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"Is Google Earth really helpful in finding out sites or location of terrorists?"
Topic suggested by sajeetharan
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Google Earth is a very excellent tool which is very much available for common man to find out the earthy locations.
ADVANTAGES:
1. One can know the actual locations on the earth.
2. Can locate hotels, restaurants, buildings, roads and areas.
3. Can find out the distances and the approaching roads.
But as for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, this wonderful tool has been misused by many of the social evils. But to the knowledge I have, all the present locations and deeds going on is not being accessed/available for the common man. These tools are available for Government use and only for some important journalists. But I do not think that this would be very much useful for them.
ADVANTAGES:
1. One can know the actual locations on the earth.
2. Can locate hotels, restaurants, buildings, roads and areas.
3. Can find out the distances and the approaching roads.
But as for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, this wonderful tool has been misused by many of the social evils. But to the knowledge I have, all the present locations and deeds going on is not being accessed/available for the common man. These tools are available for Government use and only for some important journalists. But I do not think that this would be very much useful for them.
Google earth no doubt is a wonderful software that is helpful to locate addresses and locations within no time. Also it has negated the use of cumbersome and diffcult-to-read maps. In this regards, it definitely gets a thumbs-up!!
In the recent times ie, in 2006, much concern has been caused over the sighting of a large topographical replica in a remote region of China. This model is a small-scale (1/500) version of the Karakoram Mountain Ranges, currently under the control of China but claimed by India. This was later confirmed as a replica of the Karakoram ranges, gibving rise to serious military implications. The Karakoram ranges is of extremically strategic importance from the defence point of view. Google eath has played a beneficial role here since now the Indian govt knows that the Chinese could be planning some sort of maneuvers in these ranges, hence keeping us alerted!
But like all the invention created to help, this feature too is being misused by organizations who are out to destruct!! Like it happened in the case of Mumbai 26/11/08 attacks, Ajmal Kasab has admitted to using Google Earth to familiarise themselves with the locations of buildings used in the attacks.
The crucial factor here is not to completely do away with Google earth but to restrict access in some way and to downplay or remove the images of strategic military and research installations.
In the recent times ie, in 2006, much concern has been caused over the sighting of a large topographical replica in a remote region of China. This model is a small-scale (1/500) version of the Karakoram Mountain Ranges, currently under the control of China but claimed by India. This was later confirmed as a replica of the Karakoram ranges, gibving rise to serious military implications. The Karakoram ranges is of extremically strategic importance from the defence point of view. Google eath has played a beneficial role here since now the Indian govt knows that the Chinese could be planning some sort of maneuvers in these ranges, hence keeping us alerted!
But like all the invention created to help, this feature too is being misused by organizations who are out to destruct!! Like it happened in the case of Mumbai 26/11/08 attacks, Ajmal Kasab has admitted to using Google Earth to familiarise themselves with the locations of buildings used in the attacks.
The crucial factor here is not to completely do away with Google earth but to restrict access in some way and to downplay or remove the images of strategic military and research installations.
Let me start my contribution to this GD with this post,
well really i saw this topic on some forums, and posted as suggestion finally karthick taken as this week's discussion.
It is actually a good Gd topic but i think those who have technicaly strong would able to participate, unless they are not aware of this , it would be difficult.
My point is
No google earth can't be using for detecting terrorists.terrorists now a days are far smart than that
americans have used more sophisticated technology in afghanistan.still they are gettin kicked may be used for spying.but terrorists camps are too difficult to recognise.they also get the information somehow 'somebody is watching them'
and anyways some nations millitaries are havin far better satelite images compared to Google earth..millitaries highly use these kind of things.
And army does not use google earth , they need real time data.terrorists can change their hide outs any time.so depending on pictures is not worthy for army, but army cann't shift its installations,terrorists have a plus over here i guess.
well really i saw this topic on some forums, and posted as suggestion finally karthick taken as this week's discussion.
It is actually a good Gd topic but i think those who have technicaly strong would able to participate, unless they are not aware of this , it would be difficult.
