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anil replied to the topic Fabrication of evidence. .
rambabu wrote:
MG Singh wrote:I will take whatever Prashant Bhusan says with a pinch of salt. This is the same man who talked of atrocities of Indian army in Kashmir and advocated freedom. He was thrashed for this in his chamber. Even at that time Kejriwal distanced himself from Bhushan. Bhushan is the man who insisted on a midnight session of Supreme court for Afzal Guru hanging annulment.take what he says with a pinch of salt.
Persons like Prashant Bhusan are, without spine.
I know the full history of Prashant Bhushan . A person who demanded midnight session of the Supreme court for Afzal Guru hanging annulment is more dangerous than Afzal Guru. Though he was thrashed, Prashant did not learn the lesson. A shameless traitor. He is the one who actually needs whipping.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic some unusual law .
Jincy Aby wrote:
Flying kite is one of the interesting activities among children. Even small children can fly kite very easily. I don't understand why there is license for flying kite. Will they punish the little cute children whether they fly kite for enjoyment? Really a funny law.
This law is much old, i think it is enforced by British. It is dead law.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
It's true bureaucrats should be tried too for following illegal orders. They should have the guts to protest but the point is they fear for their lives as well as of their dear ones. They loose trust and so they fail to understand whose door to knock for justice. They actually become the puppets and when the head is the culprit then they loose confidence and strength to garner courage to oppose the system.
Bureaucrats are helpless to obey illegal orders of politicians. Bureaucrats are also human beings and have their families. You may know about IAS Khemka of Haryana, how he was torcher by politicians. Average transfer after six months!
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Jincy Aby wrote:
I cannot recognize Muslim religions and their wrong rules and customs. This is the religion which lead the people to do mistakes. Their movement is beyond the border. How can a father think about sexual relationship with his daughter? A revolution is must to stop these kinds of evil practices from the society. Poor Muslim girls...
Yes very true. There is a need of revolution. I thinl its not religion, its we human who are trying to impose there values or thoughts on others in the name of religion. No religion spreads bad values, we spread them under the name of religion. We must change the society through revolution..
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
Asking for dowry is a crime but it is still prevalent in our society. The girl's side must not give dowry in any circumstance because the men who accept dowry in marriage are not worthy to get married. Now, comes the question of alimony, regarding it I will second @usha manohar's opinion but with a minor twist. I would prefer ladies not to accept alimony from their husband with whom their relationship has gone sour and by doing so their self respect will rise. Yes, there are some circumstances when the divorced ladies are left with no choice and are willingly/unwillingly have to accept alimony. On the other hand I am against those ladies who file false cases to harass the husband and the in-laws. They in no way deserve alimony but if their is a child in between then certainly the man as a father has a responsibility towards his child so for his/her sake one must take care of the child's need such as education and all other requirements.
Like I said before it is not at all an easy matter to get alimony because family courts deliberate and after a lot of considerations think of granting alimony, so there is no question of any false case being encouraged by the court , which is as it is , is prejudiced against women !
Decision on alimony takes years, for some false case how can some one denied for right of deserving one. Misuse of any law is possible but for it law can not be abolished .
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
It's true bureaucrats should be tried too for following illegal orders. They should have the guts to protest but the point is they fear for their lives as well as of their dear ones. They loose trust and so they fail to understand whose door to knock for justice. They actually become the puppets and when the head is the culprit then they loose confidence and strength to garner courage to oppose the system.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
MG Singh wrote:
anil wrote:
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
There is no doubt of the bravery of Indian forces. In fact during British rule Indian army was finest fighting machine in Asia. Unfortunately Nehru and Congress never gave it priority, it deserved.
Yes you are right I read one Biography of Nehru ji, indeed he had wrong perception that no one attack of India and he was also wants to establish himself and International leader, so he spend most of his time on this agenda.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
Yes it is still not 100% ...My sister who is a gynecologist goes to villages with their mobile unit and there have been times when they have been threatened and abused by muslim men because their wives were advised on family planning by the doctors..They had to lodge a police complaint once because these men would not let them work in the village which comprises of all religious groups ..
India is big country and 100% is not possible. Hindus are serious about size of family even in rural area. They understand that more children, more pieces of their lands. Gradully Muslim will also understand this fact that small family in favor of them and their children.
9 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
9 years ago
MG Singh replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
anil wrote:
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
There is no doubt of the bravery of Indian forces. In fact during British rule Indian army was finest fighting machine in Asia. Unfortunately Nehru and Congress never gave it priority, it deserved.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
So in effect when it is Congress it is the bureaucrats fault for changing color but BJP is the one to blame in other cases..Having seen the number of top officers murdered presumably by the mafia , with some active help from the top politicians of the day during UPA 1 and 2 period, will any officer have guts to face such a scenario?
9 years ago
Bajirao liked the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Is father's lust towards his daughter justified? Answer should be naturally in the negative. But answer by religious authority could differ. See here how this is justified by religious authority in a Fatawa. .
