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rambabu wrote: I work with underprivileged teens  have been doing so for years. I have never felt the lack of respect  with the way I handle them.  But this may not be the universal truth.  Would you be happy honestly if your children took to drinking in front of you.. I mean on a regular basis. Or engaged in antisocial activities? Yes change is the only permanent thing in life.  But change for the good, parents need to be involved in the change  of their children, we cannot absolve ourselves saying changes happen.  Instill in them the values for life so that even in a changing world they adapt with their values intact.  Occasionally  on special occasions all our family members enjoy a drink. My children and my wife know the significance of such celebrations. They are very limited. My children never indulged in anti social activities nor going to indulge in future. I or my wife never lectured before them about DOs and DONTs of discipline They learned right from their formative years from me.   I never mentioned anything about lecturing.. Instill means teach them values from their young age.  I was asking Usha a question if she would be happy to see her children drinking on a regular basis ( because she used the example) or get into antisocial activities .. because they are value based too. I was talking about the needs to change and adapt with our values intact.  Either  we don't understand each other or don't want to. I am  not getting this at all.     
10 years ago
Sofs wrote: usha manohar wrote: Funnily enough I have never felt a lack of respect from the younger generation , only the interaction level has changed. My own children are not what I am to my mother because we were brought up with different values at a different period of time. when we all accept that change is the only permanent thing in life, we also have to accept that the younger generations are different to us, they are smarter and are more direct in their ways. In the olden days drinking liquor and smoking in front of your elders was considered disrespectful...not any more ! In fact I would be happier if it is done so, without any fear because we can always talk about it openly, may be even drive some sense into the youngsters as and when needed , IF they are willing to listen , that is ! LOL.. I work with underprivileged teens  have been doing so for years. I have never felt the lack of respect  with the way I handle them.  But this may not be the universal truth.  Would you be happy honestly if your children took to drinking in front of you.. I mean on a regular basis. Or engaged in antisocial activities? Yes change is the only permanent thing in life.  But change for the good, parents need to be involved in the change  of their children, we cannot absolve ourselves saying changes happen.  Instill in them the values for life so that even in a changing world they adapt with their values intact.  Occasionally  on special occasions all our family members enjoy a drink. My children and my wife know the significance of such celebrations. They are very limited. My children never indulged in anti social activities nor going to indulge in future. I or my wife never lectured before them about DOs and DONTs of discipline They learned right from their formative years from me.  
10 years ago
Sofs wrote: rambabu wrote: Sofs wrote: Our politicians will do anything to get what they want. I guess we need to bear a part of the blame for even electing them. I can just about imagine the chaos they and their thugs would create.  I guess this is a pointer to why clubs have certain restrictions, dress code being one of them.   Not just a part, but the entire blame is poeple's. " Yadha Praja thatha Raja. Like the people like the ruler. I may not subscribe to your view.. we have only criminals, petty thieves  and hooligans to choose from. The system is so corrupt that  everything is rigged and tampered with. ' People can be bought with money.. What choice do we have.  We choose the best of the rotten apples.. at least I do.   If I don't have any other option,I prefer not choosing the apple at all.  What to do with the rotten apple? I don't want to spoil my health    
10 years ago
rambabu wrote: Sofs wrote: Our politicians will do anything to get what they want. I guess we need to bear a part of the blame for even electing them. I can just about imagine the chaos they and their thugs would create.  I guess this is a pointer to why clubs have certain restrictions, dress code being one of them.   Not just a part, but the entire blame is poeple's. " Yadha Praja thatha Raja. Like the people like the ruler. I may not subscribe to your view.. we have only criminals, petty thieves  and hooligans to choose from. The system is so corrupt that  everything is rigged and tampered with. ' People can be bought with money.. What choice do we have.  We choose the best of the rotten apples.. at least I do.   
