saffron party M.P. runs sex racket in his house.

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

If the government has no role, why al most every official function starts with ,lamp lighting and a Sanskrit sloka, which are exclusively Hindu rituals ?

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

If the government has no role, why almost every official function starts with ,lamp lighting and a Sanskrit sloka, which are exclusively Hindu rituals ?

Interference and appeasement by government of a particular religion is anti secular. Adoption of harmless ritual is not appeasement as no benefit is derived from these.

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

If the government has no role, why almost every official function starts with ,lamp lighting and a Sanskrit sloka, which are exclusively Hindu rituals ?

Interference and appeasement by government of a particular religion is anti secular. Adoption of harmless ritual is not appeasement as no benefit is derived from these.

What are the benefits and losses? And who are the beneficiaries and losers?

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

If the government has no role, why almost every official function starts with ,lamp lighting and a Sanskrit sloka, which are exclusively Hindu rituals ?

Interference and appeasement by government of a particular religion is anti secular. Adoption of harmless ritual is not appeasement as no benefit is derived from these.

What are the benefits and losses? And who are the beneficiaries and losers?

In a secular environment there are no benefits and losses thus there are no beneficiaries and losers. Most of the problems are perceived.

Sex racket by the saffron party M.P. has been unearthed. Apparently, This may not be immoral according to standards of Hindutva and ancient culture. After all, we have tradition of Menaka, Rambha, Urvashi, Amra Pali. May be the saffron M.P. was following Hindu culture in his own unique understanding. :evil: :evil:

http://www.amarujala.com/feature/crime-bureau/sex-racket-busted-at-bjp-mp-flat/

What has got to do this with Hidutwa? it's a personal offence and should be treated that way. But it's always easy to ridicule Hinduism and its traditions. try it with another religion and see the outcome. criminal of any religion is a criminal and treated at par. Thank You.

Freedom of expression even against one's own religion is a fundamental pillar of Hinduism and it has kept it going for thousands of years. If we were also to behave like other religions then what is the difference? Perhaps the subtle reference was to the fact that BJP persons blow the trumpet of Hindutava to justify their actions. it was a satirical comment .

A criminal is no Hindu, Muslim or from a particular religion. A criminal is a criminal, why should you target the whole religion if a particular person is involved in a criminal act.
Have you heard-
The person who does not have pride on his own religion, nation and language is no better than an animal.
Jise na apne dharm, rashtra or bhasha pe guman hai
Vo nar,nar nahi pashu ke saman hai.

Instigation in the name of religion is what is hinted at and not any religion. Speaking the inconvenient truth does not mean one is not proud of one's religion, nation and language. Strange logic and still stranger conclusions. By the way animals are not known to be communal.

And what is that inconvenient truth ?

The inconvenient truth is stating the facts as they are and not forcing others to one's own point of view like a bully.

Neither RSS nor BJP forced Hindutva on the people. They simply reminded us because we were lost in the craze of foreigners first, then foreign party heads. Is there anything wrong if you are reminded of your roots?

So far, RSS and the political front thereof namely BJP could not force the aggressive fascist designs s they were not capable of. But they attempted to saffronize education, include astrology in college curriculam and other actions. The recent oath in Sanskrit by some MPs also such act. The real danger may arise f the saffron block manages to get two third majority of its own in parliament and state legislatures. Already there is move for uniform personal law. AS long as the safftron block depends on secular allies and the secular are powerful in many states, they will not be able to force so called Hindutva on the nation. They will force only when they have the strength to do so.

In scoring victories such elements want to create a single culture India which goes against the plurality of our ancient culture. They are fending support among the educated also. One only hopes multi culture India does not end up as our biggest neighbor , intolerant of other faiths and all the time infighting within their faith only.

The secular forces need strongly resist the attempt to force single culture. The demand for uniform civil code is in that direction only.

There is no term as "secular force' in India. May I know which party says there should be different rules for different sects? As soon as they say they want different legislation for different sects, they are no more secular, they cease to be secular. People should have same rules to follow, the moment you divide on cast, creed or religion, you're no more a secular. We need same rules for everyone no matter what. The politics of concession has done the most damage to our country. We should delete the word "religion' from our governmental work.

Secularism is allowing citizens to follow their beliefs. Government has no role in it. Should people have one dress, one food,one hair style, one shoe style, one type of movies only--- there is no end to what anti secularists will go to. Wrong implementation does not mean the fundamentals have to be changed or discarded.

If the government has no role, why almost every official function starts with ,lamp lighting and a Sanskrit sloka, which are exclusively Hindu rituals ?

Interference and appeasement by government of a particular religion is anti secular. Adoption of harmless ritual is not appeasement as no benefit is derived from these.

What are the benefits and losses? And who are the beneficiaries and losers?

