Hi All,
I am back with another round of Group Discussion Contest. The topic for this round is
"What changes needed in our education system to create future leaders?"
We have a lot of high profile colleges in India which are listed in top colleges in the world, however we are far behind many countries. We have huge number of students graduating every year, but are not able to be part of many innovations which we are seeing every day coming from other countries. What changes do you propose in our education system to change this scenario.
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I think the drawbacks of our education system was realised by our leaders two decades ago.That is why the "National Policy of Education" was formulated by Mr.Rajiv Gandhi.Based on it many programmes like "Operation Black board" came in.
Then it was followed by "District Primary Education Programme (DPEP)" which enriched the infra structure of primary schools where the future Indian citizens bloom in.
The successor of DPEP was SSA which focussed more on child.So we could see better results also.Today's primary student will question if he sees something against rule.
Then it was followed by "District Primary Education Programme (DPEP)" which enriched the infra structure of primary schools where the future Indian citizens bloom in.
The successor of DPEP was SSA which focussed more on child.So we could see better results also.Today's primary student will question if he sees something against rule.
MC,
I also recently read about the mock parliment in a school.In my school days I studied it in text book and even the teachers were very difficult to describe it.
Now the SSA students shows the real system and all those view it will imprint it in their mind.Really this was adopted from Gurukula system of education.
Due to the improvement and development of students government had decided to extend SSA into higher secondary level also.The new education program will be on that way and surely in a few years we will have good leaders.
I also recently read about the mock parliment in a school.In my school days I studied it in text book and even the teachers were very difficult to describe it.
Now the SSA students shows the real system and all those view it will imprint it in their mind.Really this was adopted from Gurukula system of education.
Due to the improvement and development of students government had decided to extend SSA into higher secondary level also.The new education program will be on that way and surely in a few years we will have good leaders.
Lohit,
I don't think the caste system had made problem on education. Earlier only higher casts were allowed to get education. Those who got education tried to exploit others.Naturally to uplift those put on back seat then, need to be raised.For this the best method is reservation to those casts.Else only the creamlayer of society will get best education and others will remain as supressed.
In my opinion the present problem is due to the free and compulsory education.Being free it has less quality.Also being getting free people has no value.Education should have its own quality especially when it reaches higher levels.Simple mugging up of text books and testing it by an exam and then awarding a degree system must be discarded.Instead continuous evaluation even after getting degree is to be imposed.
I don't think the caste system had made problem on education. Earlier only higher casts were allowed to get education. Those who got education tried to exploit others.Naturally to uplift those put on back seat then, need to be raised.For this the best method is reservation to those casts.Else only the creamlayer of society will get best education and others will remain as supressed.
In my opinion the present problem is due to the free and compulsory education.Being free it has less quality.Also being getting free people has no value.Education should have its own quality especially when it reaches higher levels.Simple mugging up of text books and testing it by an exam and then awarding a degree system must be discarded.Instead continuous evaluation even after getting degree is to be imposed.
@ jobin
Yes jobin i am agree with your suggestions. Our education system is more considered as more business rather than as education. In large cities some schools are taking so much fees but they are giving students a very talented environment. But in small cities it is more business than a education. Fees is more but no education. teacher's have no so much knowledge and students didn't get good innovating environment.
Yes jobin i am agree with your suggestions. Our education system is more considered as more business rather than as education. In large cities some schools are taking so much fees but they are giving students a very talented environment. But in small cities it is more business than a education. Fees is more but no education. teacher's have no so much knowledge and students didn't get good innovating environment.
@Lohit
I totally disagree with your view, that all Hindi medium schools must be made to English medium.We can never have great leaders by that.
I believe one of the very basic problem with our education is the more importance given to English education.You must never forget that this English education was introduced in India for the interest of British.The British wanted the Indians to be their puppets and they knew that only with the change in education its possible.I remember what i studied in my history class about a British policy made by Lord Macaulay.which say “A class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste,morals,opinion and intellect".Such people who follow western culture and followed the attitudes influenced by the colonisers where called Macaulay’s children..i would call them British puppets.
