Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority in Hindu/ Sanatan religion. He says that Sai Baba worship is unhindu.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/do-not-worship-shirdi-sai-baba-says-shankaracharya/1/368207.html
Sai Baba is also believed to be of Muslim origin. But some Muslinms have asserted that they worhip only Allah and nobody else. Sai Baba issue concerns only Hindus as they only worship statues.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/allahabad/No-more-victims-Allahabad-girls-fight-their-fears/articleshow/37111312.cms?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=digest_section
However there are even self styled Gurus who get themselves worshipped. Undoubtedly, the Hindus are exploited and cheated by so many religious trusts in name of various deities and so called saints.
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Holy scripts and Sanatana dharma never differed. What Sanatana dharma taught is being reflected in Puranas.
Sanatana Dharma looks upon a person as a part and parcel of the mighty Whole, but never regards him as “the Measure of all things.” In the West, “person” is a supreme and final value, while Sanatana Dharma regards person as a part of the Whole, having the same vital essence as all other human and sub-human creatures of the universe. This cosmic view of Hinduism transcends the sectarian or group dogmas and paves a way for the coexistence of all creatures under the Vedic principle of Vasudev Kutumbhkam, meaning “The Universe is One Family.” This principle guides the humankind towards universal harmony through acceptance and tolerance.
http://sanatana-dharma.tripod.com/
The present effort by Saibaba follower esp the Trustees is for expanding their marketing base by boosting his image to attract more customers who shall bring in more revenues. The Sankaracharya is protecting his market turf so that existing customers do not go to the other camp. It is as simple as this. High philosophy has no place in this marketing war.
Religion is personal and if a person wants to fall trap into a profitable proudct venture then only he can be blamed for this,I am speechless learning so many things about the uselessness of a religion. I have nothing to say but thank all of you.
Religion is not useless. It is the most profitable product with excellent ROI all over the globe.
Religion is personal and if a person wants to fall trap into a profitable proudct venture then only he can be blamed for this,I am speechless learning so many things about the uselessness of a religion. I have nothing to say but thank all of you.
Religion is not useless. It is the most profitable product with excellent ROI all over the globe.
And the number of such persons runs into millions or billions.
Shankaracharya is not a self styled guru and not lord as sai baba follower thinks. Shankaracharya authorized to speak when laws about sanatan dharma broken. Recently puri Shankaracharya spoke devotees can not touch lord jagannatha during car festival. High court said what he speaks final on sanatan dharma.
This is correct. There are very high standards of eligibility for apointment of Shankarachary. Shankaracharya is definitely not self appointed and self styled like numerous Gurus. He has definitely right and duty to see that Sanatana Hindu Dharama is kept pure and protected from various onslaughts like imposition of fake avatars and deities like Sai Baba. Here we may be reminded of one Sai Baba of Hyderabad who claimed to be some sort of sub avatar of shirdi sai baba.
However I don't believe in any religion and do not worship any deity.
Shankaracharya is not a self styled guru and not lord as sai baba follower thinks. Shankaracharya authorized to speak when laws about sanatan dharma broken. Recently puri Shankaracharya spoke devotees can not touch lord jagannatha during car festival. High court said what he speaks final on sanatan dharma.
This is correct. There are very high standards of eligibility for apointment of Shankarachary. Shankaracharya is definitely not self appointed and self styled like numerous Gurus. He has definitely right and duty to see that Sanatana Hindu Dharama is kept pure and protected from various onslaughts like imposition of fake avatars and deities like Sai Baba. Here we may be reminded of one Sai Baba of Hyderabad who claimed to be some sort of sub avatar of shirdi sai baba.
However I don't believe in any religion and do not worship any deity.
But Sankaracharya contradicted the very core of Sanatana Dharma, which preaches tolerance and describes the universe as "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam".
Shankaracharya is not a self styled guru and not lord as sai baba follower thinks. Shankaracharya authorized to speak when laws about sanatan dharma broken. Recently puri Shankaracharya spoke devotees can not touch lord jagannatha during car festival. High court said what he speaks final on sanatan dharma.
This is correct. There are very high standards of eligibility for apointment of Shankarachary. Shankaracharya is definitely not self appointed and self styled like numerous Gurus. He has definitely right and duty to see that Sanatana Hindu Dharama is kept pure and protected from various onslaughts like imposition of fake avatars and deities like Sai Baba. Here we may be reminded of one Sai Baba of Hyderabad who claimed to be some sort of sub avatar of shirdi sai baba.
However I don't believe in any religion and do not worship any deity.
But Sankaracharya contradicted the very core of Sanatana Dharma, which preaches tolerance and describes the universe as "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam".
Shankaracharya has not shown any intolerance. He has said no insulting words and instigated no violence. Tolerance does not imply that he should not comment against the practice that is foreign to sanatana dharama, which the true sanatani should avoid.