10 years ago
usha manohar wrote: Funnily enough I have never felt a lack of respect from the younger generation , only the interaction level has changed. My own children are not what I am to my mother because we were brought up with different values at a different period of time. when we all accept that change is the only permanent thing in life, we also have to accept that the younger generations are different to us, they are smarter and are more direct in their ways. In the olden days drinking liquor and smoking in front of your elders was considered disrespectful...not any more ! In fact I would be happier if it is done so, without any fear because we can always talk about it openly, may be even drive some sense into the youngsters as and when needed , IF they are willing to listen , that is ! LOL.. I work with underprivileged teens  have been doing so for years. I have never felt the lack of respect  with the way I handle them.  But this may not be the universal truth.  Would you be happy honestly if your children took to drinking in front of you.. I mean on a regular basis. Or engaged in antisocial activities? Yes change is the only permanent thing in life.  But change for the good, parents need to be involved in the change  of their children, we cannot absolve ourselves saying changes happen.  Instill in them the values for life so that even in a changing world they adapt with their values intact. 
10 years ago
Such a good taxation system. I doubt if the Government is ready for this system. Because in such system there will not be any scope for Pocketing the money for our ministers.  
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic Does toll take a toll on you?.
usha manohar wrote: Absolutely ! In fact a nominal amount should be charged just o recover the cost which also in my opinion is unnecessary.When you see the way roads are maintained abroad and no charges for driving through any of them, we may say they are rich and they can afford but that is only part of the truth, it is efficient management of funds and quality service that makes it possible. Their roads dont sport gaping holes , within 6 months after repairs costing a few crore rupees, for which we are paying tolls.. Exactly now that we see the point.. we can move on further  Like i said earlier the politicians eat up all the taxpayers money on their foreign trips and treatments. Where is the revenue going on road maintenance. The pot holes show up because the right material don't go in. Diversions come up due to the lack of proper planning.  We have to stop every 50-75 km because we have no system in place.   
10 years ago
There are toll ways in other countries too but one doesn't have to stop for paying (they deduct automatically from your prepaid card) Besides the charges are for passing through heavy traffic Jones to reduce the load and apply for limited/fixed time. Yes, there is no toll tax on express highways anywhere which are far better maintained and last far longer.
10 years ago
suni51 wrote: rambabu wrote: suni51 wrote: rambabu wrote: Taxes are revenue generating tools. Government cannot avoid them or completely abolish. What you intended to say is quite clear. If one feels the amount is too high, they can travel by Buses operated by respective state governments. The toll tax will be shared by all the bus travelers, which will be less comparatively.   Let me put it this way- I am paying 100/ because I am traveling in a car where as you are paying Rs 3 because you are traveling in a bus with 50 other passengers. How would you feel if they charge 100/ each passenger traveling by bus? Besides the bus is far heavier than a car and making bigger load on the road. Be honest while answering this.... Are you ready to accept this formula? PS The toll tax is charged two wheeler 20/ Car 100/ Passengers not taken into account Bus 150/ .... Do Trucks 250/ Load no factor Thanks for the info. My doubts are cleared.         I feel the authorities should fix the same toll tax like 10/ each passenger whatever vehicle he is using and load factor should be taken into account for trucks and other carriers. If the Fund swindling ,tours by the ministers and many perks are stopped, the toll tax burden will be reduced. And what you suggested are quite possible      
10 years ago
Absolutely ! In fact a nominal amount should be charged just o recover the cost which also in my opinion is unnecessary.When you see the way roads are maintained abroad and no charges for driving through any of them, we may say they are rich and they can afford but that is only part of the truth, it is efficient management of funds and quality service that makes it possible. Their roads dont sport gaping holes , within 6 months after repairs costing a few crore rupees, for which we are paying tolls..
10 years ago
rambabu wrote: suni51 wrote: rambabu wrote: Taxes are revenue generating tools. Government cannot avoid them or completely abolish. What you intended to say is quite clear. If one feels the amount is too high, they can travel by Buses operated by respective state governments. The toll tax will be shared by all the bus travelers, which will be less comparatively.   Let me put it this way- I am paying 100/ because I am traveling in a car where as you are paying Rs 3 because you are traveling in a bus with 50 other passengers. How would you feel if they charge 100/ each passenger traveling by bus? Besides the bus is far heavier than a car and making bigger load on the road. Be honest while answering this.... Are you ready to accept this formula? PS The toll tax is charged two wheeler 20/ Car 100/ Passengers not taken into account Bus 150/ .... Do Trucks 250/ Load no factor Thanks for the info. My doubts are cleared.         I feel the authorities should fix the same toll tax like 10/ each passenger whatever vehicle he is using and load factor should be taken into account for trucks and other carriers.     
