A member in parliament wants to know this-
1-why do have so many names for our country - what is the real name?
2- Do we have a proper national anthem that has some thing to do with our country?
Let's hope we shall hear more about it soon..... your take about it please!!
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India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
But what is the name of our country, I have 'India' written on all my documents, which matter. I don't see Bharat mentioned anywhere on any papers.
Our country's name is INDIA. According to Indian constitution, country's name is - India that is Bharat. So name is India. The words 'that is Bharat' only explain what India is.
India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
But what is the name of our country, I have 'India' written on all my documents, which matter. I don't see Bharat mentioned anywhere on any papers.
Our country's name is INDIA. According to Indian constitution, country's name is - India that is Bharat. So name is India. The words 'that is Bharat' only explain what India is.
Do I have any choice but to say 'Yes sir'??
India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
Rightly stated that 'Bharat' was a king- son of Dushyanta- hero of the novel 'abhigyan shakuntalam'. So, 'Bharat' is not real king but only a character in a novel written by Kalidas.
But then, what was India's name before kalidas wrote his novel abhigyan shakuntalam.
It is said that 'arya vrata' was the name.
But India appears more apt. The name 'India' is derived from river Indus. Indus is known also as Sindhu. So name of the country could be sindhu that later changed to Hindu and later Hindustan.
This is history. Presently, we have one name and that is 'India'.
India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
Rightly stated that 'Bharat' was a king- son of Dushyanta- hero of the novel 'abhigyan shakuntalam'. So, 'Bharat' is not real king but only a character in a novel written by Kalidas.
But then, what was India's name before kalidas wrote his novel abhigyan shakuntalam.
It is said that 'arya vrata' was the name.
But India appears more apt. The name 'India' is derived from river Indus. Indus is known also as Sindhu. So name of the country could be sindhu that later changed to Hindu and later Hindustan.
This is history. Presently, we have one name and that is 'India'.
Is it so? Does it really come from Indus? I think English brought it along with East India like West Indies, Red Indians. You shall be shocked to know the meaning of an Indian according to an old English dictionary.
India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
Rightly stated that 'Bharat' was a king- son of Dushyanta- hero of the novel 'abhigyan shakuntalam'. So, 'Bharat' is not real king but only a character in a novel written by Kalidas.
But then, what was India's name before kalidas wrote his novel abhigyan shakuntalam.
It is said that 'arya vrata' was the name.
But India appears more apt. The name 'India' is derived from river Indus. Indus is known also as Sindhu. So name of the country could be sindhu that later changed to Hindu and later Hindustan.
This is history. Presently, we have one name and that is 'India'.
Is it so? Does it really come from Indus? I think English brought it along with East India like West Indies, Red Indians. You shall be shocked to know the meaning of an Indian according to an old English dictionary.
Our ancient civilization is known as 'Indus valley civilization' This was discovered from Mohan Zodaro and Harrappa. So, the name 'India' given. In Hindi, this is 'sindhu ghai ke Sabhyata'. Later, 'Sindhu' was changed to 'Hindu'. From that comes 'Hindu' the name given to ancient Indians. Thus, comes 'Hindustan' 9the Hindu land)
Possibly, the name 'India' was brought by British. Their company was also caled 'East India company'. As regards 'Red Indians' they were original residents of America. Columbus wrongly took 'America' as 'India'. He called the residents of America (India according to his faulty understanding) as Indians. Later Vasco Da gama discovered real India. The original residents of America painted themselves in red and so called 'Red Indians'.
India is multi religious country. We all have right to love our country in the way we like. Bharat was the king of country. The name "Bharat" has been given to the country after him. Mughals call our country "Hindustan" because the natives were hindus before they invade our country. Britishers call "India". Every time our country has been didvided. Bharat is no longer in origial form and shape. Our country has many names, many languages, many religion and many culture. India has always been admired as "Bharat". It is the original name of our country.
Rightly stated that 'Bharat' was a king- son of Dushyanta- hero of the novel 'abhigyan shakuntalam'. So, 'Bharat' is not real king but only a character in a novel written by Kalidas.
But then, what was India's name before kalidas wrote his novel abhigyan shakuntalam.
It is said that 'arya vrata' was the name.
But India appears more apt. The name 'India' is derived from river Indus. Indus is known also as Sindhu. So name of the country could be sindhu that later changed to Hindu and later Hindustan.
This is history. Presently, we have one name and that is 'India'.
Is it so? Does it really come from Indus? I think English brought it along with East India like West Indies, Red Indians. You shall be shocked to know the meaning of an Indian according to an old English dictionary.
Our ancient civilization is known as 'Indus valley civilization' This was discovered from Mohan Zodaro and Harrappa. So, the name 'India' given. In Hindi, this is 'sindhu ghai ke Sabhyata'. Later, 'Sindhu' was changed to 'Hindu'. From that comes 'Hindu' the name given to ancient Indians. Thus, comes 'Hindustan' 9the Hindu land)
Possibly, the name 'India' was brought by British. Their company was also caled 'East India company'. As regards 'Red Indians' they were original residents of America. Columbus wrongly took 'America' as 'India'. He called the residents of America (India according to his faulty understanding) as Indians. Later Vasco Da gama discovered real India. The original residents of America painted themselves in red and so called 'Red Indians'.
