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@ anil, I too would agree with that because a divorce proceeding is long drawn and very expensive and as is the case here in India, normally it is the wife who gets a raw deal, I have seen many such cases ..It is better to live separately and have their freedom! @ Gulshan , As of now they want to live separately , in fact the wife is already living with her father and may continue to be with him.Divorce is definitely not a practical solution here in India since it is still very much one sided !
10 years ago
The ban was the brain child of   Congress party which banned Beef way back in 1955...now of course the party and its many leaders are speaking in different voices as is to be expected since they change tune according to the prevailing situation and are adept at twisting facts ...Now the Hrayana CM has clarified his stand on the issue .. http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/muslims-can-stay-but-must-give-up-beef-says-haryana-chief-minister-ml-khattar-1232818 http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/beef-ban-is-nothing-but-diversion-from-core-issues-congress-115032900493_1.html http://scroll.in/article/755111/meat-ban-irony-how-a-congress-imposed-order-was-cut-to-size-during-bjp-rule http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/congress-was-the-first-in-banning-cow-slaughter-will-consider-backing-central-law-on-ban-digvijay-singh/articleshow/49231773.cms  
10 years ago
It appears that we are on verge of Hindu Rashtra. Now the minorities have to leave India and settle in Pakistan if they eat beef. This is proclamation of Haryana C.M. and RSS functionary.  It is forgotten that entire North East is beef eater. Besides, even Hindus in Bengal are beef eaters.  This way, most residents of these regions will have to be sent to Pakistan.  Will Pakistan not demand land and resources for settling them. Moreover, if other countries where people of Indian origins also are required to go to India, what will be affect on us.  The foreign based Indians may be required not to follow the Indian customs or wear Indian type food or worship Indian leaders- else go to India.  http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-muslims-can-stay-in-india-but-have-to-give-up-eating-beef-says-haryana-cm-khattar-2135417  
10 years ago
If they intend to remarry after divorce, legal separation/ divorce is necessary. If on the other hand they inrend to live singe after separation, formal divorce or judicial separation is not necessary. They may live separate even without announcement. 
10 years ago
vijay wrote: Mayawati is the outcome of a class conflict raging from centuries in this country. The installing of statues of elephants and a couple of her own along with Kashiram's statue is to be seen as expression of identity politics. It is a manner of establishing or registering a place in society which was denied till date. When statues of upper caste leaders like Netaji, Nehru, Gandhi are installed all over the country at state expense it is considered normal but when a Dalit's statue is installed it is usually seen as waste of money. Till caste based discrimination is there such demonstrations of identity politics will occur. Incidentally the park at NOIDA is today a beautiful  picnic cum tourist site and Dalits also are proud to see their icons standing tall. Let us not grudge them their due after crushing them for centuries. The statues of Congress leaders- mostly of one family have been erected in numerous parts of India and also hospitals. institutions named after them. Mayavati had to erect statues of Dalit icons in short span of her rule. There appears nothing wrong. Moreover, it appears that she is the only hope for Uttar Pradesh in existing conditions. I hope minorities and Dalits would be safer in her rule.   
10 years ago
The most ideal person, who came from a poor family and rose up to the pinnacles of glory. Known fondly as the Missile Man of India, is the person who paved the way to space technology. All along his life he worked for the nation. My tributes to him  
10 years ago
rambabu replied to the topic World food day October 16.
anil wrote: rambabu wrote: World Food Day is observed all over the world on October 16. It's objective is to eradicate Hunger by spreading awareness among the people. But with the rampant abuse of environment for the sake of Development, rainfall has become scarce. Groundwater levels are depleting. All these factors are to pondered before we think of eradicating Hunger. It applies to India too. Due to reduced rainfall, it has become a herculean task for a farmer to grow his crops. For this reason farmers are forced to resort to chemical based agriculture. The chemical used for farming are ridden with toxins, which further lead to poisoning the food.  The traders started using artificial colors to the vegetables and artificial ways to ripen the fruits. As far as I'm concerned, I'm aware that I'm eating poison, not food. But I don't have any option. Some consolation for me is, I eat more pulses. and I eat only home food. Not only we eating poison, we are drinking poison, we are breathing poison. We have not any option. Pulses are also not free from poison. You can cook food at home you can't grow these at home. The best solution of it is use these with care. Use old grains and try to grow some vegetable at home. Filter water properly. I agree. We don't have any option. Even old grains also not easily available except in faraway village  fairs. In these fast paced life, it is not possible. But as you said, one should exercise utmost care in using these foods. That is the only option left to us.    
