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Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Tipu sultan fought battle against the British. He is rightly considered as a hero, a freedom fighter and known for innovative measures. It is learnt that there is resentment in some regions for his said repression of certain communities. This resulted in tussle and death of one person. This is unfortunate. It is duty of government to consider the ground reality. It is no use celebrating the occasion in a way as would lead to such nuisance and loss of life. As regards positive andf negative aspects of Tipu sultan's rule, it is for historians to comment.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
As a spoken language and practical use, there is no doubt that Sanskrit is a dead language. This lives only as a symbolic religious language used for rituals on birth, marriage and death. I don't know whether any one can explain its more use in contemporary India. Something that is not used is called dead or extinct,howsoever you may love that.
However there is controversy. The fact of its use on ceremonial occasions, in rituals and declaration as official language in some states though not actually used in any official communication are considered as evidence of living language. Ut will be interesting to readfollowing extract from wikipedia:
"There are a number of sociolinguistic studiesof spoken Sanskrit which strongly suggest that oral use of modern Sanskrit is limited, having ceased development sometime in the past.
Sheldon Pollock argues that "most observers would agree that, in some crucial way, Sanskrit is dead". Pollock has further argued that, while Sanskrit continued to be used in literary cultures in India, it was never adapted to express the changing forms of subjectivity and sociality as embodied and conceptualised in the modern age.[18]:416 Instead, it was reduced to "reinscription and restatements" of ideas already explored, and any creativity was restricted to hymns and verses.[18]:398 A notable exception are the military references of Nīlakaṇṭha Caturdhara's 17th-century commentary on theMahābhārata.[50]
Pollock's characterisation has been contested by other authors like Hanneder and Hatcher, who point out that modern works continue to be produced in Sanskrit.[51]
On a more public level the statement that Sanskrit is a dead language is misleading, for Sanskrit is quite obviously not as dead as other dead languages and the fact that it is spoken, written and read will probably convince most people that it cannot be a dead language in the most common usage of the term. Pollock's notion of the "death of Sanskrit" remains in this unclear realm between academia and public opinion when he says that "most observers would agree that, in some crucial way, Sanskrit is dead."
— Hanneder[52]
Hanneder has also argued that modern works in Sanskrit are either ignored or their "modernity" contested.[53]
When the British imposed a Western-style education system in India in the nineteenth century, knowledge of Sanskrit and ancient literature continued to flourish as the study of Sanskrit changed from a more traditional style into a form of analytical and comparative scholarship mirroring that of Europe.
10 years ago
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Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic Saffronizing education .
Also how many understand what is being said?
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usha manohar replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
I hope Tipu turns in his grave at least now ...after all the atrocities he is supposed to have committed !
This is from wikipedia ..
Haidar Ali and Tipu Sultan[edit]
See also: Mysore invasion of Kerala
An 1868 photograph of the ruins of the Vijayanagara Empire atHampi, now a UNESCO World Heritage Site[36]
There are historians who state that Tippu Sultan was a religious persecutor of Hindus.[37][38] C. K. Kareem also notes that Tippu Sultan issued an edict for the destruction of Hindu temples in Kerala.[39] Hindu groups revileTipu Sultan as a bigot who massacred Hindus.[40] He was known to carry out forced conversions of Hindus and Christians.[41]
Tipu got Runmust Khan, the Nawab of Kurool, to launch a surprise attack upon the Kodava Hindus (also called Coorgs or Coorgis) who were besieged by the invading Muslim army. 500 were killed and over 40,000 Kodavas fled to the woods and concealed themselves in the mountains.[42] Thousands of Kodava Hindus were seized along with the Raja and held captive at Seringapatam (Srirangapatna). They were also subjected to forcible conversions to Islam, death, and torture.[43][full citation needed]
In Seringapatam, the young men who were forcibly circumcised were incorporated into the Ahmedy Corps, and they formed eight Risalas or regiments.[42] The actual number of Kodavas that were captured in the operation is unclear. The British administrator Mark Wilks gives it as 70,000, Historian Lewis Rice arrives at the figure of 85,000, while Mir Kirmani's score for the Coorg campaign is 80,000 men, women and child prisoners.[42] In a letter to Runmust Khan, Tipu himself stated We proceeded with the utmost speed, and, at once, made prisoners of 40,000 occasion-seeking and sedition-exciting Coorgis, who alarmed at the approach of our victorious army, had slunk into woods, and concealed themselves in lofty mountains, inaccessible even to birds. Then carrying them away from their native country (the native place of sedition) we raised them to the honour of Islam, and incorporated them into our Ahmedy corps.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
If someone labors under his or her
misconception as to the true status
of a language and obstinately claims that
the loss of spoken status of it as
a measure of its importance in the
historical perspective to the point
of pooh-pooh it as an extinct language
,there is hardly anything left for
me to defend my stand!
