We have some dreaded terrorists languishing in the prison - Abu Salem . Afzal Guru and Ajmal Kasab and of course many others not so (in)famous.
Our government is of course not sure how to punish them and in the bargain spending several crores of rupees just taking care and maintaining them .
There are many people who feel that they should not be given a death sentence since they are just puppets in the hand of those who are calling the shots from across the border.But , at the same time , the deaths were caused by them and they are adults who are able to think for themselves, so why should they not be held responsible for their heinous crimes...
Should they be given death sentence or Life sentence ?
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I agree that there should be no mercy to the terrorists. But mercy petition is a legal remedy that cannot be denied. We must not mix sentiments with law.
Sir, if mercy of death sentence is given then, the justice can't be said to those people, who have lost their lives.
The Number of killing was not 1 or 2 but in 50s or 100s.
I hold that there should be no mercy. But the mercy petition has to be entertained and President's Decision taken. Mercy must not be granted and he must be hanged till death as early as possible.
You mean that it is in the hand of Judge to give mercy or not?
No. Judge cannot give mercy. He has to decide the case. Death sentence is given by District and Sessions Judge. This has to be confirmed by High court. After confirmation by High court, convict may appeal to supreme court. If supreme court also upholds death sentence, the convict can submit mercy petition to President. At this stage, Central government obtains views of state government and sends advice to President- whether to give mercy or not. If mercy is refused, the convict will be hanged.
This procedure is compulsory an has to be followed. I think that the terrorists should not be granted mercy and their petitions should be rejected. However, sometime is required by government to deal with mercy petition.
As of now it is in the hands of the President and Pratibha Patil of course had it with her for more than 2 years , and must have been advised by the Congress party supremo to simply wait and watch..they will continue to do even now !
whatever the law is, if i am the president, i won't allow mercy to terrorist.
I am sure most citizens feel that way, except the ones directly responsible for carrying out the sentence.They have a different game plan altogether .Now with the General elections coming up in a years time, nothing much will be done about the issue ..
Mercy like justice should not be delayed and delay in this regard is nothing but spinelessness. Just think of Afzal's crime- he along with his associates stormed Indian Parliament and the honorable members ran helter skelter for cover to save their precious lives! Who braved and saved their lives - a few nameless,faceless big hearts and no member resigned to register a token protest over the government's spinelessness in executing the court order of hanging the mastermind to death! What a crying shame!
In this particular instance I won't blame any president for it,it's the spinelessness of the head of the government which has exposed to the ridicule of the world! Here again our the conduct of our ex FM and now President should raise questions. He was part of the powerful think-tank which exhibited this spinelessness! Not a single member of this think-tank staked his or her selfish interest to make it an issue to resign!! These days ministers don't resign on their own unless forced to!
Yes, its true, its more about the lack of willingness on part of the ruling government to carry out the executions as has been ordered by the court. But if that is the case, then why are those cases forwarded to the President for petitions?? Why go through all these unnecessary steps that only wastes obscene amounts of our money and creates mountains of useless paper? Once the court has given its judgement, just carry out those orders when the proper times comes!!
In case of death sentence, the culprit has constitutional right to seek mercy. Mercy petition cannot be summarily rejected. Government has no choice as this is constitutional and legal remedy available to culprit. After receiving mercy petition, the government has to follow the proper procedure viz. getting getting opinion of state government concerned and thereafter sending the petition to President of India with cabinet advice.
Once the terrorist is arrested and presented to court, there is long legal process that cannot be avoided. If the terrorist is killed in action, this would be different.
No attempt should be made to defend the indefensible! No judicial process is pending in Afjal Guru's case. The highest court of the land has pronounced the verdict holding him guilty and punishment too was pronounced. The mercy petition has been gathering dust for years for reasons known to all. It's our horrific record of compromising with crimes and criminals that has landed in our present condition. The fact remains that in most of the terrorist violence,the common people are the worst sufferers and there is a yawning disconnect between the thoughts of common masses and our great rulers.
I totally agree with those sentiments ! Indian politicians only look after their interests and nothing else matters . One wonders if they have any national feeling or patriotism left in them...It is disgusting to watch them on TV making excuses for lapses saying 'this is politics and anything is possible ..
I agree that the long judicial process cannot be tampered and it has to run its course in due time. But once that is all done and the court has given its ruling, the mercy petition should not be compulsory for all. In cases where there are terrorists involved, it should not be granted at all, least of all reviewing the case again by the president. But in India, exceptions are only made if the case is directly going to affect vote bank politics!!! There are no feelings of patriotism, those come out only during the Republic Day and the Independence Day, the rest of the days are spent in counting their votes and money! :angry:
Mercy like justice should not be delayed and delay in this regard is nothing but spinelessness. Just think of Afzal's crime- he along with his associates stormed Indian Parliament and the honorable members ran helter skelter for cover to save their precious lives! Who braved and saved their lives - a few nameless,faceless big hearts and no member resigned to register a token protest over the government's spinelessness in executing the court order of hanging the mastermind to death! What a crying shame!