10 years ago
anil wrote: vijay wrote: Yes agitation and forming pressure groups. Politics in our country has now got reduced to this stae if one wants justice. The politicians have turned deaf and blind. They only see foreign trips, bigger bungalows, and financial security for seven generations to follow them. all at state expense of course. So till people do not agitate they will not get anything. It is India dear, no work till agitation is working culture of it. Government know well that demands of public geniune, but government never wake up till the agitation. Government without breaking the silence and remain unmoved till the agitation is an example of bad governance.  In the mean time anti social elements enter the agitations and damage both the people's and governments property. Some times innocents may lose their lives. Who is responsible for this ? who will bear this huge loss, which could have been avoided by timely action by the government.    
10 years ago
Yesterday was 84 birth anniversary of Ex. President Dr. Kalam. Yesterday I could not log in site so I did not post topic. Here is school students celebrates birthday of Dr. kalam and student day. Happy Birthday Dr. Kalam.
10 years ago
anil replied to the topic World food day October 16.
rambabu wrote: World Food Day is observed all over the world on October 16. It's objective is to eradicate Hunger by spreading awareness among the people. But with the rampant abuse of environment for the sake of Development, rainfall has become scarce. Groundwater levels are depleting. All these factors are to pondered before we think of eradicating Hunger. It applies to India too. Due to reduced rainfall, it has become a herculean task for a farmer to grow his crops. For this reason farmers are forced to resort to chemical based agriculture. The chemical used for farming are ridden with toxins, which further lead to poisoning the food.  The traders started using artificial colors to the vegetables and artificial ways to ripen the fruits. As far as I'm concerned, I'm aware that I'm eating poison, not food. But I don't have any option. Some consolation for me is, I eat more pulses. and I eat only home food. Not only we eating poison, we are drinking poison, we are breathing poison. We have not any option. Pulses are also not free from poison. You can cook food at home you can't grow these at home. The best solution of it is use these with care. Use old grains and try to grow some vegetable at home. Filter water properly.  
10 years ago
anil wrote: usha manohar wrote: anil wrote: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote: usha manohar wrote: In fact I read somewhere that non Hindus should not be allowed to take part in Dasara celebrations and Dandiya and Garba dances because it will lead to Love Jihad ! Of course this is ridiculous and laughable , and comes from a small section of people who have no other better business other than creating problems and I feel the less importance the media and others give to such people the better ! I had also read this. I feel that there should be no such restriction in widely celebrated public function. But when the function is private or limited to a residential society only, such restrictions could be okay. Incidentally, in most temples in Orissa, non Hindus are not allowed.  This also does not seem wrong. It is wrong to disturb others but okay not to allow others in your own functions.  Religion is not written on the forehead of any one. More over Graba celebration are of private. These are organize by groups of peoples. I am living in area where I never listen about this type restrictions. Here people of all religion celebrate Dusshara, Depawali and other festivals. It is another thing they don't worship like Hindus. If VHP is imposing this type restriction, than what is government is doing.                                    It happens only in some places and just because someone issues a statement , it does not mean that people are going to automatically obey and do as dictated by them.And government cannot unnecessarily get involved with these petty matters which may or not become a reality .. Matter is petty, but it is duty of government to assured that every citizen of country obey law and order. Indeed roots racism and religion is much deep in our country. It will take more time to overthrow these. Here we 10 or more members are not in favor of this type of malpractice, like we more people of our country not in support of this evil. I agree, it is the duty of every citizen to abide by the law of the land. For this, the government should implement the law in a strict way. If the government fails, people will take the law in to their hands.    
10 years ago
usha manohar wrote: anil wrote: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote: usha manohar wrote: In fact I read somewhere that non Hindus should not be allowed to take part in Dasara celebrations and Dandiya and Garba dances because it will lead to Love Jihad ! Of course this is ridiculous and laughable , and comes from a small section of people who have no other better business other than creating problems and I feel the less importance the media and others give to such people the better ! I had also read this. I feel that there should be no such restriction in widely celebrated public function. But when the function is private or limited to a residential society only, such restrictions could be okay. Incidentally, in most temples in Orissa, non Hindus are not allowed.  This also does not seem wrong. It is wrong to disturb others but okay not to allow others in your own functions.  Religion is not written on the forehead of any one. More over Graba celebration are of private. These are organize by groups of peoples. I am living in area where I never listen about this type restrictions. Here people of all religion celebrate Dusshara, Depawali and other festivals. It is another thing they don't worship like Hindus. If VHP is imposing this type restriction, than what is government is doing.                                    It happens only in some places and just because someone issues a statement , it does not mean that people are going to automatically obey and do as dictated by them.And government cannot unnecessarily get involved with these petty matters which may or not become a reality .. Matter is petty, but it is duty of government to assured that every citizen of country obey law and order. Indeed roots racism and religion is much deep in our country. It will take more time to overthrow these. Here we 10 or more members are not in favor of this type of malpractice, like we more people of our country not in support of this evil.  
