China at it again ... Failed foreign diplomacy by the Indian government ?

No,India didn't fail in foreign diplomacy.Our Prime Minister and Government is going in a right path.They are thinking about the consequences of the threatening.War or threatening is not only solution for this,we have to try to solve the problem in other measures like strengthening our Border and Defence.

Right path???? The comments about our honoured PM w.r.t the China entering inside Indian border were that it was a 'local issue' , we have still not attempted to recover our lands lost to China, our inability to curb Pakistani attacks on our soldiers and citizens still go on unchecked! How can you say that our government is on the right track?? Maybe there is something we do not know of, that you could throw light on!

'Local issue' means that the issue was being discussed at local level between army authorities of two countries. When the issues at local level are not sorted out, these come at highest level. However, there may be much that we do not know. In fact, the defence matters are secret and it is not desirable to reveal everything to the media or others.

How can a dispute about international border be a local issue and discussed at the local level? I agree there is much more that we may not know about but we cannot be so foolish as to assume such mild talks! Also, it only portrays the apathy on the part of government about critical issues. So contrary to some might believe, we are definitely not on the right track where foreign affairs and policy is concerned.

It is well known that local commanders discuss the issue of violation of border at local level. International border by itself is a matter at top level but this differs from violations which cannot be totally avoided. The borders are not very much defined and some violations can take place even without bad intention. These are military matters and cannot be very transparent. That is why such matters relating to defence are outside scope of RTI.

No,India didn't fail in foreign diplomacy.Our Prime Minister and Government is going in a right path.They are thinking about the consequences of the threatening.War or threatening is not only solution for this,we have to try to solve the problem in other measures like strengthening our Border and Defence.

Right path???? The comments about our honoured PM w.r.t the China entering inside Indian border were that it was a 'local issue' , we have still not attempted to recover our lands lost to China, our inability to curb Pakistani attacks on our soldiers and citizens still go on unchecked! How can you say that our government is on the right track?? Maybe there is something we do not know of, that you could throw light on!

'Local issue' means that the issue was being discussed at local level between army authorities of two countries. When the issues at local level are not sorted out, these come at highest level. However, there may be much that we do not know. In fact, the defence matters are secret and it is not desirable to reveal everything to the media or others.

How can a dispute about international border be a local issue and discussed at the local level? I agree there is much more that we may not know about but we cannot be so foolish as to assume such mild talks! Also, it only portrays the apathy on the part of government about critical issues. So contrary to some might believe, we are definitely not on the right track where foreign affairs and policy is concerned.

It is well known that local commanders discuss the issue of violation of border at local level. International border by itself is a matter at top level but this differs from violations which cannot be totally avoided. The borders are not very much defined and some violations can take place even without bad intention. These are military matters and cannot be very transparent. That is why such matters relating to defence are outside scope of RTI.

That is true, since there is no defining line for one thing and for most parts it is mountain and hilly region where it becomes difficult to know where ones land begins and the others begins....However, India needs to be all the more careful in guarding and keeping watch since it is easier to define it from air I am told...

A nation's diplomatic policy or diplomacy for that matter would be successful only when it is strong enough to make itself heard. So far as our policy towards China is concerned, ironically we accept our position as a submissive brother of a bully. We beg and genuflect before it to make humble submissions!!! No sensible person wants war as its horrific consequences in the form of two World Wars have produced the desirable deterrence to go for the Third! It only brings misery,woes of an imaginable kind and dimensions especially for the people who have had nothing to do with it. But the question here if a bully is fed on its ego, how does a nation face up to it? China has very fewer friends among its neighbors except Pakistan with which it is bound by the common dark design to destabilize India. Pandit Nehru who solely relied upon diplomacy paid a huge price and subsequently things have not changed much. We have failed to nettle China on Tibet. We have failed to build up strategic relationship with Vietnam, Japan with which China shares very uncomfortable relationship to counter its hegemonistic ambitions.

A nation's diplomatic policy or diplomacy for that matter would be successful only when it is strong enough to make itself heard. So far as our policy towards China is concerned, ironically we accept our position as a submissive brother of a bully. We beg and genuflect before it to make humble submissions!!! No sensible person wants war as its horrific consequences in the form of two World Wars have produced the desirable deterrence to go for the Third! It only brings misery,woes of an imaginable kind and dimensions especially for the people who have had nothing to do with it. But the question here if a bully is fed on its ego, how does a nation face up to it? China has very fewer friends among its neighbors except Pakistan with which it is bound by the common dark design to destabilize India. Pandit Nehru who solely relied upon diplomacy paid a huge price and subsequently things have not changed much. We have failed to nettle China on Tibet. We have failed to build up strategic relationship with Vietnam, Japan with which China shares very uncomfortable relationship to counter its hegemonistic ambitions.