In a secular environment there are no benefits and losses thus there are no beneficiaries and losers. Most of the problems are perceived.[/quote

I'm a citizen of this country. Ever since the word "Secularism " appeared on the horizon in India, i didn't perceive anything . I don't know about others. Yes problems are not just perceived but seen how Art – 25 is openly flouted and the professing propagating of any religion is not taken cognizance of, as it should be. Art – 28 is again flouted as, in all missionary schools Christianity is taught, and in all Madrasas Islamic tenets are taught. May be some of these institutions and not State aided but, when some are doing it, all others also follow suit.
In reality, the biggest hassle created about religion in India is by the politician and the Government itself.

I Hv studied in a missionary school and college & not once was I taught Christianity but was taught moral science. Believing the contrary is perception.

Yes. I agree. In my school, moral science was taught. However, the marks were not added to total. Sometimes, when some guest preacher arrived, children would also gather in the church. But this had hardly any affect as the contents of the lecture were not understood by children. Children were never required to attend special prayers in the church. But I feel that the prayer in the daily assembly conformed to Christianity. The prayer ran- Ho pita hamare jo swarg men hai- tera raaj prithvi pad pad bhi aaye jaisa swarga men hai.' But I feel that so much does not amount to propagaing Christianity or attempt to convert. There was never insult to any religion.

Yes. I agree. In my school, moral science was taught. However, the marks were not added to total. Sometimes, when some guest preacher arrived, children would also gather in the church. But this had hardly any affect as the contents of the lecture were not understood by children. Children were never required to attend special prayers in the church. But I feel that the prayer in the daily assembly conformed to Christianity. The prayer ran- Ho pita hamare jo swarg men hai- tera raaj prithvi pad pad bhi aaye jaisa swarga men hai.' But I feel that so much does not amount to propagaing Christianity or attempt to convert. There was never insult to any religion.

With due respect- have you ever visited tribal areas? Have you ever seen far flung areas of Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, Orrisa and North east (I know you have visited some of these) But have you seen their activities, I have seen. I don't say they haven't right to spread their religion but what is wrong if Hindus want to protect their own religion? Hindus have never indulged in conversion activities but they have right to keep their own religion intact and by doing so they are branded as culprits. Isn't it ridiculous?

Yes. I agree. In my school, moral science was taught. However, the marks were not added to total. Sometimes, when some guest preacher arrived, children would also gather in the church. But this had hardly any affect as the contents of the lecture were not understood by children. Children were never required to attend special prayers in the church. But I feel that the prayer in the daily assembly conformed to Christianity. The prayer ran- Ho pita hamare jo swarg men hai- tera raaj prithvi pad pad bhi aaye jaisa swarga men hai.' But I feel that so much does not amount to propagaing Christianity or attempt to convert. There was never insult to any religion.

With due respect- have you ever visited tribal areas? Have you ever seen far flung areas of Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, Orrisa and North east (I know you have visited some of these) But have you seen their activities, I have seen. I don't say they haven't right to spread their religion but what is wrong if Hindus want to protect their own religion? Hindus have never indulged in conversion activities but they have right to keep their own religion intact and by doing so they are branded as culprits. Isn't it ridiculous?

As Hindus we are also proud of our religion and I say it is the most democratic religion. This feeling that Hindus are culprits is also wrong if they try to protect their religion. By trying to only stop other religions from preaching and also not cleansing Hinduism of its social evils we are doing injustice to it. The tribals are assumed to be automatically Hindus, but they are not helped to improve their conditions including understanding of religion. It is this absence that other religions try to exploit. Hinduism has not resorted to conversions because it is not a religion founded by an individual and thus it is not in need of supporters. It is a way of life and people of ancient India had ample resources to covet of others. On the contrary others envied our riches and came to our shores. In the process as we were fragmented into hundreds of kingdoms we got subjugated. Now we have a chance to make our religion strong. vibrant and where cast and class divisions are eliminated. Once this happens other religions will beat a retreat. For some tme we should look inward.

Yes. I agree. In my school, moral science was taught. However, the marks were not added to total. Sometimes, when some guest preacher arrived, children would also gather in the church. But this had hardly any affect as the contents of the lecture were not understood by children. Children were never required to attend special prayers in the church. But I feel that the prayer in the daily assembly conformed to Christianity. The prayer ran- Ho pita hamare jo swarg men hai- tera raaj prithvi pad pad bhi aaye jaisa swarga men hai.' But I feel that so much does not amount to propagaing Christianity or attempt to convert. There was never insult to any religion.

With due respect- have you ever visited tribal areas? Have you ever seen far flung areas of Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, Orrisa and North east (I know you have visited some of these) But have you seen their activities, I have seen. I don't say they haven't right to spread their religion but what is wrong if Hindus want to protect their own religion? Hindus have never indulged in conversion activities but they have right to keep their own religion intact and by doing so they are branded as culprits. Isn't it ridiculous?

As Hindus we are also proud of our religion and I say it is the most democratic religion. This feeling that Hindus are culprits is also wrong if they try to protect their religion. By trying to only stop other religions from preaching and also not cleansing Hinduism of its social evils we are doing injustice to it. The tribals are assumed to be automatically Hindus, but they are not helped to improve their conditions including understanding of religion. It is this absence that other religions try to exploit. Hinduism has not resorted to conversions because it is not a religion founded by an individual and thus it is not in need of supporters. It is a way of life and people of ancient India had ample resources to covet of others. On the contrary others envied our riches and came to our shores. In the process as we were fragmented into hundreds of kingdoms we got subjugated. Now we have a chance to make our religion strong. vibrant and where cast and class divisions are eliminated. Once this happens other religions will beat a retreat. For some tme we should look inward.