10 years ago
usha manohar wrote: Of course mutual adjustment is a way of life everywhere ...Not just you but I find most Indian men never learn to cook and look after themselves , so I feel that it is imperative for mothers to make sure that their sons know some basic knowledge of cooking .. Fortunately, All my children are very good cooks. When they are with us, we together go for a movie or for a a visit her old friends or my friends. We utilize their visit to the fullest extent.  
10 years ago
usha manohar wrote: Kalyani Nandurkar wrote: So sad and tragic! I can imagine how the daughter must be feeling, I think that as a mature and intelligent couple, they must talk it out and try to give it one more chance, after all it is not so easy to end a marriage that lasted for 26 whole years. But on the other side, if they are both control freaks as claimed by each spouse, then it must be very difficult to adjust with each other. They should probably seek counseller for therapy to keep their controlling nature in control. Otherwise, legal separation is the only option. Yes Kalyani, they are both strong personalities and that is probably the flash point and there are any number of minor issues that come out now. The husband has the full support of his family members because they all blame the wife although the couple has not divulged too many details to them. However , the lady in question has no mother and her father and her only brother are both  neutral because they feel that being negative may spoil things more and they genuinely like her husband.So, it looks all the more that it is the fault of the wife which is not the case ! I also feel that his family has been the cause to some extent but I may be going only by her own account .. I am not in favor of legal separation. If they are interested in another marriage than legal separation is necessary, other wise what is purpose of divorce. Remember every husband and wife have soft corner for each other. If they don't like to live together than can live separate without divorce. Gulzar and Rakhi is example of it, they are living separate for 40 years without legal separation. No one knows when we feel that we need each other. All doors will closed after legal separation.  
10 years ago
Of course mutual adjustment is a way of life everywhere ...Not just you but I find most Indian men never learn to cook and look after themselves , so I feel that it is imperative for mothers to make sure that their sons know some basic knowledge of cooking ..
10 years ago
vijay wrote: Yes agitation and forming pressure groups. Politics in our country has now got reduced to this stae if one wants justice. The politicians have turned deaf and blind. They only see foreign trips, bigger bungalows, and financial security for seven generations to follow them. all at state expense of course. So till people do not agitate they will not get anything. It is India dear, no work till agitation is working culture of it. Government know well that demands of public geniune, but government never wake up till the agitation.  
10 years ago
Yes. I agree, I could have prepared my breakfast. I wait because I cannot prepare breakfast. Which is why I come to terms with her without creating an ugly scene. I adjust with her and she adjusts with me. Whatever that leads to arguments and heated exchanges are momentary. And believe me  i feel ashamed after every such incidents take place and apologize her openly. She also understands and accepts my apologies wholeheartedly/  
10 years ago
So centuries of wrongs would be righted by centuries of wrongs? A very erudite piece of cerebral and celebrated thought! ! The dalit people have seen and known tallest leaders amongst them who never got infected by this incurable megalomania of giving stony forms in their lifetimes.And the one who set in this trend was Karunanidhi and look at his plight today and Mayawati ? Her own people have booted out of power and let us see how long her political wilderness lasts. Some people could be extraordinarily naive and clever by half in obfuscating history to preach their undigested line of thought.The same set of people who lambast RSS and BJP for evoking historical wrongs done on Hindus by Muslims would strangely take refuge behind history.My simple point was why public money was put to Tuglakhi uses to promote someone's fad and whims but the anger was the answer. All sound and fury!!!!
10 years ago
Whether it is a Dalit leader or someone belonging to the  upper caste, corruption is the same as far as people are concerned . Our CM too is from the Dalit or Backward caste. We see them getting their due with  reservations even in political posts like Mayor, Corporator etc In my own city a lady who can barely speak has been made a corporator and deputy mayor because both are reserved category for OBC and ladies . What kind of justification is that ? 
10 years ago
@ Kalyani , the lady is now unwilling because she has suffered a lot in the past and their daughter too supports her mother and feels that they all could be happy by being independent. I guess the lady has reached a point of no return now and her in laws are quite feudal in their thinking although the husband is quite broad minded ! She is hesitating to take the step because she knows that even legally she will be the loser ! @ Rambabu,,,it is always the petty issues that become  major issues in a marriage ! Just out of curiosity, why don't you get you fix your breakfast yourself and let your wife chat to her hearts content ?
10 years ago