I totally agree with those views ...China and Pakistan together can play havoc with India ! Instead of being defensive all the time it is time for us to show that we mean business and be firm in our dealings..

A nation's diplomatic policy or diplomacy for that matter would be successful only when it is strong enough to make itself heard. So far as our policy towards China is concerned, ironically we accept our position as a submissive brother of a bully. We beg and genuflect before it to make humble submissions!!! No sensible person wants war as its horrific consequences in the form of two World Wars have produced the desirable deterrence to go for the Third! It only brings misery,woes of an imaginable kind and dimensions especially for the people who have had nothing to do with it. But the question here if a bully is fed on its ego, how does a nation face up to it? China has very fewer friends among its neighbors except Pakistan with which it is bound by the common dark design to destabilize India. Pandit Nehru who solely relied upon diplomacy paid a huge price and subsequently things have not changed much. We have failed to nettle China on Tibet. We have failed to build up strategic relationship with Vietnam, Japan with which China shares very uncomfortable relationship to counter its hegemonistic ambitions.

I agree. we should not be too aggressive but should build our military strength. As Kennedy said- Do not fear to negotiate but also do not negotiate out of fear. Both china and India need be reasonable. The boundary issue can be solved through serious and sincere discussion. Also We should not let Dalai Lama carry out anti China activities from Indian soil. Similarly, we expect that China should not indulge in mischief like issue of stapled visa to residents of Kashmir.

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

In a war, only personal valor does not work. In 1962 war, Indian soldiers were certainly brave. But we lost because of superior military power of China. We had simple rifles as against automatic rifles of Chinese. Indian soldiers had one rifle each and had to fight continuously without rest. But Chinese were more in number. Three Chinese soldiers had one rifle. They would fight in shifts. While one used the rifle, other two would rest behind.

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

One more issue is that our army is employed for internal purposes also. This diverts army from defence of borders. There is need to avoid using army for internal disturbance so that there could be better preparedness for defence of national borders.

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

One more issue is that our army is employed for internal purposes also. This diverts army from defence of borders. There is need to avoid using army for internal disturbance so that there could be better preparedness for defence of national borders.

Yes, Army should be made free from dealing with internal disturbances, only except for course, in case of emergency like a terrorist attacks, eg. The other semi-military forces like the RAF, Central Reserve Police Forces etc. should be trained more extensively and sophisticated manner to deal with naxalites and other internal disturbances, military should be mobilised only at the borders!

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

One more issue is that our army is employed for internal purposes also. This diverts army from defence of borders. There is need to avoid using army for internal disturbance so that there could be better preparedness for defence of national borders.

Yes, Army should be made free from dealing with internal disturbances, only except for course, in case of emergency like a terrorist attacks, eg. The other semi-military forces like the RAF, Central Reserve Police Forces etc. should be trained more extensively and sophisticated manner to deal with naxalites and other internal disturbances, military should be mobilised only at the borders!

The latest news is that China has built 5 kms long road in Indian territory, and on the other hand they talk of peace and trade....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Face-offs-continue-China-has-built-5km-road-inside-Indian-territory/articleshow/20276993.cms

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

One more issue is that our army is employed for internal purposes also. This diverts army from defence of borders. There is need to avoid using army for internal disturbance so that there could be better preparedness for defence of national borders.

Yes, Army should be made free from dealing with internal disturbances, only except for course, in case of emergency like a terrorist attacks, eg. The other semi-military forces like the RAF, Central Reserve Police Forces etc. should be trained more extensively and sophisticated manner to deal with naxalites and other internal disturbances, military should be mobilised only at the borders!

The latest news is that China has built 5 kms long road in Indian territory, and on the other hand they talk of peace and trade....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Face-offs-continue-China-has-built-5km-road-inside-Indian-territory/articleshow/20276993.cms

It did not surprise me .Long long ago, Indian administration has been branded as a 'bunch of Jokers.' What we can expect from this government, which refuses to learn from their follies ?

Salman Kurshid and Manmohan Singh show their incompetency yet again with regard to dealing with China. China is bent on making trouble for India in some form or the other. Now it is making its presence felt in the Indian Ocean like never before causing concern...
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/chinese-activity-in-indian-ocean-region-to-figure_848377.html

china also construced road in disputed area of Ladakh.