Hinduism without caste classification? It's a dream. Varna Vyavastha or caste system is an integral part of Hinduism. Even with this we can strengthen Hinduism without intolerance of other religions.

Yes. I agree. In my school, moral science was taught. However, the marks were not added to total. Sometimes, when some guest preacher arrived, children would also gather in the church. But this had hardly any affect as the contents of the lecture were not understood by children. Children were never required to attend special prayers in the church. But I feel that the prayer in the daily assembly conformed to Christianity. The prayer ran- Ho pita hamare jo swarg men hai- tera raaj prithvi pad pad bhi aaye jaisa swarga men hai.' But I feel that so much does not amount to propagaing Christianity or attempt to convert. There was never insult to any religion.

With due respect- have you ever visited tribal areas? Have you ever seen far flung areas of Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, Orrisa and North east (I know you have visited some of these) But have you seen their activities, I have seen. I don't say they haven't right to spread their religion but what is wrong if Hindus want to protect their own religion? Hindus have never indulged in conversion activities but they have right to keep their own religion intact and by doing so they are branded as culprits. Isn't it ridiculous?

As Hindus we are also proud of our religion and I say it is the most democratic religion. This feeling that Hindus are culprits is also wrong if they try to protect their religion. By trying to only stop other religions from preaching and also not cleansing Hinduism of its social evils we are doing injustice to it. The tribals are assumed to be automatically Hindus, but they are not helped to improve their conditions including understanding of religion. It is this absence that other religions try to exploit. Hinduism has not resorted to conversions because it is not a religion founded by an individual and thus it is not in need of supporters. It is a way of life and people of ancient India had ample resources to covet of others. On the contrary others envied our riches and came to our shores. In the process as we were fragmented into hundreds of kingdoms we got subjugated. Now we have a chance to make our religion strong. vibrant and where cast and class divisions are eliminated. Once this happens other religions will beat a retreat. For some tme we should look inward.

Hinduism without caste classification? It's a dream. Varna Vyavastha or caste system is an integral part of Hinduism. Even with this we can strengthen Hinduism without intolerance of other religions.

Till Hinduism is going to seggregate its vast numbers on caste basis then it should expect poaching by others, that will strengthen it.

Caste system in Hinduism was never a deterrent factor in keeping the country united. It's the self styled high priests of Hinduism is a deterrent factor

I think the difference between MP and UP is that all cases are reported at PS in MP but in UP police perceived to be not writing fir when such cases reach and that is why lesser number of cases, there but in reality it is not.

I think the difference between MP and UP is that all cases are reported at PS in MP but in UP police perceived to be not writing fir when such cases reach and that is why lesser number of cases, there but in reality it is not.

I agree. Truth is distorted and manipulated in such a way that the state is free from crime..

This refusal to register FIR is uniformly practiced in all States with marginal difference in absolute numbers. There seems to be a pattern developing. Cases of rapes are reported in large numbers for a specified period of time and then reports stop. Sometime back it was W Bengal, now it is UP. Is politics involved I wonder. I may be wrong but I hv a hunch I may be right also.

This refusal to register FIR is uniformly practiced in all States with marginal difference in absolute numbers. There seems to be a pattern developing. Cases of rapes are reported in large numbers for a specified period of time and then reports stop. Sometime back it was W Bengal, now it is UP. Is politics involved I wonder. I may be wrong but I hv a hunch I may be right also.

You are right. The difference is, these refusals are more in some states.less in some. In AP refusal to register FIR is practically nil. You will get an acknowledgment too from the SHO.

This refusal to register FIR is uniformly practiced in all States with marginal difference in absolute numbers. There seems to be a pattern developing. Cases of rapes are reported in large numbers for a specified period of time and then reports stop. Sometime back it was W Bengal, now it is UP. Is politics involved I wonder. I may be wrong but I hv a hunch I may be right also.

You are right. The difference is, these refusals are more in some states.less in some. In AP refusal to register FIR is practically nil. You will get an acknowledgment too from the SHO.

In U.P villages rape is part of atrocities on Dalits.

This refusal to register FIR is uniformly practiced in all States with marginal difference in absolute numbers. There seems to be a pattern developing. Cases of rapes are reported in large numbers for a specified period of time and then reports stop. Sometime back it was W Bengal, now it is UP. Is politics involved I wonder. I may be wrong but I hv a hunch I may be right also.

You are right. The difference is, these refusals are more in some states.less in some. In AP refusal to register FIR is practically nil. You will get an acknowledgment too from the SHO.

In U.P villages rape is part of atrocities on Dalits.[/quote

And most of them are unreported and they never see the light. Dalits are under constant fea of r social ostracism by the forward communities..