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Nobel for Ramdev! .
I don't understand why anybody including Baba Ramdev should be running after any kind of awards knowing they are manipulated here and may be even abroad! It is a kind of ego trip for most people except a few genuine people who may get it without actually hankering after it or expecting it !
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
Mousumi Ghosh wrote:
Obesity can be controlled by keeping a check on our diet and by exercising regularly. If nothing else brisk walking helps, also I have seen drinking water helps to keep a check on weight. By drinking water half an hour before having any meal helps us to consume less, hence we should practice to have small portions of food at regular intervals.
I agree drinking water really helps especially for people like me who cannot resist food...I drink a glass of water before every meal which I am sure brings down the quantity I eat and of course brisk walking is another that helps in reducing your weight all round and keeping you trim.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Happy Diwali to all in Advance.
HAPPY DIWALI AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO BODDUNAN MEMBERS AND ADMINISTRATORS.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
Tipu sultan fought battle against the British. He is rightly considered as a hero, a freedom fighter and known for innovative measures. It is learnt that there is resentment in some regions for his said repression of certain communities. This resulted in tussle and death of one person. This is unfortunate. It is duty of government to consider the ground reality. It is no use celebrating the occasion in a way as would lead to such nuisance and loss of life. As regards positive andf negative aspects of Tipu sultan's rule, it is for historians to comment.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
As a spoken language and practical use, there is no doubt that Sanskrit is a dead language. This lives only as a symbolic religious language used for rituals on birth, marriage and death. I don't know whether any one can explain its more use in contemporary India. Something that is not used is called dead or extinct,howsoever you may love that.
However there is controversy. The fact of its use on ceremonial occasions, in rituals and declaration as official language in some states though not actually used in any official communication are considered as evidence of living language. Ut will be interesting to readfollowing extract from wikipedia:
"There are a number of sociolinguistic studiesof spoken Sanskrit which strongly suggest that oral use of modern Sanskrit is limited, having ceased development sometime in the past.
Sheldon Pollock argues that "most observers would agree that, in some crucial way, Sanskrit is dead". Pollock has further argued that, while Sanskrit continued to be used in literary cultures in India, it was never adapted to express the changing forms of subjectivity and sociality as embodied and conceptualised in the modern age.[18]:416 Instead, it was reduced to "reinscription and restatements" of ideas already explored, and any creativity was restricted to hymns and verses.[18]:398 A notable exception are the military references of Nīlakaṇṭha Caturdhara's 17th-century commentary on theMahābhārata.[50]
Pollock's characterisation has been contested by other authors like Hanneder and Hatcher, who point out that modern works continue to be produced in Sanskrit.[51]
On a more public level the statement that Sanskrit is a dead language is misleading, for Sanskrit is quite obviously not as dead as other dead languages and the fact that it is spoken, written and read will probably convince most people that it cannot be a dead language in the most common usage of the term. Pollock's notion of the "death of Sanskrit" remains in this unclear realm between academia and public opinion when he says that "most observers would agree that, in some crucial way, Sanskrit is dead."