Indian politics is indeed a shameless farce that goes on and on!!!
In this particular instance I won't blame any president for it,it's the spinelessness of the head of the government which has exposed to the ridicule of the world! Here again our the conduct of our ex FM and now President should raise questions. He was part of the powerful think-tank which exhibited this spinelessness! Not a single member of this think-tank staked his or her selfish interest to make it an issue to resign!! These days ministers don't resign on their own unless forced to!
Yes, its true, its more about the lack of willingness on part of the ruling government to carry out the executions as has been ordered by the court. But if that is the case, then why are those cases forwarded to the President for petitions?? Why go through all these unnecessary steps that only wastes obscene amounts of our money and creates mountains of useless paper? Once the court has given its judgement, just carry out those orders when the proper times comes!!
In case of death sentence, the culprit has constitutional right to seek mercy. Mercy petition cannot be summarily rejected. Government has no choice as this is constitutional and legal remedy available to culprit. After receiving mercy petition, the government has to follow the proper procedure viz. getting getting opinion of state government concerned and thereafter sending the petition to President of India with cabinet advice.
Once the terrorist is arrested and presented to court, there is long legal process that cannot be avoided. If the terrorist is killed in action, this would be different.
No attempt should be made to defend the indefensible! No judicial process is pending in Afjal Guru's case. The highest court of the land has pronounced the verdict holding him guilty and punishment too was pronounced. The mercy petition has been gathering dust for years for reasons known to all. It's our horrific record of compromising with crimes and criminals that has landed in our present condition. The fact remains that in most of the terrorist violence,the common people are the worst sufferers and there is a yawning disconnect between the thoughts of common masses and our great rulers.
I totally agree with those sentiments ! Indian politicians only look after their interests and nothing else matters . One wonders if they have any national feeling or patriotism left in them...It is disgusting to watch them on TV making excuses for lapses saying 'this is politics and anything is possible ..
I agree that the long judicial process cannot be tampered and it has to run its course in due time. But once that is all done and the court has given its ruling, the mercy petition should not be compulsory for all. In cases where there are terrorists involved, it should not be granted at all, least of all reviewing the case again by the president. But in India, exceptions are only made if the case is directly going to affect vote bank politics!!! There are no feelings of patriotism, those come out only during the Republic Day and the Independence Day, the rest of the days are spent in counting their votes and money! :angry:
Exactly , politics is also a business now, probably the most lucrative one for most ! :dry: Honestly the way the politicians take advantage of their position is appalling ! Now until the general elections are over nothing much will be done ...and after that it is anybody's guess !
In this particular instance I won't blame any president for it,it's the spinelessness of the head of the government which has exposed to the ridicule of the world! Here again our the conduct of our ex FM and now President should raise questions. He was part of the powerful think-tank which exhibited this spinelessness! Not a single member of this think-tank staked his or her selfish interest to make it an issue to resign!! These days ministers don't resign on their own unless forced to!
Yes, its true, its more about the lack of willingness on part of the ruling government to carry out the executions as has been ordered by the court. But if that is the case, then why are those cases forwarded to the President for petitions?? Why go through all these unnecessary steps that only wastes obscene amounts of our money and creates mountains of useless paper? Once the court has given its judgement, just carry out those orders when the proper times comes!!
In case of death sentence, the culprit has constitutional right to seek mercy. Mercy petition cannot be summarily rejected. Government has no choice as this is constitutional and legal remedy available to culprit. After receiving mercy petition, the government has to follow the proper procedure viz. getting getting opinion of state government concerned and thereafter sending the petition to President of India with cabinet advice.
Once the terrorist is arrested and presented to court, there is long legal process that cannot be avoided. If the terrorist is killed in action, this would be different.
No attempt should be made to defend the indefensible! No judicial process is pending in Afjal Guru's case. The highest court of the land has pronounced the verdict holding him guilty and punishment too was pronounced. The mercy petition has been gathering dust for years for reasons known to all. It's our horrific record of compromising with crimes and criminals that has landed in our present condition. The fact remains that in most of the terrorist violence,the common people are the worst sufferers and there is a yawning disconnect between the thoughts of common masses and our great rulers.
I totally agree with those sentiments ! Indian politicians only look after their interests and nothing else matters . One wonders if they have any national feeling or patriotism left in them...It is disgusting to watch them on TV making excuses for lapses saying 'this is politics and anything is possible ..