Salman Kurshid and Manmohan Singh show their incompetency yet again with regard to dealing with China. China is bent on making trouble for India in some form or the other. Now it is making its presence felt in the Indian Ocean like never before causing concern...
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/chinese-activity-in-indian-ocean-region-to-figure_848377.html

china also construced road in disputed area of Ladakh.

India should reoccupy the land. Then send a letter of thanks to China for their help.

Right Path in the sense,if we oppose China in our borders then there might be war.Since we lack in forces when compared to China.So,i think we should increase our forces and weapons first. Please visit : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations
http://youthtimes.in/comparison-of-military-power-of-india-and-china/

The best strategy is to work for peace and settlement and also increase military power. But increasing military power involves spending less on luxuries that many will not agree.

Personally , I too feel that one shouldnt spend unecessarily on defence budget, instead concentrate on strengthening , training and instiling confidence in our defense forces by looking after them well and providing for their families...They are doing a great job out there unlike our netas who get all the benefits and Z plus security !

I agree that most of our resources should be concentrated on strengthening our armed forces and special attention should be given to their personal welfare and of their families,. Yet, we cannot remain lax about national security and not have provision for enough defense budget when we are surrounded by hostile countries on all sides. We cannot even trust a tiny nation like Nepal or Bangladesh to support us when need arises. Sri lanka, we can very well forget their support as the deeds of our 'shanti sena' can never be forgotten by them in a hurry. Pakistan is our sworn enemy right from the beginning and no matter how many peace talks are held, we cannot expect the situation to change in the near future. China is a cause for concern as has been proved time and again. Also, we should not remain blind to the fact that they have designs on building three major dams on the River Brahmaputra, imagine once they are brought into reality, what will happen to the economics of our country? Even poor farmers from Malaysia and Thailand stand to suffer. So it is very crucial that we remain on our toes where China is concerned!

One more issue is that our army is employed for internal purposes also. This diverts army from defence of borders. There is need to avoid using army for internal disturbance so that there could be better preparedness for defence of national borders.

Yes, Army should be made free from dealing with internal disturbances, only except for course, in case of emergency like a terrorist attacks, eg. The other semi-military forces like the RAF, Central Reserve Police Forces etc. should be trained more extensively and sophisticated manner to deal with naxalites and other internal disturbances, military should be mobilised only at the borders!

The latest news is that China has built 5 kms long road in Indian territory, and on the other hand they talk of peace and trade....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Face-offs-continue-China-has-built-5km-road-inside-Indian-territory/articleshow/20276993.cms

It did not surprise me .Long long ago, Indian administration has been branded as a 'bunch of Jokers.' What we can expect from this government, which refuses to learn from their follies ?

The problem with Indian mentality is to bend backwards when the opponent is powerful and crush a poor powerless person to pulp ! We still have this slavish mentality, one can see it in the way Indians bow and scrape before Europeans and other whites ...

Salman Kurshid and Manmohan Singh show their incompetency yet again with regard to dealing with China. China is bent on making trouble for India in some form or the other. Now it is making its presence felt in the Indian Ocean like never before causing concern...
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/chinese-activity-in-indian-ocean-region-to-figure_848377.html

china also construced road in disputed area of Ladakh.

Its very late..We should also develop the facilities in the borders like transport etc.,In this case,i think we are lacking the knowledge of improving our border for defence.

Salman Kurshid and Manmohan Singh show their incompetency yet again with regard to dealing with China. China is bent on making trouble for India in some form or the other. Now it is making its presence felt in the Indian Ocean like never before causing concern...
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/chinese-activity-in-indian-ocean-region-to-figure_848377.html

china also construced road in disputed area of Ladakh.

Its very late..We should also develop the facilities in the borders like transport etc.,In this case,i think we are lacking the knowledge of improving our border for defence.

Possible ! that may be due to lack of funds or funds goinbg astray.Otherwise priority shouyld be given to strengthen the borders..

Salman Kurshid and Manmohan Singh show their incompetency yet again with regard to dealing with China. China is bent on making trouble for India in some form or the other. Now it is making its presence felt in the Indian Ocean like never before causing concern...
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/chinese-activity-in-indian-ocean-region-to-figure_848377.html

china also construced road in disputed area of Ladakh.

India should reoccupy the land. Then send a letter of thanks to China for their help.

Is it possible for India to reoccupy the land?