— Hanneder[52]
Hanneder has also argued that modern works in Sanskrit are either ignored or their "modernity" contested.[53]
When the British imposed a Western-style education system in India in the nineteenth century, knowledge of Sanskrit and ancient literature continued to flourish as the study of Sanskrit changed from a more traditional style into a form of analytical and comparative scholarship mirroring that of Europe.
10 years ago
Kalyani Nandurkar liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
Gulshan Kumar Ajmani said thank you to vijay for his/her reply to the topic Saffronizing education .
Also how many understand what is being said?
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Koh-i-noor Diamond - Legal Challenge against Queen Elizabeth.
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic celebrating Tipu sultan Birth day .
I hope Tipu turns in his grave at least now ...after all the atrocities he is supposed to have committed !
This is from wikipedia ..
Haidar Ali and Tipu Sultan[edit]
See also: Mysore invasion of Kerala
An 1868 photograph of the ruins of the Vijayanagara Empire atHampi, now a UNESCO World Heritage Site[36]
There are historians who state that Tippu Sultan was a religious persecutor of Hindus.[37][38] C. K. Kareem also notes that Tippu Sultan issued an edict for the destruction of Hindu temples in Kerala.[39] Hindu groups revileTipu Sultan as a bigot who massacred Hindus.[40] He was known to carry out forced conversions of Hindus and Christians.[41]
Tipu got Runmust Khan, the Nawab of Kurool, to launch a surprise attack upon the Kodava Hindus (also called Coorgs or Coorgis) who were besieged by the invading Muslim army. 500 were killed and over 40,000 Kodavas fled to the woods and concealed themselves in the mountains.[42] Thousands of Kodava Hindus were seized along with the Raja and held captive at Seringapatam (Srirangapatna). They were also subjected to forcible conversions to Islam, death, and torture.[43][full citation needed]
In Seringapatam, the young men who were forcibly circumcised were incorporated into the Ahmedy Corps, and they formed eight Risalas or regiments.[42] The actual number of Kodavas that were captured in the operation is unclear. The British administrator Mark Wilks gives it as 70,000, Historian Lewis Rice arrives at the figure of 85,000, while Mir Kirmani's score for the Coorg campaign is 80,000 men, women and child prisoners.[42] In a letter to Runmust Khan, Tipu himself stated We proceeded with the utmost speed, and, at once, made prisoners of 40,000 occasion-seeking and sedition-exciting Coorgis, who alarmed at the approach of our victorious army, had slunk into woods, and concealed themselves in lofty mountains, inaccessible even to birds. Then carrying them away from their native country (the native place of sedition) we raised them to the honour of Islam, and incorporated them into our Ahmedy corps.
10 years ago
chinmoymukherjee replied to the topic Saffronizing education .
If someone labors under his or her
misconception as to the true status
of a language and obstinately claims that
the loss of spoken status of it as
a measure of its importance in the
historical perspective to the point
of pooh-pooh it as an extinct language
,there is hardly anything left for
me to defend my stand!
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Nobel for Ramdev! .
I don't understand why anybody including Baba Ramdev should be running after any kind of awards knowing they are manipulated here and may be even abroad! It is a kind of ego trip for most people except a few genuine people who may get it without actually hankering after it or expecting it !
10 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic An easy way to avoid Obesity.
Mousumi Ghosh wrote:
Obesity can be controlled by keeping a check on our diet and by exercising regularly. If nothing else brisk walking helps, also I have seen drinking water helps to keep a check on weight. By drinking water half an hour before having any meal helps us to consume less, hence we should practice to have small portions of food at regular intervals.
I agree drinking water really helps especially for people like me who cannot resist food...I drink a glass of water before every meal which I am sure brings down the quantity I eat and of course brisk walking is another that helps in reducing your weight all round and keeping you trim.
10 years ago
vijay replied to the topic Happy Diwali to all in Advance.
HAPPY DIWALI AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO BODDUNAN MEMBERS AND ADMINISTRATORS.
10 years ago