I agree that the long judicial process cannot be tampered and it has to run its course in due time. But once that is all done and the court has given its ruling, the mercy petition should not be compulsory for all. In cases where there are terrorists involved, it should not be granted at all, least of all reviewing the case again by the president. But in India, exceptions are only made if the case is directly going to affect vote bank politics!!! There are no feelings of patriotism, those come out only during the Republic Day and the Independence Day, the rest of the days are spent in counting their votes and money! :angry:
Exactly , politics is also a business now, probably the most lucrative one for most ! :dry: Honestly the way the politicians take advantage of their position is appalling ! Now until the general elections are over nothing much will be done ...and after that it is anybody's guess !
Yes, politics is all about business now, only profits and losses are considered rather than people's well being. After some time, there will be another trivial issue that would come up to divert people's minds from crucial ones.
In this particular instance I won't blame any president for it,it's the spinelessness of the head of the government which has exposed to the ridicule of the world! Here again our the conduct of our ex FM and now President should raise questions. He was part of the powerful think-tank which exhibited this spinelessness! Not a single member of this think-tank staked his or her selfish interest to make it an issue to resign!! These days ministers don't resign on their own unless forced to!
Yes, its true, its more about the lack of willingness on part of the ruling government to carry out the executions as has been ordered by the court. But if that is the case, then why are those cases forwarded to the President for petitions?? Why go through all these unnecessary steps that only wastes obscene amounts of our money and creates mountains of useless paper? Once the court has given its judgement, just carry out those orders when the proper times comes!!
In case of death sentence, the culprit has constitutional right to seek mercy. Mercy petition cannot be summarily rejected. Government has no choice as this is constitutional and legal remedy available to culprit. After receiving mercy petition, the government has to follow the proper procedure viz. getting getting opinion of state government concerned and thereafter sending the petition to President of India with cabinet advice.
Once the terrorist is arrested and presented to court, there is long legal process that cannot be avoided. If the terrorist is killed in action, this would be different.
No attempt should be made to defend the indefensible! No judicial process is pending in Afjal Guru's case. The highest court of the land has pronounced the verdict holding him guilty and punishment too was pronounced. The mercy petition has been gathering dust for years for reasons known to all. It's our horrific record of compromising with crimes and criminals that has landed in our present condition. The fact remains that in most of the terrorist violence,the common people are the worst sufferers and there is a yawning disconnect between the thoughts of common masses and our great rulers.
I totally agree with those sentiments ! Indian politicians only look after their interests and nothing else matters . One wonders if they have any national feeling or patriotism left in them...It is disgusting to watch them on TV making excuses for lapses saying 'this is politics and anything is possible ..
I agree that the long judicial process cannot be tampered and it has to run its course in due time. But once that is all done and the court has given its ruling, the mercy petition should not be compulsory for all. In cases where there are terrorists involved, it should not be granted at all, least of all reviewing the case again by the president. But in India, exceptions are only made if the case is directly going to affect vote bank politics!!! There are no feelings of patriotism, those come out only during the Republic Day and the Independence Day, the rest of the days are spent in counting their votes and money! :angry:
Exactly , politics is also a business now, probably the most lucrative one for most ! :dry: Honestly the way the politicians take advantage of their position is appalling ! Now until the general elections are over nothing much will be done ...and after that it is anybody's guess !
Yes, politics is all about business now, only profits and losses are considered rather than people's well being. After some time, there will be another trivial issue that would come up to divert people's minds from crucial ones.
Politics is all about votes. Hence fate of people depends on their own voting skill. How do the politicians divert peoples' mind to trivial issue. This is because people are also bothered and interested in trivial issue and not in major issues. whose fault is this? Politicians or people. It is said people are masters. Okay. then servants will be what masters choose.
In this particular instance I won't blame any president for it,it's the spinelessness of the head of the government which has exposed to the ridicule of the world! Here again our the conduct of our ex FM and now President should raise questions. He was part of the powerful think-tank which exhibited this spinelessness! Not a single member of this think-tank staked his or her selfish interest to make it an issue to resign!! These days ministers don't resign on their own unless forced to!
Yes, its true, its more about the lack of willingness on part of the ruling government to carry out the executions as has been ordered by the court. But if that is the case, then why are those cases forwarded to the President for petitions?? Why go through all these unnecessary steps that only wastes obscene amounts of our money and creates mountains of useless paper? Once the court has given its judgement, just carry out those orders when the proper times comes!!
