are a legion and what is unfortunate that none is listening!!! Aarushi tragedy is neither the first nor painfully would be the last one!! Bribing your children is pushing them into death and worse!! Please spare a thought that they are very much yours!!!![/quote]

Well said
In hurry to make bucks,and more and more mundane comforts people are not in a position to spare a thought about their children that they are very much theirs. If at all there is a thought in the minds of such parents,it's ," Make hay while the sun shines."
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


No. Boarding schools are not a sure guarantee to the same upbringing that a direct parental upbringing gives. I have seen many busy parents giving the required time to their children. No need to give up the jobs by the women.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


I too don't agree that there exists any such rural and urban divide in this regard but one has to keep the pragmatic reality that the problem has been steadily worsening in the urban areas. A typical rural household still retains the last vestige of the joint family system.
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


I too don't agree that there exists any such rural and urban divide in this regard but one has to keep the pragmatic reality that the problem has been steadily worsening in the urban areas. A typical rural household still retains the last vestige of the joint family system.


I agree ! Many couple dont want to have their parents living with them, which to a great extent solves the problem of looking after young children....I know of my own colleagues and friends who would rather suffer and send children to extended tuition classes and to their friends houses ( where again the parents are out working) rather than let their in laws live with them>they feel that it curtails their freedom - this may be true to a certain extent but we have to dispassionately consider what is the best option that is there under the circumstance and opt for that .After having had children you need to do the best you can for them.If you do the bare minimum for them ( money doe not come in here ) they will definitely grow up to be quite indifferent to you as well as others ..
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


I too don't agree that there exists any such rural and urban divide in this regard but one has to keep the pragmatic reality that the problem has been steadily worsening in the urban areas. A typical rural household still retains the last vestige of the joint family system.


I agree ! Many couple dont want to have their parents living with them, which to a great extent solves the problem of looking after young children....I know of my own colleagues and friends who would rather suffer and send children to extended tuition classes and to their friends houses ( where again the parents are out working) rather than let their in laws live with them>they feel that it curtails their freedom - this may be true to a certain extent but we have to dispassionately consider what is the best option that is there under the circumstance and opt for that .After having had children you need to do the best you can for them.If you do the bare minimum for them ( money doe not come in here ) they will definitely grow up to be quite indifferent to you as well as others ..


To my great consternation, I find some parents' intense dislike for involving grandparents in the formative years of their grandchildren, holding forth such queer views that their indulgence might spoil them, huh!! There used to be days in not so distant days that a child's best friend was thought to be granddad or grandma!!! How things have changed!!
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


I too don't agree that there exists any such rural and urban divide in this regard but one has to keep the pragmatic reality that the problem has been steadily worsening in the urban areas. A typical rural household still retains the last vestige of the joint family system.


I agree ! Many couple dont want to have their parents living with them, which to a great extent solves the problem of looking after young children....I know of my own colleagues and friends who would rather suffer and send children to extended tuition classes and to their friends houses ( where again the parents are out working) rather than let their in laws live with them>they feel that it curtails their freedom - this may be true to a certain extent but we have to dispassionately consider what is the best option that is there under the circumstance and opt for that .After having had children you need to do the best you can for them.If you do the bare minimum for them ( money doe not come in here ) they will definitely grow up to be quite indifferent to you as well as others ..


To my great consternation, I find some parents' intense dislike for involving grandparents in the formative years of their grandchildren, holding forth such queer views that their indulgence might spoil them, huh!! There used to be days in not so distant days that a child's best friend was thought to be granddad or grandma!!! How things have changed!!


Unfortunate, but true, that such parents set the pace of each generation and they do not accept the grand-parents' lifestyle to come in the way of their children. In fact I am witness to a couple of family where the parents - for example - never wanted their children to take any home remedy that the grandparents suggested as a cure for any health issue; instead, they thought such remedies are applicable for uneducated and old people only!
Still, it is beyond any sort of comprehension to think such an act by parents, it seems they are now cancers to the society.