So British used the English education to break our national integrity, our sense of nationality.They did everything to give importance to English education.At that times those who had the knowledge in Sanskrit and other languages where denied good jobs and English speaking people where given high job.Naturally people turned into English.This policy really changed our India in every aspect.So how do you expect to have great leader for India, who are born and brought up in English education?
Now lets come to a practical analysis.If you take other countries like China and Japan, how much importance do they give for English education????There nobody know proper English.Even their keyboards are made in the mother tongue!.And all the computer programs are also in mother tongue.These are also great countries with great leaders and do they use English??Every where they go they have a translator!!.So how can you say that English is the need?.Of course there are people in those country who are trying to learn English for getting certain jobs.But altogether they are so proud of their mother-tongue and because of that itself they have a strong sense of nationality and national commitment.
So i truly believe if we make everything in English we wont have leaders with committment to the nation.They will always have an attraction to the west and i dont believe such people can be proud of their nation.If we are not proud of our language and if we dont use our language, leave alone leaders, but every citizen is still in a virtual slavery.
I totally disagree with your view, that all Hindi medium schools must be made to English medium.We can never have great leaders by that.
I believe one of the very basic problem with our education is the more importance given to English education.You must never forget that this English education was introduced in India for the interest of British.The British wanted the Indians to be their puppets and they knew that only with the change in education its possible.I remember what i studied in my history class about a British policy made by Lord Macaulay.which say “A class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste,morals,opinion and intellect".Such people who follow western culture and followed the attitudes influenced by the colonisers where called Macaulay’s children..i would call them British puppets.
So British used the English education to break our national integrity, our sense of nationality.They did everything to give importance to English education.At that times those who had the knowledge in Sanskrit and other languages where denied good jobs and English speaking people where given high job.Naturally people turned into English.This policy really changed our India in every aspect.So how do you expect to have great leader for India, who are born and brought up in English education?
Now lets come to a practical analysis.If you take other countries like China and Japan, how much importance do they give for English education????There nobody know proper English.Even their keyboards are made in the mother tongue!.And all the computer programs are also in mother tongue.These are also great countries with great leaders and do they use English??Every where they go they have a translator!!.So how can you say that English is the need?.Of course there are people in those country who are trying to learn English for getting certain jobs.But altogether they are so proud of their mother-tongue and because of that itself they have a strong sense of nationality and national commitment.
So i truly believe if we make everything in English we wont have leaders with committment to the nation.They will always have an attraction to the west and i dont believe such people can be proud of their nation.If we are not proud of our language and if we dont use our language, leave alone leaders, but every citizen is still in a virtual slavery.
Lohit,
I also disagree with you.Actually your thought is nothing but the remaining of Macaulay's Minuts of 1835.As MC told he westernised Indian Education.
His aim was to create a society which is Indian in blood and colour but English in thoughts and desires.He gave importance to the education of top level of the society and put forward the download filtration theory.
When Indians recognised the conspiracy behind Macaulay's Minuts they urged for new education commission and there came Wood's Despatch in 1854.This reflected many modern trends of education.A new educational policy also was formulated based on Wood's Despatch on all India level.This doesn't insisted English education.
As you told if all local medium schools are converted into English medium our culture itself will change.The cultural invasion is a great danger.We have to stick with our own culture and traditions.
I also disagree with you.Actually your thought is nothing but the remaining of Macaulay's Minuts of 1835.As MC told he westernised Indian Education.
His aim was to create a society which is Indian in blood and colour but English in thoughts and desires.He gave importance to the education of top level of the society and put forward the download filtration theory.
When Indians recognised the conspiracy behind Macaulay's Minuts they urged for new education commission and there came Wood's Despatch in 1854.This reflected many modern trends of education.A new educational policy also was formulated based on Wood's Despatch on all India level.This doesn't insisted English education.
As you told if all local medium schools are converted into English medium our culture itself will change.The cultural invasion is a great danger.We have to stick with our own culture and traditions.
You might have witnessed the situation in Beijing when last Olympics took place there.They required English speakers to know the needs of their guests, the athlets of different countries.
Actually the venue of Olympics was decided years ago.Still they didn't train the volunteers long ago itself.Why?That is their intelligence.If trained so these people may lose their traditional customs and behaviours.That is cultural invasion.It should not be allowed.So they just trained only what required and that itself in last moments.