Shankaracharya is not a self styled guru and not lord as sai baba follower thinks. Shankaracharya authorized to speak when laws about sanatan dharma broken. Recently puri Shankaracharya spoke devotees can not touch lord jagannatha during car festival. High court said what he speaks final on sanatan dharma.
This is correct. There are very high standards of eligibility for apointment of Shankarachary. Shankaracharya is definitely not self appointed and self styled like numerous Gurus. He has definitely right and duty to see that Sanatana Hindu Dharama is kept pure and protected from various onslaughts like imposition of fake avatars and deities like Sai Baba. Here we may be reminded of one Sai Baba of Hyderabad who claimed to be some sort of sub avatar of shirdi sai baba.
However I don't believe in any religion and do not worship any deity.
But Sankaracharya contradicted the very core of Sanatana Dharma, which preaches tolerance and describes the universe as "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam".
Shankaracharya has not shown any intolerance. He has said no insulting words and instigated no violence. Tolerance does not imply that he should not comment against the practice that is foreign to sanatana dharama, which the true sanatani should avoid.
Saying not to worship Saibaba because he is not god. And saying only Ram and Krishna are gods are not only shows his intolerance but also says that he's not aware of the fact Ram, one of the 10 incarnations oh god was born as a human.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his views can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
If he's an authority, he should know about the intricacies of Sanatana Dharma and Puranas. Saying Ram as god doesn't entitle him as an authority. Ram is a human.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
Theoretically, one may do any thing but religion is also a community. One may indulge in deities worship in temple, pray in church and also in mosque. But this will lead him no where and make him a joker. A Muslim cannot worship anyone except Allah. so he cannot worship any image. Similar is the case with others. One has to make a choice. Personally, my choice is that I am an atheist and worship no deity or God.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
Theoretically, one may do any thing but religion is also a community. One may indulge in deities worship in temple, pray in church and also in mosque. But this will lead him no where and make him a joker. A Muslim cannot worship anyone except Allah. so he cannot worship any image. Similar is the case with others. One has to make a choice. Personally, my choice is that I am an atheist and worship no deity or God.[/quote
Agreed. I too made a choice of not to fall in this tap. I dont go to a place of worship.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
Theoretically, one may do any thing but religion is also a community. One may indulge in deities worship in temple, pray in church and also in mosque. But this will lead him no where and make him a joker. A Muslim cannot worship anyone except Allah. so he cannot worship any image. Similar is the case with others. One has to make a choice. Personally, my choice is that I am an atheist and worship no deity or God.[/quote
Agreed. I too made a choice of not to fall in this tap. I dont go to a place of worship.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
Theoretically, one may do any thing but religion is also a community. One may indulge in deities worship in temple, pray in church and also in mosque. But this will lead him no where and make him a joker. A Muslim cannot worship anyone except Allah. so he cannot worship any image. Similar is the case with others. One has to make a choice. Personally, my choice is that I am an atheist and worship no deity or God.[/quote
Agreed. I too made a choice of not to fall in this tap. I dont go to a place of worship.
But atheists should be tolerant of others choices.Your god may be logic or reason which may not be acceptable to others. Not believing is also a form of belief.
He does not say not to worship sai baba, he says do not use word Ram with Sai baba, He sees in the eyes of scriptures whether sai followers are observing religious scriptures, Ram was born In earth to destroy Ravan, otherwise he was Lord, similar case is with Lord Krishna, but gurus like Sai and Ram Rahim baba cannnot do this he said, it is of to followers to obey or not, but he has defined it in terms of religious scriptures, Lord Ram is not man like Sai Bab, he was born in earth to destroy Ravan's evils, He was incarnation of Lord Vishnu, but how can Sai baba claim this incarnation ,where is written is all these written in ancient scripture,
I agree. If somebody does not go by Sanatana Dharama, he is free to do so. But if one is sanatani, he must not worship Sai Baba, as advised by Shankaracharya. Undoubtedly, Shankaracharya is an authority on Sanatana Dharama and his viws can not be brushed aside by sanatana dharama followers.
But if someone wants to worship both, he should have that freedom. Yes parameters can be defined. Sankaracharaya has that authority.
Theoretically, one may do any thing but religion is also a community. One may indulge in deities worship in temple, pray in church and also in mosque. But this will lead him no where and make him a joker. A Muslim cannot worship anyone except Allah. so he cannot worship any image. Similar is the case with others. One has to make a choice. Personally, my choice is that I am an atheist and worship no deity or God.[/quote
Agreed. I too made a choice of not to fall in this tap. I dont go to a place of worship.
But atheists should be tolerant of others choices.Your god may be logic or reason which may not be acceptable to others. Not believing is also a form of belief.
Why should a care for other's acceptance? As long as I do not force? I'm not a reformer. I observe the things around and speak my heart out.
Shankaracharya advices not forced, it is upto followers of sanatan dharma to obey or discard, Ram is not human, he is Lord, an incarnation of Vishnu, when some one talks and says Ram is human, it hurts many sanatan dharma followers and other believer should refrain from stating as such.
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