Can a society grow while ignoring the matriarch?

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

In which world are you? No educated women believe in pleasing their husband, mind it pleasing sounds derogatory in this case, rather they love their family so avoid controversies which a man should respect.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

In which world are you? No educated women believe in pleasing their husband, mind it pleasing sounds derogatory in this case, rather they love their family so avoid controversies which a man should respect.

definitely its not a derogatory remark. My own wife who is a degree holder believed that " I'm her herGod".  , Several times I told her that was a wrong belief. But she goes on with her Belief.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

In which world are you? No educated women believe in pleasing their husband, mind it pleasing sounds derogatory in this case, rather they love their family so avoid controversies which a man should respect.

I feel that most Indian men have a deep rooted feeling of insecurity that makes them dominate their women and keep them virtually prisoners in their own homes, totally dependent on them for finance and everything else. I have seen men who dont let their women stir out of the house , wanting them to look after their needs and cook for them , pathetic ! They fail to realise that the more freedom they give to their wives , the more respect , contentment and love there would be within the marriage ...

I believe in giving  a woman free hand in all respects

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

In which world are you? No educated women believe in pleasing their husband, mind it pleasing sounds derogatory in this case, rather they love their family so avoid controversies which a man should respect.

definitely its not a derogatory remark. My own wife who is a degree holder believed that " I'm her herGod".  , Several times I told her that was a wrong belief. But she goes on with her Belief.

Definitely derogatory. No woman performs an item number at home to please a man. One has to be educated not just academically but by thinking too and so if someone has a wrong belief then it must be broken.

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

Shampa Sadhya wrote:

rambabu wrote:

That 's the unfortunate part of it. Women are yet to come off age. 

You threw no light why women usually opt to leave their dream. Men need to be progressive minded and not just become financially secured and status conscious as most of them are like that. 

The deep rooted belief of the women in general think, it's the primary duty of a Woman is  to please her hiubby. This belief is prevalent in educated women too.

In which world are you? No educated women believe in pleasing their husband, mind it pleasing sounds derogatory in this case, rather they love their family so avoid controversies which a man should respect.

definitely its not a derogatory remark. My own wife who is a degree holder believed that " I'm her herGod".  , Several times I told her that was a wrong belief. But she goes on with her Belief.

Definitely derogatory. No woman performs an item number at home to please a man. One has to be educated not just academically but by thinking too and so if someone has a wrong belief then it must be broken.

Well what I said was my own experience. if you don't believe, I can't do anything.

Society can grow only if both- male and female- get equal importance.  The ideal situation is that nobody should bother about gender except when in bedroom. The recent Olympic contests have clearly shown that women are not inferior even in sports like wrestling. Similar education and grooming for children irrespective of gender is must for making the society just and equitable to all- irrespective of gender. In fact, our constitution provides for equal opportunities to all irrespective of caste, creed, gender.   

Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

Society can grow only if both- male and female- get equal importance.  The ideal situation is that nobody should bother about gender except when in bedroom. The recent Olympic contests have clearly shown that women are not inferior even in sports like wrestling. Similar education and grooming for children irrespective of gender is must for making the society just and equitable to all- irrespective of gender. In fact, our constitution provides for equal opportunities to all irrespective of caste, creed, gender.  

Actually, in this thread we were basically discussing that how a mother and maternal family's influence get bypassed in our culture. It is always the father and his family gets highlighted while talking about a child. We should not ignore the impact a mother and her family make on a child. This shows our patriarch tendency and the attitude to suppress the matriarch influence. Well, the way you have explained how our society should pay equal importance to both man and woman is very impressive.    

I blame omen of our country for may of their misfortunes. In our own ancestral house, although all the ladies living there are highly educated, they are not allowed to be too independent by the elders, mainly women. Here, men less educated and less smarter are given more importance in decision making. I have argued several times but it is difficult to change the mindset. I guess in a few decades from now things will change for the better .

Yes, women are very much responsible. Interestingly, they can fight for petty things at home, they can ruin the peace of their houses for trivial incidents, and, they can blame one and all for their sufferings but always step back when there is a need to protest for the good. They never want to change the situation by fighting it out rather prefer to suffer and blame others. 

The problem with Indian women, at least the middle class population - although they are educated and enlightened to a certain extent , the society is still stuck in the ancient mode. So, they fear to go all the way when it comes to facing problems or any issues that make them come into the open, This is precisely why domestic rape cases go on with very few cases coming to light and issues like financial freedom is still a myth with most working women since the husband manages the finances in most cases. There may be some exceptions where the woman is the boss ..

Even Vedas and Puranas  professed Equal rights to men and women; But these truths are distorted and twisted  by the people in the society which is Male dominated.. A women has been treated always as the incarnation Shakti. in my own family I give due importance to my wife. Many women still believe that " Patiye Pratyksh Daivam." Husband is her living God.

Haven't you already said all these before, why post the same thing again and again simply to gain points ? 

Not at all. I said about the woman's attitude of  the Present day who still go with  the belief that  Going against her Husband is a sacrilege.

rambabu wrote:

Not at all. I said about the woman's attitude of  the Present day who still go with  the belief that  Going against her Husband is a sacrilege.

 

 

Go through the link, one entire page was devoted to the same pet theme of yours..

https://www.boddunan.com/forum/discussions/general-discussions/244072-can-a-society-grow-while-ignoring-the-matriarch.html?start=20

If my post is unused, and if here are Minus points,  for unused Post there are,then they should have been deleted. I think Moderators can do this Job.