Our language have its own specialities.Don't replace it with a foreign one unless essential.
Actually the venue of Olympics was decided years ago.Still they didn't train the volunteers long ago itself.Why?That is their intelligence.If trained so these people may lose their traditional customs and behaviours.That is cultural invasion.It should not be allowed.So they just trained only what required and that itself in last moments.
Our language have its own specialities.Don't replace it with a foreign one unless essential.
Lets talk about loopholes in our education system...One of the biggest drawbacks is Reservation of seats for the backward classes.
Agreed, that its a good thing but first we should ask ourself how many of the backward people really need it.
A student who scores 60% is preferred over a student who scores 80%.
This is not quality education. Giving financial aid to the backward classes is absolutely correct but reserving seats for them is injustice to a general student.
Instead of bridging the gap, we are expanding it even further by giving them quota.
In each and every field we have got a separate quota for backward classes.
Even the IITs, which were established by Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru and Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar with a vision of giving quality education to those who deserved it which would be from reservations, has been engulfed by quota. There is nearly 50% reservation in all fields.
Some people falling under the backward category who go on to become Doctors and engineers and earn more than 40000-80000 per month, make their son to apply under the backward category.The NON-CREAMY layer certificate which is required to become eligible for the quota, can be easily made by giving just few hundred rupees.
This is not quality education.
It has been spoiling our education since past and will continue to do so unless necessary steps are taken.
Agreed, that its a good thing but first we should ask ourself how many of the backward people really need it.
A student who scores 60% is preferred over a student who scores 80%.
This is not quality education. Giving financial aid to the backward classes is absolutely correct but reserving seats for them is injustice to a general student.
Instead of bridging the gap, we are expanding it even further by giving them quota.
In each and every field we have got a separate quota for backward classes.
Even the IITs, which were established by Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru and Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar with a vision of giving quality education to those who deserved it which would be from reservations, has been engulfed by quota. There is nearly 50% reservation in all fields.
Some people falling under the backward category who go on to become Doctors and engineers and earn more than 40000-80000 per month, make their son to apply under the backward category.The NON-CREAMY layer certificate which is required to become eligible for the quota, can be easily made by giving just few hundred rupees.
This is not quality education.
It has been spoiling our education since past and will continue to do so unless necessary steps are taken.
@ Abid Areacode
I disagree with you. China is a communalist nation. Ours is a democratic.
Every Indian must know atleast three languages:
* English- Because it is a globally accepted language and in the international market, which is growing more and more competetive it would be a shame if one failed to grow his business due to lack of speaking skills.
* Hindi- Because it is our National Language. We must respect it.
* The regional Language- Whichever state we may be in, we must know its language to show our respect towards its cultures and heritage.
I disagree with you. China is a communalist nation. Ours is a democratic.
Every Indian must know atleast three languages:
* English- Because it is a globally accepted language and in the international market, which is growing more and more competetive it would be a shame if one failed to grow his business due to lack of speaking skills.
* Hindi- Because it is our National Language. We must respect it.
* The regional Language- Whichever state we may be in, we must know its language to show our respect towards its cultures and heritage.
Michael wrote:
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Some people falling under the backward category who go on to become Doctors and engineers and earn more than 40000-80000 per month, make their son to apply under the backward category.The NON-CREAMY layer certificate which is required to become eligible for the quota, can be easily made by giving just few hundred rupees.
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It is a matter of our corrupted system.Reservation was introduced for upliftment of the backward classes.It is a social justice for the injustice done to them in past years.
If that is the problem why don't the non reserved category emerge as good leaders?Here the problem is our educational content indeed.
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Some people falling under the backward category who go on to become Doctors and engineers and earn more than 40000-80000 per month, make their son to apply under the backward category.The NON-CREAMY layer certificate which is required to become eligible for the quota, can be easily made by giving just few hundred rupees.
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It is a matter of our corrupted system.Reservation was introduced for upliftment of the backward classes.It is a social justice for the injustice done to them in past years.
If that is the problem why don't the non reserved category emerge as good leaders?Here the problem is our educational content indeed.
Michael,
I had opposed the change of all Hindi medium to English medium.We must study our national language and English.But over emphasis to English is not good.