My point is
No google earth can't be using for detecting terrorists.terrorists now a days are far smart than that
americans have used more sophisticated technology in afghanistan.still they are gettin kicked may be used for spying.but terrorists camps are too difficult to recognise.they also get the information somehow 'somebody is watching them'
and anyways some nations millitaries are havin far better satelite images compared to Google earth..millitaries highly use these kind of things.
And army does not use google earth , they need real time data.terrorists can change their hide outs any time.so depending on pictures is not worthy for army, but army cann't shift its installations,terrorists have a plus over here i guess.
@Sajeetharan, what are you are saying is probably true but its not complete truth!!
The American Army is as hig-tech as any army can get!! The reason the Talibanis and other terrorists are so high-tech is due to the fact that it was the Americans who taught created and taught the Talibanis to use them against Afghanistan! The main reason that US forces are unsuccessful in the Afghanistan is because the terrorists and Talibanis have full support of the Pakistani Army. The Pakistani Army while pledging to fight terrorism is funding and supporting the terrorrists in the background to gain an upper hand against India! It is NOT the failing of Google earth! Google earth will display locations correctly but because of support and inside information fronm the PA, they are able to quickly move and thus elude the Army!
The American Army is as hig-tech as any army can get!! The reason the Talibanis and other terrorists are so high-tech is due to the fact that it was the Americans who taught created and taught the Talibanis to use them against Afghanistan! The main reason that US forces are unsuccessful in the Afghanistan is because the terrorists and Talibanis have full support of the Pakistani Army. The Pakistani Army while pledging to fight terrorism is funding and supporting the terrorrists in the background to gain an upper hand against India! It is NOT the failing of Google earth! Google earth will display locations correctly but because of support and inside information fronm the PA, they are able to quickly move and thus elude the Army!
The discussion seems to have stopped here completely!!!
All everyone is now interested in is the various games!! We need to understand that in order to get traffic, more so international traffic, we need to have some serious discussions with internatiuon imapct and relevance!!!
Come on people, wake up!!! Abid, why are you silent this time???
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All everyone is now interested in is the various games!! We need to understand that in order to get traffic, more so international traffic, we need to have some serious discussions with internatiuon imapct and relevance!!!
Come on people, wake up!!! Abid, why are you silent this time???
:( :( :( :dry: :S :blink: :huh: :unsure:
A very advantageous use an application such as Google maps is that EPA ie, Environment Protection Agency is using the Google Earth to access data related to the enormous Deepwater Horizon oil spill!!
While it is not the solution to stop the oil well from gushing into the Gulf, but its a way to keep up with the efoorts to at least stop it and restore the Gulf Coast!!
While it is not the solution to stop the oil well from gushing into the Gulf, but its a way to keep up with the efoorts to at least stop it and restore the Gulf Coast!!
TO Begin with ,
"Every coin has two side" so do Google earth,
My friend Kalyani as pointed out the positive side of it,by stating example of China...but i want to remind that this is negative side from China point of view,as their all strategies are reveal due to this google earth.
Ex-President APJ Abdul Kalam's had already express concern over the security of a country due to this Google earth.Even Indian ISRO had the same concern.
The Thing is Google earth is available to public domain make it a great thread to the all country...
Terrorist could see the Military Establishment and can plan eventually to destroy it....it has happen when Hamas and the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have reportedly used Google Earth to plan Qassam rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza.
Some country had even Banned Google earth due to security reason
But Google has less brighter side than darker.
Brighter side is that country can kept watch over is neighbour.
But darker side is that terrorist can used this to demolish military Establishment,and terrorist hide in a mangrovesand thick forest.... so statellites will not be able to take snap and they changes their position every week...and google maps are doane months before..so no used to military.
According to me, Google should give permission to top government military officer only to used this application..
"Every coin has two side" so do Google earth,
My friend Kalyani as pointed out the positive side of it,by stating example of China...but i want to remind that this is negative side from China point of view,as their all strategies are reveal due to this google earth.
Ex-President APJ Abdul Kalam's had already express concern over the security of a country due to this Google earth.Even Indian ISRO had the same concern.