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2016/02/25/new-islamic-fatwa-a-fathers-lust-for-his-daughter-is-not-a-sin-if-the-daughter-is-over-9-years-old/
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
Asking for dowry is a crime but it is still prevalent in our society. The girl's side must not give dowry in any circumstance because the men who accept dowry in marriage are not worthy to get married. Now, comes the question of alimony, regarding it I will second @usha manohar's opinion but with a minor twist. I would prefer ladies not to accept alimony from their husband with whom their relationship has gone sour and by doing so their self respect will rise. Yes, there are some circumstances when the divorced ladies are left with no choice and are willingly/unwillingly have to accept alimony. On the other hand I am against those ladies who file false cases to harass the husband and the in-laws. They in no way deserve alimony but if their is a child in between then certainly the man as a father has a responsibility towards his child so for his/her sake one must take care of the child's need such as education and all other requirements.
Like I said before it is not at all an easy matter to get alimony because family courts deliberate and after a lot of considerations think of granting alimony, so there is no question of any false case being encouraged by the court , which is as it is , is prejudiced against women !
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
I think dowry and alimony are two different aspects hence comparison is not possible. Dowry is become a tradition, and only bride has to pay the dowry, regardless of being rich or poor. Alimony is paid be either spouse (can be husband or wife) who ever earns more. Alimony is paid to support the spouse life after seperation.
For so many years, Dowry tradition has been going on, where girls family has to pay huge amount to the grooms family, then why not alimony? Why can't rich husband pay off the amount to his poor wife ? Time is changing, so accept it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
I guess it is better you get the exact definition of alimony and understand it before making that comment
Alimony is not dowry, it is amount to start a new life by widow and her children. Indian law also favor it. In some cases where husband is not able to earn his livehood and wife had earning court decided case is favor of husband and order to pay alimony to husband.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Fabrication of evidence. .
rambabu wrote:
MG Singh wrote:I will take whatever Prashant Bhusan says with a pinch of salt. This is the same man who talked of atrocities of Indian army in Kashmir and advocated freedom. He was thrashed for this in his chamber. Even at that time Kejriwal distanced himself from Bhushan. Bhushan is the man who insisted on a midnight session of Supreme court for Afzal Guru hanging annulment.take what he says with a pinch of salt.
Persons like Prashant Bhusan are, without spine.
I know the full history of Prashant Bhushan . A person who demanded midnight session of the Supreme court for Afzal Guru hanging annulment is more dangerous than Afzal Guru. Though he was thrashed, Prashant did not learn the lesson. A shameless traitor. He is the one who actually needs whipping.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic some unusual law .
Jincy Aby wrote:
Flying kite is one of the interesting activities among children. Even small children can fly kite very easily. I don't understand why there is license for flying kite. Will they punish the little cute children whether they fly kite for enjoyment? Really a funny law.
This law is much old, i think it is enforced by British. It is dead law.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
It's true bureaucrats should be tried too for following illegal orders. They should have the guts to protest but the point is they fear for their lives as well as of their dear ones. They loose trust and so they fail to understand whose door to knock for justice. They actually become the puppets and when the head is the culprit then they loose confidence and strength to garner courage to oppose the system.
Bureaucrats are helpless to obey illegal orders of politicians. Bureaucrats are also human beings and have their families. You may know about IAS Khemka of Haryana, how he was torcher by politicians. Average transfer after six months!
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Jincy Aby wrote:
I cannot recognize Muslim religions and their wrong rules and customs. This is the religion which lead the people to do mistakes. Their movement is beyond the border. How can a father think about sexual relationship with his daughter? A revolution is must to stop these kinds of evil practices from the society. Poor Muslim girls...
Yes very true. There is a need of revolution. I thinl its not religion, its we human who are trying to impose there values or thoughts on others in the name of religion. No religion spreads bad values, we spread them under the name of religion. We must change the society through revolution..
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
Asking for dowry is a crime but it is still prevalent in our society. The girl's side must not give dowry in any circumstance because the men who accept dowry in marriage are not worthy to get married. Now, comes the question of alimony, regarding it I will second @usha manohar's opinion but with a minor twist. I would prefer ladies not to accept alimony from their husband with whom their relationship has gone sour and by doing so their self respect will rise. Yes, there are some circumstances when the divorced ladies are left with no choice and are willingly/unwillingly have to accept alimony. On the other hand I am against those ladies who file false cases to harass the husband and the in-laws. They in no way deserve alimony but if their is a child in between then certainly the man as a father has a responsibility towards his child so for his/her sake one must take care of the child's need such as education and all other requirements.
Like I said before it is not at all an easy matter to get alimony because family courts deliberate and after a lot of considerations think of granting alimony, so there is no question of any false case being encouraged by the court , which is as it is , is prejudiced against women !
Decision on alimony takes years, for some false case how can some one denied for right of deserving one. Misuse of any law is possible but for it law can not be abolished .
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
Shampa Sadhya replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
It's true bureaucrats should be tried too for following illegal orders. They should have the guts to protest but the point is they fear for their lives as well as of their dear ones. They loose trust and so they fail to understand whose door to knock for justice. They actually become the puppets and when the head is the culprit then they loose confidence and strength to garner courage to oppose the system.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
MG Singh wrote:
anil wrote:
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
There is no doubt of the bravery of Indian forces. In fact during British rule Indian army was finest fighting machine in Asia. Unfortunately Nehru and Congress never gave it priority, it deserved.