You did not ask about the meaning of 'Indian' given in a very old English dictionary? That was disclosed by Dr. Mahip Singh in Canada during a Punjabi meet, a famous writer. ..
The name INDIA was orginated by INDU the river where the civilisation origined so the actua name of our nation is INDIA and it should be.But for national anthem I don't know much of the history about JAN GAN MAN.But that's OK as it seems that it describes all the states of our nation though I don't know word to word meaning of it. :blink:
The name INDIA was orginated by INDU the river where the civilisation origined so the actua name of our nation is INDIA and it should be.But for national anthem I don't know much of the history about JAN GAN MAN.But that's OK as it seems that it describes all the states of our nation though I don't know word to word meaning of it. :blink:
I have explained about jana Gama mana also in a post above. This was sung originally in praise of King Geotge V.
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Why do we need to go for an old or disputed song as our national anthem. We can start afresh and can invite poets to write a new song, which should be acceptable to one and all.
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Why do we need to go for an old or disputed song as our national anthem. We can start afresh and can invite poets to write a new song, which should be acceptable to one and all.
I even saw some hate posts regarding our National Anthem. I think we do need a change and we have so many poets all across the country who can surely compose one in the pride of the Nation. :)
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Why do we need to go for an old or disputed song as our national anthem. We can start afresh and can invite poets to write a new song, which should be acceptable to one and all.
I even saw some hate posts regarding our National Anthem. I think we do need a change and we have so many poets all across the country who can surely compose one in the pride of the Nation. :)
Yes if we can change names of states, cities, parks, jails, universities etc, etc, etc... why not our national anthem to serve its purpose in a better way.
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Why do we need to go for an old or disputed song as our national anthem. We can start afresh and can invite poets to write a new song, which should be acceptable to one and all.
I even saw some hate posts regarding our National Anthem. I think we do need a change and we have so many poets all across the country who can surely compose one in the pride of the Nation. :)
I agree. Recently we had an anthem on Agra city. I created a thread on that. similarly, our poets throughout India may compose national anthem. The best one could be selected and poet rewarded.
Having read all the different view points shared by you all, I too feel that Bharat is in fact older than India which came about from Indus valley civilisation which was far more recent.We see Bharat or hindu desh being used in our scriptures,since Hindustan may not suit a secular country like ours , Bharat to me seems more appropriate.
I too feel that Vande Mataram is a better national or patriotic song..But some sections of the society object to it ...
Vamde Mataram is good but being Sanskritized, it is difficult to recite. The best song that comes to my mind is: Kadam kadam badhaye ja Khushi Ke Geet gaye Jaa. Yeh zindagi hai kaum ki kaum pe lutaye ja.
This was marching song of Azad Hind army led by Netaji subhash chandra Bose.
Why do we need to go for an old or disputed song as our national anthem. We can start afresh and can invite poets to write a new song, which should be acceptable to one and all.
I even saw some hate posts regarding our National Anthem. I think we do need a change and we have so many poets all across the country who can surely compose one in the pride of the Nation. :)
I agree. Recently we had an anthem on Agra city. I created a thread on that. similarly, our poets throughout India may compose national anthem. The best one could be selected and poet rewarded.
Can we do it through a PIL?
The constitution names the country as "India that is Bharat'. Thus we have two names, India and Bharat. I feel constitution should be amended to provide for only one name- Bharat.
Our national anthem is undoubtedly 'Jana Gana mana'.
Hindustan also. Isn't it?
Sir, I still don't know what's the real different between National Song and National Anthem :silly: :silly:
We call it Desheeya geetham and Desheeya gaanam..respectively.
Geetham and Gaanam, both means song :lol: :lol:
A member in parliament wants to know this-
1-why do have so many names for our country - what is the real name?
2- Do we have a proper national anthem that has some thing to do with our country?
Let's hope we shall hear more about it soon..... your take about it please!!
I think almost all countries in the world have more than 1 name, though we don't know. ;)
Let it be. We can call our country by different names. Isn't it? It will be easy for poets also while writing patriotic songs..... :S :S :woohoo: :woohoo:
The constitution names the country as "India that is Bharat'. Thus we have two names, India and Bharat. I feel constitution should be amended to provide for only one name- Bharat.
Our national anthem is undoubtedly 'Jana Gana mana'.
Hindustan also. Isn't it?
Sir, I still don't know what's the real different between National Song and National Anthem :silly: :silly:
We call it Desheeya geetham and Desheeya gaanam..respectively.
Geetham and Gaanam, both means song :lol: :lol:
So when do you stand in still position? Geetham or Gaanam?? :whistle:
The constitution names the country as "India that is Bharat'. Thus we have two names, India and Bharat. I feel constitution should be amended to provide for only one name- Bharat.
Our national anthem is undoubtedly 'Jana Gana mana'.
Hindustan also. Isn't it?
Sir, I still don't know what's the real different between National Song and National Anthem :silly: :silly:
We call it Desheeya geetham and Desheeya gaanam..respectively.
Geetham and Gaanam, both means song :lol: :lol:
So when do you stand in still position? Geetham or Gaanam?? :whistle:
Gaanam :cheer: :cheer:
That's why I put the word, 'respectively' :P :P
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