The Thing is Google earth is available to public domain make it a great thread to the all country...
Terrorist could see the Military Establishment and can plan eventually to destroy it....it has happen when Hamas and the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have reportedly used Google Earth to plan Qassam rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza.
Some country had even Banned Google earth due to security reason
But Google has less brighter side than darker.
Brighter side is that country can kept watch over is neighbour.
But darker side is that terrorist can used this to demolish military Establishment,and terrorist hide in a mangrovesand thick forest.... so statellites will not be able to take snap and they changes their position every week...and google maps are doane months before..so no used to military.
According to me, Google should give permission to top government military officer only to used this application..
@Both kalyani and vijay
the topic is about whether google earth is used to locate terrorists and not whether is has been used by terrorists.
and friend vijay, You are describing about defects of using google earth, according to the topic it must be an advantage,
let me start my discussion
google earth can also be termed as a satellite software. it has even beaten the concept of going around the world in $80, coz with this software it's across the globe in just one click.
and to avail this software, again all you need is just one click.
As Vijay,kalyani and deepti said it has both advantages and disadvantages,
The terrorists use such easily accessible, updated maps to plan their entry route, escape routes, etc etc. Why, even farmers in the US us Google Earth for their reporting and planning.
terrorism existed before google earth was invented but now they are using or may use the latest technology including google earth to plan more precise and bloody attacks...
it's not just Google Earth though. the kind of technology that people have in their hands now is incredible and there's much to room for misuse... a phone with a gps running google earth / nokia maps can mark you very accurately on a map. a camera with a gps locator adding your location to the photo when you're taking one can also be misused.
lets talk relevant to the topic,
Google earth can be used to track terrorists location by using their numbers.It can be called hacking but if someone installs google map onto his phone(symbian or windows mobile) And log in using his google id from phone via gprs then we can know his location gmap tracks the network tower of the owner and shows the location even if he dont have gps in his phone.
i think this application called google latitude is for 3g cell phone or multimedia but if suppose a user has nokia 1100 can this software trace i don't think so because this is working over wi fi connectivity(GPRS like thing)now one more query how does a cell phone with mobile tracking technology works gives us the better idea over tracking thing.
Remember the last unfortunate incident that happened In mumbai, i read that the India police worked with a telecoms company to track the phone device of a hidden suspect who was later apprehended through that means. [So almost definitely they have employed a type of tracking software integrated into a visual digital map, perhaps like maybe it cant reach out to ordinary individual but somehow they executed that feat as a governmental body]
How effective is Blackberry handsets in India?
The Verilocation software is obviously Global, but we all know its because of red tapes and political / espionage reasons which creates the draw back.
Nevertheless, since google is international company there must be a way to utilize Google earth with software which are also international like, WORLDTRACKER..i know it caused uproar in the UK few years back, as spouses where tracking each other even into Europe and America because there was no legal net to stop the tracking. Perhaps it might work with google earth now without boundaries.
the topic is about whether google earth is used to locate terrorists and not whether is has been used by terrorists.
and friend vijay, You are describing about defects of using google earth, according to the topic it must be an advantage,
let me start my discussion
google earth can also be termed as a satellite software. it has even beaten the concept of going around the world in $80, coz with this software it's across the globe in just one click.
and to avail this software, again all you need is just one click.
As Vijay,kalyani and deepti said it has both advantages and disadvantages,
The terrorists use such easily accessible, updated maps to plan their entry route, escape routes, etc etc. Why, even farmers in the US us Google Earth for their reporting and planning.
terrorism existed before google earth was invented but now they are using or may use the latest technology including google earth to plan more precise and bloody attacks...
it's not just Google Earth though. the kind of technology that people have in their hands now is incredible and there's much to room for misuse... a phone with a gps running google earth / nokia maps can mark you very accurately on a map. a camera with a gps locator adding your location to the photo when you're taking one can also be misused.
lets talk relevant to the topic,
Google earth can be used to track terrorists location by using their numbers.It can be called hacking but if someone installs google map onto his phone(symbian or windows mobile) And log in using his google id from phone via gprs then we can know his location gmap tracks the network tower of the owner and shows the location even if he dont have gps in his phone.
i think this application called google latitude is for 3g cell phone or multimedia but if suppose a user has nokia 1100 can this software trace i don't think so because this is working over wi fi connectivity(GPRS like thing)now one more query how does a cell phone with mobile tracking technology works gives us the better idea over tracking thing.
