What should be the criteria to provide reservations in education and employment to uplift the backward people in our society?

I think Reservation is not way to uplift backward people. Reservation kota should remove for any kind of people. and provide equal opportunity to all. to uplift backward people Govt. should provide extra facility to them for study and other think.

The thing we should look up for providing reservations is not the backward caste. We should look up for annual income. If he/she is having less annual income, then no one will oppose for providing reservations. Today we are seeing so many stupid employees all over the government offices due to this fault.

As our Topic is about providing Reservation to backward people,
If already there father has got this reservation benefit there children should not get any more chance and one more thing reservation should provide only the backward class who have never got any chance and who are having less income than the average income of every Indian.

The criteria is which the back ward caste who are named as so on so.. form long back. they are economically backward so to uplift the country and its people this reservations is been introduced.

What is the Present Status?

Since last 60 years reservations are being given to some sections of our society based on their caste and class irrespective of their economical background for generations together. If this policy is scientific and good, then how many of them got uplifted, to become self supportive for their next generations. If the so called process of uplifting is still incomplete even after 60 years, then the present policy of reservations is not scientific and useless.

Facts, which cannot be ignored.

Many people from the forward castes, even if their families live in penury, are kept out of the reservation quota in higher education and government jobs. Their children in spite of economical backwardness (who earn a pittance, who carry the dead in their community to the cremation ground for livelihood, who do not eat two full meals a day) are kept out of the reservation quota regime.
Some sections of the society is kept out of the reservations, in spite of their economical backwardness, just because they belong to the so called forward castes.
On the other side many people, just with a tag of reservations to their caste are enjoying with free seats in education and easy jobs in government since generations together, in spite their families got elevated to higher status socially and to above middle class economically. Since they cannot compete with real talented people openly in the private sector, they are grouping as vote banks under some selfish politicians and demanding reservations in private sector also for them.
How long this practice should continue. Is it right to uplift a section of our society, at the cost of other genuine sections. Are we not creating other suppressing sections in our society by this process? Is it a scientific way?
The objective of reservations should be solely to uplift the socially and economically backward people up to one generation only at the government cost. Then they should carry forward and take care of their next generations independently.

My opinion and solution.

I do not think reservations in the present form fetch any good for India in the long run.
“IT IS THE WORST FORM OF INEQUALITY TO TRY TO MAKE UNEQUAL THINGS EQUAL”.
It is against the natural law and is not wise to make unequal things equal.
In India (But no where in the world) since last 60 years reservations were implemented for some groups of people based on social backwardness (Not scientifically proved and valid but politically motivated) in the field of education, employment, promotions and in politics etc. This is creating an atmosphere where many un-eligible or unequal candidates grab the opportunities, and the intelligentsia gets depressed due to minimum opportunities for them, migrate to other countries and prove their talents and give best service to foreign countries and not to their nation or countrymen.
This situation can be corrected by providing free education; hostel and boarding facilities, talent and skills development programs etc by the government and NGO’s to all poor & economically backward people irrespective of their caste & religion, so that we can make their skills and intelligences improve and equally compete with all to grab the opportunities in an open ground.
In a big country like India where the natural resources are in abundant, providing equal opportunities and employment to all is not at all an impossible task, if a strong political will exist to plan and utilize them at maximum level in all possible ways. The people are ready to do hard work, providing the opportunities are open and available to them, which is not their up to the requirement at present, hence many become lazy and remain poor, depend on government for generations together. Apart from the lack of political will, vote banks and corruption are the other evils which are playing their worst role in this matter.
Hope the present and coming generations will correct this and move forward in a right direction.

Sridhar Kesireddy

Reservations were introduced in the earlier days for the uplift of backward society people, as there was caste discrimination at a high rate before the independence and still continues in a small rate.

So,after independence when the new government was built and they were trying to develop our nation.At that time the resources available for backward caste people was very less and they were struggling to come to the top of the society.They remained undeveloped.

For their development,reservation in education and employment were introduced.Now we can see many backward caste people living in a good condition and thats only because of this.

Now the question arise is , we have passed 50 years of indipendence ?

still we need reservation ?

caste discrimination is very less now and almost are getting good opportunities.

What is happening now is the misuse of this reservation.qualified people are getting very less rewards.

So,its the time to review the criteria for giving reservation.Otherwise qualified people will loose their chance and the quality of whole system will come down.

Considering caste as a main criteria for reservation should be changed.
Main criteria should be the standard of living / annual income etc. But it should be monitored efficiently.

There is no need to stop reservation...
But we have to efficiently imply..
Its time to review the criterias.. !!

i suggest in reservations in education and employment all people is equal, then merit peoples are saved

Why shouldn't we have the reservations for the people who are economically backward instead of caste?

ya.. that is a good criteria to be looked in the present situation..

caste as a criteria for reservation will not be efficient in the present social condition..

In continuous with my earlier discussion above……….