In case of death sentence, the culprit has constitutional right to seek mercy. Mercy petition cannot be summarily rejected. Government has no choice as this is constitutional and legal remedy available to culprit. After receiving mercy petition, the government has to follow the proper procedure viz. getting getting opinion of state government concerned and thereafter sending the petition to President of India with cabinet advice.
Once the terrorist is arrested and presented to court, there is long legal process that cannot be avoided. If the terrorist is killed in action, this would be different.
No attempt should be made to defend the indefensible! No judicial process is pending in Afjal Guru's case. The highest court of the land has pronounced the verdict holding him guilty and punishment too was pronounced. The mercy petition has been gathering dust for years for reasons known to all. It's our horrific record of compromising with crimes and criminals that has landed in our present condition. The fact remains that in most of the terrorist violence,the common people are the worst sufferers and there is a yawning disconnect between the thoughts of common masses and our great rulers.
I totally agree with those sentiments ! Indian politicians only look after their interests and nothing else matters . One wonders if they have any national feeling or patriotism left in them...It is disgusting to watch them on TV making excuses for lapses saying 'this is politics and anything is possible ..
I agree that the long judicial process cannot be tampered and it has to run its course in due time. But once that is all done and the court has given its ruling, the mercy petition should not be compulsory for all. In cases where there are terrorists involved, it should not be granted at all, least of all reviewing the case again by the president. But in India, exceptions are only made if the case is directly going to affect vote bank politics!!! There are no feelings of patriotism, those come out only during the Republic Day and the Independence Day, the rest of the days are spent in counting their votes and money! :angry:
Exactly , politics is also a business now, probably the most lucrative one for most ! :dry: Honestly the way the politicians take advantage of their position is appalling ! Now until the general elections are over nothing much will be done ...and after that it is anybody's guess !
Yes, politics is all about business now, only profits and losses are considered rather than people's well being. After some time, there will be another trivial issue that would come up to divert people's minds from crucial ones.
Politics is all about votes. Hence fate of people depends on their own voting skill. How do the politicians divert peoples' mind to trivial issue. This is because people are also bothered and interested in trivial issue and not in major issues. whose fault is this? Politicians or people. It is said people are masters. Okay. then servants will be what masters choose.
That definitely is something to ponder about ! It has been told that like people get like leaders and a like governance, so all have to take the blame at least to some extent !
Terrorists are such cockroaches in any country, which they should not leave. Death sentence should be given if they are caught.
LOL, cockroaches,rats whatever , they are despicable since they are so selfish and self centred and of course cruel .I dont think that they deserve any kind of mercy at all...
There is no need to show any mercy while life sentence and death sentence is sentenced to the terrorist as they always want to kill the people who are so innocent. but our Indian police are still kept that kasab in the jail and making him live happily by giving full filling all his desires
With Abu Jundal joining the group, the police are now seeking to question Kasab once again ,taking into account the new evidence provided by Jundal...
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_police-seek-permission-to-quiz-ajmal-kasab_1724822
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-07/mumbai/33082267_1_indian-technical-institute-gevrai-taluka-ajmal-kasab
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_police-seek-permission-to-quiz-ajmal-kasab_1724822
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-07/mumbai/33082267_1_indian-technical-institute-gevrai-taluka-ajmal-kasab
With Abu Jundal joining the group, the police are now seeking to question Kasab once again ,taking into account the new evidence provided by Jundal...
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_police-seek-permission-to-quiz-ajmal-kasab_1724822
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-07/mumbai/33082267_1_indian-technical-institute-gevrai-taluka-ajmal-kasab
Hmmmm..Maybe questioning him can throw some light on it all, but I seriously doubt if Kasab will open his mouth now, but only behave as he did before, trying a new drama daily!! :angry:
With Abu Jundal joining the group, the police are now seeking to question Kasab once again ,taking into account the new evidence provided by Jundal...
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_police-seek-permission-to-quiz-ajmal-kasab_1724822
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-07/mumbai/33082267_1_indian-technical-institute-gevrai-taluka-ajmal-kasab
Hmmmm..Maybe questioning him can throw some light on it all, but I seriously doubt if Kasab will open his mouth now, but only behave as he did before, trying a new drama daily!! :angry:
According the Jundal , Kasab is the smartest operator in the group, which means he has been pretending all along ..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ajmal-Kasab-smartest-operative-Abu-Jundal/articleshow/15217315.cms
The Honorable Supreme Court has upheld Kasab's death sentence. His plea has been rejected!
Terrorists should not be given so many chances to appeal and re- appeal, they should be punished as soon as their crime is proved by the first court.
I only hope that he is executed on time and not set up comfortably in jail while the President keeps his mercy petition pending for years while hundreds of thousands of our money is spent on his upkeep, like Afzal Guru!
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