Remember the last unfortunate incident that happened In mumbai, i read that the India police worked with a telecoms company to track the phone device of a hidden suspect who was later apprehended through that means. [So almost definitely they have employed a type of tracking software integrated into a visual digital map, perhaps like maybe it cant reach out to ordinary individual but somehow they executed that feat as a governmental body]
How effective is Blackberry handsets in India?
The Verilocation software is obviously Global, but we all know its because of red tapes and political / espionage reasons which creates the draw back.
Nevertheless, since google is international company there must be a way to utilize Google earth with software which are also international like, WORLDTRACKER..i know it caused uproar in the UK few years back, as spouses where tracking each other even into Europe and America because there was no legal net to stop the tracking. Perhaps it might work with google earth now without boundaries.
Vijay, check your post, you have posted the same thing THREE times!!!
Kindly abstain from using such practices as this does not bode well in the forums!!
Sajeetharan,[quote] Nevertheless, since google is international company there must be a way to utilize Google earth with software which are also international like, WORLDTRACKER..i know it caused uproar in the UK few years back, as spouses where tracking each other even into Europe and America because there was no legal net to stop the tracking. Perhaps it might work with google earth now without boundaries. [/quote]
This is bound to happen with all things!! Each and every invention that is creayed to assist and ease life is going to be misused at some point!! Even mobile phones are no less than a lethal bomb when in the wrong hands and can be used to cause maximum destruction!
Similarly, google earth can be used to locate terrorists and at the same time it can be used by the terrorists to access intelligence related to strategic military establishments!
The workaround would be to tie up with Google and block out those locations on the google earth that are vulnerable and crucial from any country's defence point of view!
Kindly abstain from using such practices as this does not bode well in the forums!!
Sajeetharan,[quote] Nevertheless, since google is international company there must be a way to utilize Google earth with software which are also international like, WORLDTRACKER..i know it caused uproar in the UK few years back, as spouses where tracking each other even into Europe and America because there was no legal net to stop the tracking. Perhaps it might work with google earth now without boundaries. [/quote]
This is bound to happen with all things!! Each and every invention that is creayed to assist and ease life is going to be misused at some point!! Even mobile phones are no less than a lethal bomb when in the wrong hands and can be used to cause maximum destruction!
Similarly, google earth can be used to locate terrorists and at the same time it can be used by the terrorists to access intelligence related to strategic military establishments!
The workaround would be to tie up with Google and block out those locations on the google earth that are vulnerable and crucial from any country's defence point of view!
sajeetharan
[quote]Remember the last unfortunate incident that happened In mumbai, i read that the India police worked with a telecoms company to track the phone device of a hidden suspect who was later apprehended through that means. [So almost definitely they have employed a type of tracking software integrated into a visual digital map, perhaps like maybe it cant reach out to ordinary individual but somehow they executed that feat as a governmental body]
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Police worked with the telcom company to track the device....It is noting related to the google earth.
Google earth Only deal with the satellite Images..It has nothing related to mobile tracking..
If you know where is mobile device,then u can only track the way to it through google earth
And question about security forces using Google earth is very less.because Security forces work on a Intelligent report(input) like IB,RAW.As they need Accurate Information and google earth can provide it because images are of past date.
[quote]Remember the last unfortunate incident that happened In mumbai, i read that the India police worked with a telecoms company to track the phone device of a hidden suspect who was later apprehended through that means. [So almost definitely they have employed a type of tracking software integrated into a visual digital map, perhaps like maybe it cant reach out to ordinary individual but somehow they executed that feat as a governmental body]
[/quote]
Police worked with the telcom company to track the device....It is noting related to the google earth.