As Maverick and others told above, considering economic backwardness alone for providing reservations to uplift the downtrodden people irrespective of their caste, religion etc is the best policy. But I don’t think it will be so easy to abolish caste/religion based reservations and respective vote bank politics. They both are deeply interlinked.

Alternatively, a new policy needs to be adopted, restricting the present reservations based on caste and religion, only to those who are economically backward in their respective reserved category.

Additionally around 10% reservations should be provided to the economically backward people from among the forward castes, those who are not getting any support from the government at present.

Politicians and corruption should be kept away from implementing this program. An independent constitutional body should take the responsibility, to decide the status of economical backwardness of various groups, review and revive it periodically.
Any one who enjoy the benefits of such reservations by declaring false information and producing corrupt certificates should get severe punishment and their un-declared or binami assets must be attached to the government.

This is the proper and perfect way of providing reservations to the real needy people. Over a period it may fetch us effective results which we could not achieve in the last 60 years.

Sridhar Kesireddy

Hello Friends,

The definition of backward class is quite ambiguous. If you check the list of backward classes as specified by the government, then you will find that all the village heads, landlords and hardcore criminals also are included in it. The real poor and backward masses are just insignificant.

- Harish Jharia

The creamy layer of the rural India has intruded in the list of backward classes and are taking all sorts of benefits that should have been extended and reserved for the real poor and downtrodden masses of villages.

- Harish Jharia

There were two categories of scheduled cast and scheduled tribe and they were acceptable to the general population of India. We all might have seen that people belonging to these two categories have to go through social discrimination on having exposed as belonging to the reserved categories. They even are ill-treated during counseling for admissions in colleges and during interviews for jobs. Students belonging to these two categories are subjected to worse type of ragging as compares to the students belonging to general categories.

- Harish Jharia

There was no need for introducing new categories like BCs and OBCs when there were already two categories scheduled for reservations. These backward casts could have been adjusted in the two categories SCs and STs. There should not be disparities between SCs / STs and BCs and OBCs. If the government and the indian societies are practicing social discrimination between Higher class reserved categories BCs and OBCsand the lower class reserved categories SCs / STs that would mean that the governance itself is encouraging social discrimination based on casts.

- Harish Jharia

@ Harish Jharia

Yes Harish, you are right. All this fuss is just because of giving reservations based on caste and government officially dividing the people accordingly.

But, is it possible now to totally remove caste tag to the reservations and other welfare schemes and implement them purely on the basis of economic backwardness.
Do you think the present beneficiaries among the people and their respecting vote bank politicians will allow it without any blood shed.

Keeping this in mind, I have suggested an alternative and additional formula above. Kindly give your opinion on this. Over a period this can be reviewed and revived to remove caste tag permanently but slowly in a phased manner.

Sridhar Kesireddy

I do not say that there should not be reservations for backward people.
My objection is that the village heads and zamindars / landlords also are included in backward classes.

- Harish Jharia

By getting reservations as backwards these people enter politics against reserved seats in the constituencies. Even criminals from rural India become MPs and MLAs and ministers via the green channel of backward class tag.

- Harish Jharia

But, on considering income as the sole criteria for the accomplishment of reservation,there arise several problems.
Corruption is a curse of our nation.There are lot more chances to come up with fake documents or corrupted one to gain reservation.

We need a transparent system for the monitoring the income while considering the reservations.

And considering caste alone for reservation is not at all a good criteria.

But in certain areas , reservation are based on people from agricultural field,family of a dead militarian,handicapped etc. which are a good reservation criteria upto some extend.
Reservation percentage should be limited for such cases.

@ Jobin.....

Where there is will, there is a way.

But, I don't think our corrupt, selfish and vote bank politicians will agree to change the current situation. They are the maximum beneficiaries now.

We, the like minded people should unite and force them to act appropriately in the interest of our nation and future generations.

As I suggested in my previous poll, under the alternative and additional formula, there should be an independent constitutional body to manage, monitor, review and revive the reservation policies, by keeping the active politicians away from it.

Sridhar Kesireddy

First of all we need to understand who requires reservation and this is a hot topic which has been for many years.

There was a huge cry and anger burst out when the mandal commission came out with its report and there was lot of violence.

Now when we look at the reservation policy every one in the Backward class are entitled for reservation and they are taking advantage of it and really those who do not have reservation and are meritorious are not getting seats.

Let me quote you an example of this. One of my friend got almost 20000 rank in the EAMCET exam and has reservation and got a seat into BTech Computer Science and he is from a well to do family and another friend who do not have reservation got a rank below 1000 and did not get the seat.

The policy is to uplift the backward caste people but the implementation and rules are mostly partial and since it is derived out of political means it will always satisfy some sections of the people.

There are many people who are well to do and some how obtain a income certificate from the Revenue office by paying bribe and submit in the college and take scholarship. I personally feel that reservations should be there to uplift the backward section of the nation but there should be some sealing on the reservation. Only the first generation or till two the reservations should be there.