No Mohan, I am not that hopeless yet. The situation is not that bad. Not all parents are that cruel, maybe they did it because they were too angry. Still the fault is theirs, they did not keep a good eye on their only child but spent more time in clubs etc.


This points again to the hypocratic attitude of such people, while the parents freely went club-hopping and generally followed a hi-socialite type of lifestyle, the daughter was probably stifled and kept home at all times, left to her own devices, so its not surprising if the domestic servant could charm her and get her to have intercourse with him of her free will! It is parents who were at fault and they cruelly made her pay for it! :blink:


I agree, there are people in so-called upper class and upper middle class. But they only wake up when something goes terribly wrong. And there are many incident of the same kind.
The case has aroused tremendous interest in all parts of the country if not the world because it is not a simple case of murder. A murder that holds too many pointers to a decadent culture of a moribund society, the seamy side of life of an upwardly mobile middle which is awash with money but in a very life-threatening moral crisis.


Apparently the judge while delivering his verdict made a mention of their lifestyle of partying ,consuming liquor beyond certain limit and neglecting the girl which he felt was one of the causes for the tragedy...
They should have sent their child to a good boarding, as it seems they have urban life style, and have been away from home, and it is not safe to leave child with the care of male domestic help.


It has got nothing to do with Urban or rural life styles. A careful supervision even if the child is under the custody of a maid is the point that's missing. Even in urban areas responsible parents are there who are successfully performing their parental duties.


I agree, it depends on individuals..However much one may argue for eqaulity,certain things have to be considered practcally, for example child rearing , which largely falls on the woman since she ius best equipped to do it. One need not ggive up a job but can be a little more vigilent and concerned instead of depending completely on maids and domestic helps...sending children to boarding school may seem like an option but in the long run it will have its own repercussions ..


I too don't agree that there exists any such rural and urban divide in this regard but one has to keep the pragmatic reality that the problem has been steadily worsening in the urban areas. A typical rural household still retains the last vestige of the joint family system.


I agree ! Many couple dont want to have their parents living with them, which to a great extent solves the problem of looking after young children....I know of my own colleagues and friends who would rather suffer and send children to extended tuition classes and to their friends houses ( where again the parents are out working) rather than let their in laws live with them>they feel that it curtails their freedom - this may be true to a certain extent but we have to dispassionately consider what is the best option that is there under the circumstance and opt for that .After having had children you need to do the best you can for them.If you do the bare minimum for them ( money doe not come in here ) they will definitely grow up to be quite indifferent to you as well as others ..


To my great consternation, I find some parents' intense dislike for involving grandparents in the formative years of their grandchildren, holding forth such queer views that their indulgence might spoil them, huh!! There used to be days in not so distant days that a child's best friend was thought to be granddad or grandma!!! How things have changed!!


Unfortunate, but true, that such parents set the pace of each generation and they do not accept the grand-parents' lifestyle to come in the way of their children. In fact I am witness to a couple of family where the parents - for example - never wanted their children to take any home remedy that the grandparents suggested as a cure for any health issue; instead, they thought such remedies are applicable for uneducated and old people only!


That's the true perspective of today's scenario. That the grand parents' indulgence play a spoil sport in the development of a child is nothing short of a fallacy. In fact they play the pivotal role of 'Role model' to the children which is conspicuously absent in these satellite families.
Slowly, we are moving towards unitary system, with it cultural ethos are breaking like ice mountains, future generations are suffering the most.
In a way it shows how our values are crumbling and we have only ourselves to blame when tragedy of this scale happens.Leading a sophisticated lifestyle is of course the prerogative of the individual.But ,unless one is clear about basic issues these things can backfire like it has done in Talwars' case. I see many families these days leading individual lives living in the same house often not even communicating with each other for days together. If you cannot make time for your family there is no point in having one..

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