One can't say our present leaders had emerged due to the English education they got.Mr.Vajpay had spoke in UN Assembly in Hindi.Was it not knowing English ?Our nation's culture and custom should be given priority wherever possible.
I had opposed the change of all Hindi medium to English medium.We must study our national language and English.But over emphasis to English is not good.
One can't say our present leaders had emerged due to the English education they got.Mr.Vajpay had spoke in UN Assembly in Hindi.Was it not knowing English ?Our nation's culture and custom should be given priority wherever possible.
Lohit and Michael,
When we focus on our GD topic which is about creating good leaders for the future, i dont think reservation in educational institution is a hindrance for that.Its because reservation comes in higher education like professional colleges, and to shape a better leader for the future we have to change or modify our basic educational system.I agree that when we consider the quality of education as a whole, it will be effected by giving reservation and deserving people may not be able to make it.But thats all about a particular field or profession and has got nothing to do with a future leader.I believe in order to shape a good leader our basic or primary education system has to be improved.As Lohit said, our entire curriculum must emphasis on practical knowledge.Children must be given enough opportunities to lead and learn to deal with a group, and thus improve their leadership quality.The total focus must be on basic education and if ever a political school is coming,as Abid said, lets hope no reservation is kept on that!
When we focus on our GD topic which is about creating good leaders for the future, i dont think reservation in educational institution is a hindrance for that.Its because reservation comes in higher education like professional colleges, and to shape a better leader for the future we have to change or modify our basic educational system.I agree that when we consider the quality of education as a whole, it will be effected by giving reservation and deserving people may not be able to make it.But thats all about a particular field or profession and has got nothing to do with a future leader.I believe in order to shape a good leader our basic or primary education system has to be improved.As Lohit said, our entire curriculum must emphasis on practical knowledge.Children must be given enough opportunities to lead and learn to deal with a group, and thus improve their leadership quality.The total focus must be on basic education and if ever a political school is coming,as Abid said, lets hope no reservation is kept on that!
@Abid,
I agree that reservation is necessary for the upliftment of backward class.But in my opinion there should be a time limit.A solid study has to be conducted in this regard and according to that reservation policy must be revised.There must be a deadline for the quota and reservation to end and thus equality and quality in education is ensured.As Michael said, at least the quota must be removed if also the financial aid is continued.But unfortunately now this entire issue is politics.
I agree that reservation is necessary for the upliftment of backward class.But in my opinion there should be a time limit.A solid study has to be conducted in this regard and according to that reservation policy must be revised.There must be a deadline for the quota and reservation to end and thus equality and quality in education is ensured.As Michael said, at least the quota must be removed if also the financial aid is continued.But unfortunately now this entire issue is politics.
MC,
I'm not saying that SSA is a total failure. But it has some limitations. Seminars, projects etc are good. But don't make it a burden to students or just don't make it so simple that students will just copy something. It should be helpful to improve the knowledge and talents of students...
Education should be in such a way that it helps in overall development of the student..
But not only as a good student..
But also..
A good citizen..
A good human.....
I'm not saying that SSA is a total failure. But it has some limitations. Seminars, projects etc are good. But don't make it a burden to students or just don't make it so simple that students will just copy something. It should be helpful to improve the knowledge and talents of students...
Education should be in such a way that it helps in overall development of the student..
But not only as a good student..
But also..
A good citizen..
A good human.....
@ Cool boy...
Its a nice suggestion that adding some political topics to syllabus will help students to know their responsibility towards the nation and the society...
But the problem is that..
Its highly Sensitive..
If it is not properly handled, it will become controversies..
When we say about political views in text books.. May the ruling party will try to include their political view supporting their party, then the opposition will protest and it will become a problem..
So, it should be handled carefully...
There should not be any political interruption in preparing it and it should not be in favouring of any parties or their ideologies...
Its a nice suggestion that adding some political topics to syllabus will help students to know their responsibility towards the nation and the society...
But the problem is that..
Its highly Sensitive..
If it is not properly handled, it will become controversies..
When we say about political views in text books.. May the ruling party will try to include their political view supporting their party, then the opposition will protest and it will become a problem..
So, it should be handled carefully...
There should not be any political interruption in preparing it and it should not be in favouring of any parties or their ideologies...
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