Google earth Only deal with the satellite Images..It has nothing related to mobile tracking..
If you know where is mobile device,then u can only track the way to it through google earth
And question about security forces using Google earth is very less.because Security forces work on a Intelligent report(input) like IB,RAW.As they need Accurate Information and google earth can provide it because images are of past date.
@Vijay
first understand what i was trying to say .. actually google earth and gps are more similar. I gave that example because Police has use gps(application of Google earth) to locate the Phoneof terrorits. now you got it?
Why do you relate IB,RAW here?. Yes i accept google earth can provide you exact images. But It cant be used to terrorists, There may be invalid CLICKS occur when,
For this purpose only ISRO designed BUVAN, The pictures are expected to be sharper than those on Google Earth as Bhuvan uses 10 meter resolution images as against 200 meter resolution photos offered by others.
Unlike in Google Earth, users will not be able to download images from Bhuvan and will be able to browse content like on any website.
Most importantly, being India specific, Bhuvan showed all areas in detail. Many of the smaller places in India are not covered in detail by Google Earth.
But google earth was the better one actually,
G-earth is real treat today , it can b used against INDIA to locate many important places
TERRORISTS are using it sometime to find best path to follow from KARACHI to INDIA, but It cant be used by police or anyone to detect terrorists (except using GPS mobile tracker)
first understand what i was trying to say .. actually google earth and gps are more similar. I gave that example because Police has use gps(application of Google earth) to locate the Phoneof terrorits. now you got it?
Why do you relate IB,RAW here?. Yes i accept google earth can provide you exact images. But It cant be used to terrorists, There may be invalid CLICKS occur when,
For this purpose only ISRO designed BUVAN, The pictures are expected to be sharper than those on Google Earth as Bhuvan uses 10 meter resolution images as against 200 meter resolution photos offered by others.
Unlike in Google Earth, users will not be able to download images from Bhuvan and will be able to browse content like on any website.
Most importantly, being India specific, Bhuvan showed all areas in detail. Many of the smaller places in India are not covered in detail by Google Earth.
But google earth was the better one actually,
G-earth is real treat today , it can b used against INDIA to locate many important places
TERRORISTS are using it sometime to find best path to follow from KARACHI to INDIA, but It cant be used by police or anyone to detect terrorists (except using GPS mobile tracker)
I do agree with sajeetharan,
SEcurity forces can used this BHUVAN to find out hidden places of terrorist camps,training,establishment,etc.
And also BHUVAN does not reveal military Establishment...Also image are updated per year.
Google Earth Should Also followed the same guidelines...so that terrorist cant used Google earth.
SEcurity forces can used this BHUVAN to find out hidden places of terrorist camps,training,establishment,etc.
And also BHUVAN does not reveal military Establishment...Also image are updated per year.
Google Earth Should Also followed the same guidelines...so that terrorist cant used Google earth.
Sajeetharan wrote: [quote]G-earth is real treat today , it can b used against INDIA to locate many important places[/quote]
Sajeetheran., if the terrorists cannot have G-earth, they will find other means to harm Indians. Tehse organizations are well known for their destructive reourcefulness.
An eg: 9/11 terrorists who bombed WTC towers practiced their evil deed with the help of Microsoft's Flight Simulator. Should Microsoft be held repentent for developing thsi software then? Or should this software be removed and forever banned???
The solution therefore is not to ban or obstruct these softwares but clearly establish the cruciality and vulnerability factor of various strategic military and civilian establishments and restrict the detail of such places on G earth!
Sajeetheran., if the terrorists cannot have G-earth, they will find other means to harm Indians. Tehse organizations are well known for their destructive reourcefulness.
An eg: 9/11 terrorists who bombed WTC towers practiced their evil deed with the help of Microsoft's Flight Simulator. Should Microsoft be held repentent for developing thsi software then? Or should this software be removed and forever banned???
The solution therefore is not to ban or obstruct these softwares but clearly establish the cruciality and vulnerability factor of various strategic military and civilian establishments and restrict the detail of such places on G earth!
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