10 years ago
suni51 wrote: rambabu wrote: Taxes are revenue generating tools. Government cannot avoid them or completely abolish. What you intended to say is quite clear. If one feels the amount is too high, they can travel by Buses operated by respective state governments. The toll tax will be shared by all the bus travelers, which will be less comparatively.   Let me put it this way- I am paying 100/ because I am traveling in a car where as you are paying Rs 3 because you are traveling in a bus with 50 other passengers. How would you feel if they charge 100/ each passenger traveling by bus? Besides the bus is far heavier than a car and making bigger load on the road. Be honest while answering this.... Are you ready to accept this formula? PS The toll tax is charged two wheeler 20/ Car 100/ Passengers not taken into account Bus 150/ .... Do Trucks 250/ Load no factor Thanks for the info. My doubts are cleared.  
10 years ago
rambabu wrote: Taxes are revenue generating tools. Government cannot avoid them or completely abolish. What you intended to say is quite clear. If one feels the amount is too high, they can travel by Buses operated by respective state governments. The toll tax will be shared by all the bus travelers, which will be less comparatively.   Let me put it this way- I am paying 100/ because I am traveling in a car where as you are paying Rs 3 because you are traveling in a bus with 50 other passengers. How would feel if they charge 100/ each passenger traveling by bus? Besides the bus is far heavier than a car and making bigger load on the road. Be honest while answering this.... Are you ready to accept this formula? PS The toll tax is charged two wheeler 20/ Car 100/ Passengers not taken into account Bus 150/ .... Do Trucks 250/ Load no factor
10 years ago
Funnily enough I have never felt a lack of respect from the younger generation , only the interaction level has changed. My own children are not what I am to my mother because we were brought up with different values at a different period of time. when we all accept that change is the only permanent thing in life, we also have to accept that the younger generations are different to us, they are smarter and are more direct in their ways. In the olden days drinking liquor and smoking in front of your elders was considered disrespectful...not any more ! In fact I would be happier if it is done so, without any fear because we can always talk about it openly, may be even drive some sense into the youngsters as and when needed , IF they are willing to listen , that is ! LOL..
10 years ago
Sofs wrote: Our politicians will do anything to get what they want. I guess we need to bear a part of the blame for even electing them. I can just about imagine the chaos they and their thugs would create.  I guess this is a pointer to why clubs have certain restrictions, dress code being one of them.   Not just a part, but the entire blame is poeple's. " Yadha Praja thatha Raja. Like the people like the ruler.  
10 years ago
Sofs replied to the topic Does toll take a toll on you?.
rambabu wrote: Taxes are revenue generating tools. Government cannot avoid them or completely abolish. What you intended to say is quite clear. If one feels the amount is too high, they can travel by Buses operated by respective state governments. The toll tax will be shared by all the bus travelers, which will be less comparatively.  I guess everyone understands taxes are revenue for governments.  Travelling by buses is a personal choice.  No one spoke about abolishing toll anywhere here.  The point seems to be missed .. we need services for the price we pay..is it that bad to ask for quality service? I don't understand this argument.   
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic Height of joblessness..
Manoj Kumar Lamba wrote: suni51 wrote: Everyone wants a government job as it is a guarantee of permanent income for life, pension, perks and pay without work. It makes no difference whether you're appointed as peon or a higher official the main attraction is the pay without moving a finger. The other benefits like bribes and job guarantee etc etc are added benefits. As the fake degrees are concerned these are available in all states of India including Hariyana and Karnataka.  Very true, people looks for government jobs whether it is post of peon or some other. One entered into government job they feel guarantee of job security for life time. If some peon has link to politicians they will not afraid of anyone, they show that if they are the owner of the institute where they are working and they can do anything they want. It's a fact. Do you know that the Peon in a Minister's office, the Dafedar or the peon as is called is considered as more powerful than the minister. If the applicant, greases his palms, take for granted his job is done.  
10 years ago
Sofs wrote: Our politicians will do anything to get what they want. I guess we need to bear a part of the blame for even electing them. I can just about imagine the chaos they and their thugs would create.  I guess this is a pointer to why clubs have certain restrictions, dress code being one of them.  I agree, sporing clubs like golf and Badminton are also meant for social activities and in most f these a dress code is strictly maintained and it may irk the non members, but the members are fine with it.. Cant imagine politicians and their entourage entering here with their pot bellies !
10 years ago