Yes you are right I read one Biography of Nehru ji, indeed he had wrong perception that no one attack of India and he was also wants to establish himself and International leader, so he spend most of his time on this agenda.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic India finally coming to terms with its population...
usha manohar wrote:
Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
usha manohar wrote:
I agree that population control should be done consistently regardless of religion, only then can it be effective... Christian families too tended to be very large although , now they are aware of the practical difficulties of having too many children and have consciously been bringing down the size of their families which is a good size...The educated muslims too have realised the advantage small family gives them but it is a different matter in villages and in uneducated families
True Usha, more and more educated families now realize the importance of having less children and are doing so of their own will, but still even in cities there are many families who are educated but still refuse to adopt control measures. I closely now a family where he daughter's first born son was diagnosed with a congenital heart valve, instead of focusing on his treatment, her in-laws forced her to have two more sons, in addition to first 2 sons and a daughter, and now with 5 children, he has been sent back to her parents. Her father is a retired engineer from MES and all these people are well educated. But her in-laws won't accept her back saying she has a curse on her head just because of the first born son's condition. Not to mention, the family is Muslim!
Yes it is still not 100% ...My sister who is a gynecologist goes to villages with their mobile unit and there have been times when they have been threatened and abused by muslim men because their wives were advised on family planning by the doctors..They had to lodge a police complaint once because these men would not let them work in the village which comprises of all religious groups ..
India is big country and 100% is not possible. Hindus are serious about size of family even in rural area. They understand that more children, more pieces of their lands. Gradully Muslim will also understand this fact that small family in favor of them and their children.
9 years ago
rambabu liked a reply to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
9 years ago
MG Singh replied to the topic Indian Air Force is not at full strength and this is a grave handicap when facing China/.
anil wrote:
MG all you write here is right not only Airforce Navy and Army are also much behind from China. for it our system is responsible. China is bigger economy than India because have not democracy like India. It is latest example that how Jat agitation Paralayis whole north India. But remember on thing that armature is must to face war but, war is always fight with jeal and bravery of forces. Indian forces proved it many times.
There is no doubt of the bravery of Indian forces. In fact during British rule Indian army was finest fighting machine in Asia. Unfortunately Nehru and Congress never gave it priority, it deserved.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar liked a reply to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dirty politics and vendetta by the grand old party !.
So in effect when it is Congress it is the bureaucrats fault for changing color but BJP is the one to blame in other cases..Having seen the number of top officers murdered presumably by the mafia , with some active help from the top politicians of the day during UPA 1 and 2 period, will any officer have guts to face such a scenario?
9 years ago
Bajirao liked the topic How funny can a religion be. .
Is father's lust towards his daughter justified? Answer should be naturally in the negative. But answer by religious authority could differ. See here how this is justified by religious authority in a Fatawa. .
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2016/02/25/new-islamic-fatwa-a-fathers-lust-for-his-daughter-is-not-a-sin-if-the-daughter-is-over-9-years-old/
9 years ago
usha manohar replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
Shampa Sadhya wrote:
Asking for dowry is a crime but it is still prevalent in our society. The girl's side must not give dowry in any circumstance because the men who accept dowry in marriage are not worthy to get married. Now, comes the question of alimony, regarding it I will second @usha manohar's opinion but with a minor twist. I would prefer ladies not to accept alimony from their husband with whom their relationship has gone sour and by doing so their self respect will rise. Yes, there are some circumstances when the divorced ladies are left with no choice and are willingly/unwillingly have to accept alimony. On the other hand I am against those ladies who file false cases to harass the husband and the in-laws. They in no way deserve alimony but if their is a child in between then certainly the man as a father has a responsibility towards his child so for his/her sake one must take care of the child's need such as education and all other requirements.
Like I said before it is not at all an easy matter to get alimony because family courts deliberate and after a lot of considerations think of granting alimony, so there is no question of any false case being encouraged by the court , which is as it is , is prejudiced against women !
9 years ago
Bajirao replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
I think dowry and alimony are two different aspects hence comparison is not possible. Dowry is become a tradition, and only bride has to pay the dowry, regardless of being rich or poor. Alimony is paid be either spouse (can be husband or wife) who ever earns more. Alimony is paid to support the spouse life after seperation.
For so many years, Dowry tradition has been going on, where girls family has to pay huge amount to the grooms family, then why not alimony? Why can't rich husband pay off the amount to his poor wife ? Time is changing, so accept it.
9 years ago
anil replied to the topic Dowry and alimony.
usha manohar wrote:
Babu saroj wrote:
Well i think if dowry is a crime then in same manner alimony is also a crime. Because if we look deep in this matter then we will find that both are done for money.
I guess it is better you get the exact definition of alimony and understand it before making that comment
Alimony is not dowry, it is amount to start a new life by widow and her children. Indian law also favor it. In some cases where husband is not able to earn his livehood and wife had earning court decided case is favor of husband and order to pay alimony to husband.
9 years ago